Samsung's Expert RAW, a game changer.

Droo said:

Can you share samples from all lenses?

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Drzewoid said:

Please share some samples. I've tried take photos using RAW Expert, but i had different feeling about quality. JPGs looks very bad for me and RAW files was strange - i couldn't get good results using this RAWs - maybe problem was RAW Expert, which is not good enhough for modern RAW files, who knos. Normal RAW files was much better, but only 12 megapixel - no acces to full resolution.

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Jostian said:

Drzewoid said:

Please share some samples. I've tried take photos using RAW Expert, but i had different feeling about quality. JPGs looks very bad for me and RAW files was strange - i couldn't get good results using this RAWs - maybe problem was RAW Expert, which is not good enhough for modern RAW files, who knos. Normal RAW files was much better, but only 12 megapixel - no acces to full resolution.

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yip after playing around I agree, the RAWs look good on the screen but when looking closer the fact that Samsung has dialed back the over-processing in the stock app a lot over the last year or so means that the differences are not as big as I thought.

And the RAWs look a bit smoothed from RAW expert, actually getting more texture from stock app. So yes a bit disappointed actually in RAW expert but am more impressed with the stock app SOOC photos which are the best I've seen from a Samsung.

Sorry all, false alarm about the 'wow' from the RAW expert app, but am happy that stock app is pretty decent, especially the 10x tele lense, wow, so much better than I was expecting. I will post some examples soon.

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Drzewoid said:

Jostian said:

Drzewoid said:

Please share some samples. I've tried take photos using RAW Expert, but i had different feeling about quality. JPGs looks very bad for me and RAW files was strange - i couldn't get good results using this RAWs - maybe problem was RAW Expert, which is not good enhough for modern RAW files, who knos. Normal RAW files was much better, but only 12 megapixel - no acces to full resolution.

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yip after playing around I agree, the RAWs look good on the screen but when looking closer the fact that Samsung has dialed back the over-processing in the stock app a lot over the last year or so means that the differences are not as big as I thought.

And the RAWs look a bit smoothed from RAW expert, actually getting more texture from stock app. So yes a bit disappointed actually in RAW expert but am more impressed with the stock app SOOC photos which are the best I've seen from a Samsung.

Sorry all, false alarm about the 'wow' from the RAW expert app, but am happy that stock app is pretty decent, especially the 10x tele lense, wow, so much better than I was expecting. I will post some examples soon.

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Can You share some samples from stock camera? Last time Samsung released camera update and i would like to see what changed until i had my unit? I had very first firmware few days after premiere, JPGs SOOC disappointed me It was Exynos, i heard this SOC is not good like Snapdragon.

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Jostian said:

Drzewoid said:

Jostian said:

Drzewoid said:

Please share some samples. I've tried take photos using RAW Expert, but i had different feeling about quality. JPGs looks very bad for me and RAW files was strange - i couldn't get good results using this RAWs - maybe problem was RAW Expert, which is not good enhough for modern RAW files, who knos. Normal RAW files was much better, but only 12 megapixel - no acces to full resolution.

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yip after playing around I agree, the RAWs look good on the screen but when looking closer the fact that Samsung has dialed back the over-processing in the stock app a lot over the last year or so means that the differences are not as big as I thought.

And the RAWs look a bit smoothed from RAW expert, actually getting more texture from stock app. So yes a bit disappointed actually in RAW expert but am more impressed with the stock app SOOC photos which are the best I've seen from a Samsung.

Sorry all, false alarm about the 'wow' from the RAW expert app, but am happy that stock app is pretty decent, especially the 10x tele lense, wow, so much better than I was expecting. I will post some examples soon.

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Can You share some samples from stock camera? Last time Samsung released camera update and i would like to see what changed until i had my unit? I had very first firmware few days after premiere, JPGs SOOC disappointed me It was Exynos, i heard this SOC is not good like Snapdragon.

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yip its weird, in some instances there is an obvious difference (like in lower light) the RAW expert jpg is way better than stock see below (main lens). RAW expert jpg at left, stock app at right 100% crop. Think as soon as the iso climbs the heavy processing kicks in. Will try the same outside and compare.



But in daylight the differences are less obvious, with the stock app doing very well. jpeg from RAW expert at left, stock SOOC in middle and RAW at right. Again main lens, 100% crop.

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Jostian said:

Just to compare, here's the 10x using stock app (left) and the jpeg from Expert RAW app, notable difference in this case with the Expert RAW jpg looking more natural, but again for 100% crop at 10x I'm impressed with the IQ. Now if Samsung could just remove the yellow color cast in Expert RAW shots...

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• JPEGs from ExpertRAW are so oversharpened that they are unuseable and hurt eyes. They really suck and should be avoided at all cost !
• DNGs from stock app are not very good and difficult to handle in PP
• JPEGs from stock app are very sharpened but not so agressively as those from ExpertRAW. There are however occasions where the heavy processing fails miserably with ugly artifacts.
• DNGs from ExpertRAW are quite oversharpened to my taste but they look quite good in my opinion.

_vlad said:

Jostian said:

Just to compare, here's the 10x using stock app (left) and the jpeg from Expert RAW app, notable difference in this case with the Expert RAW jpg looking more natural, but again for 100% crop at 10x I'm impressed with the IQ. Now if Samsung could just remove the yellow color cast in Expert RAW shots...

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Please post the same crop from both - IMO there are some areas which are better with OOC (lost tonality - depth of greens and yellows - seems to be oversaturated bit) .

And post pls the sample from main lens as this is (detail wise) mediocre to judge - at best. AFAIK - from what I have seen so far- expert RAW is excellent with colors and DR but not with details - maybe I am wrong.

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