Micro 4/3rds vs. Full Frame

3D Gunner wrote:

c h u n k wrote:

And also, I dont know why you need to keep repeating "nothing special about ff" as if Im a ff purist.

That explains why you are so obsessed with saying something wrong in principle.

FF cameras really offer exceptional picture quality, and over time, an entire accessory industry has developed around them. But that has nothing to do with the subject.

The 24x36mm format for cameras appeared more than 100 years ago, being derived from a video format, related to the mechanical and optical constraints of that time. It could have been any other dimension if it had been able to impose itself on the market.

24x36mm size means nothing relative to the magnification ratio, by definition.

The specialized industry invests a lot in FF equipment, and the results are exceptional. So it's great to be a FF purist.

By the way, I made the first images under a microscope using a Nikon film camera (so, FF) in 1987, using a special adapter made by me personally with a lathe.

What is your point? Seriously. What do you think you are helping anyone with or teaching that they dont already know? When I 1st responded to you, I didnt notice the person had already replied to you, and he literally verified he meant exactly what I understood him as meaning.

Its like running around on the forums telling people they are wrong when they say ISO increases noise. That is technically correct. Raising iso does not cause an increase in noise. But virtually 100% of photographers learn ISO increases noise on digital cameras and early on its actually helpful for them to have that understanding because it is MUCH simpler than an accurate understanding and for practical use as a beginner, its entirely fine to think we should shoot lower ISOs to avoid unneeded noise. As we improve and maybe move in to niche corners within photography, more thorough understandings are necessary. Actual causes of noise are really only important to people who push edges like macro photographers, some wildlife photographers, definitely astro. But photogs seem like clowns and I dont think its helpful when they overcomplicate things for obvious beginners. I mean, OP asked how sensor size effects magnification and suggested smaller sensors provide more dof. I mean, we know where that idea comes from, and to what extent that understanding should be corrected at his early point in learning to **help him learn and make the right decisions when purchasing gear.

I guess the thing to ask yourself is if helping OP was your priority or if it was being a know-it-all...amongst at least a few people who could literally teach classes and advanced classes on the subject. Ho ahead. Click my link below. Look at my arthropod shots and tell me what you can teach me about magnification, lighting, color science, camera settings etc etc etc that could help me improve...because honestly, I dont know in what way you think your comments can be constructive. Really, I dont know why Im responding to you because nothing in your rant seems to come from a productive space - and I only participate in these forums to help others learn, and seek help from others who can teach me.