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It's inaccurate when talking about camera sensor format, but not something I worry about. And cropping to something other than the full frame of your specific camera is an accurate description of what you are doing.

To me, it sounds like you are looking for something to feel bad about.
 
joslocum said:
Gourownway said:
Why do you care? Other people are entitled to express a view on a public or open forum. It’s not realistic to expect other people to change their behaviour in a way that improves how you feel about life.
The word crop is just part of the language that is used. I am sure some will use it in a loaded and egotistical way or to bait others who feel insecure about their gear. But, why would you want to empower their weaknesses by allowing puerile commentary to bother you?
just enjoy your gear and stop concerning yourself with the opinions of others.
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I haven't lost much sleep over it my DPR friend.

This is just a forum for discussion; it's not for arms and legs.

But I find it funny, everyone wants everything exactly the same way but when a new model of camera is released everyone can't wait to get their hands on it.
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I’m not sure about every one. I can say for me I never rush out and buy the latest model camera. It may be interesting to read about but it would not change my photography. I still use a 2011 body for some of my photography. I would be cautious about over generalising about others and what they might or might not do.
 
Gourownway said:
joslocum said:
Gourownway said:
Why do you care? Other people are entitled to express a view on a public or open forum. It’s not realistic to expect other people to change their behaviour in a way that improves how you feel about life.
The word crop is just part of the language that is used. I am sure some will use it in a loaded and egotistical way or to bait others who feel insecure about their gear. But, why would you want to empower their weaknesses by allowing puerile commentary to bother you?
just enjoy your gear and stop concerning yourself with the opinions of others.
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I haven't lost much sleep over it my DPR friend.

This is just a forum for discussion; it's not for arms and legs.

But I find it funny, everyone wants everything exactly the same way but when a new model of camera is released everyone can't wait to get their hands on it.
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I’m not sure about every one. I can say for me I never rush out and buy the latest model camera. It may be interesting to read about but it would not change my photography. I still use a 2011 body for some of my photography. I would be cautious about over generalising about others and what they might or might not do.
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I'm still using my 2010 Pentax K5 as a back up for my 2017 KP. I also have a 2018 K1ii and recently bought, I mean last week, a 2014 K3, which might knock the K5 off it's perch as back up? Despite their age, all four cameras are more than capable of producing fine images.
 
Glen Barrington said:
It's inaccurate when talking about camera sensor format, but not something I worry about. And cropping to something other than the full frame of your specific camera is an accurate description of what you are doing.
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It's a "standard" way of doing, not necessarily an "accurate" way of doing.

If you go from FF to Medium format what's that called? Still cropping?

Before you get all bent, I'm just kidding; I know what you meant.
Glen Barrington said:
To me, it sounds like you are looking for something to feel bad about.
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Sure, who isn't looking to do that...

Cheers!
 
Phil A Martin said:
Gourownway said:
joslocum said:
Gourownway said:
Why do you care? Other people are entitled to express a view on a public or open forum. It’s not realistic to expect other people to change their behaviour in a way that improves how you feel about life.
The word crop is just part of the language that is used. I am sure some will use it in a loaded and egotistical way or to bait others who feel insecure about their gear. But, why would you want to empower their weaknesses by allowing puerile commentary to bother you?
just enjoy your gear and stop concerning yourself with the opinions of others.
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I haven't lost much sleep over it my DPR friend.

This is just a forum for discussion; it's not for arms and legs.

But I find it funny, everyone wants everything exactly the same way but when a new model of camera is released everyone can't wait to get their hands on it.
Click to expand...
I’m not sure about every one. I can say for me I never rush out and buy the latest model camera. It may be interesting to read about but it would not change my photography. I still use a 2011 body for some of my photography. I would be cautious about over generalising about others and what they might or might not do.
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I'm still using my 2010 Pentax K5 as a back up for my 2017 KP. I also have a 2018 K1ii and recently bought, I mean last week, a 2014 K3, which might knock the K5 off it's perch as back up? Despite their age, all four cameras are more than capable of producing fine images.
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All nice cameras! And why not use older cameras that function well and delivers. I love the used market. It keeps my hobby affordable and no one has ever said that my photographs look like they were taken on an older camera.
 
Not to me, why would it? It's what I have used for years as my big camera, and call it that myself.
 
MUSTDOS said:
There used to be a story that the 35mm weren't intended to be originally used but it was designed accidentally for 35mm and they liked it.
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I think you misunderstood the story.

Oscar Barnack had built an instrument to take test shots of 35mm movie film. From that he developed a camera that used that film , turning the frame the other way so that it was twice the surface as the original movie frame.

That was deliberate not an accident.
 
Gourownway said:
Phil A Martin said:
Gourownway said:
joslocum said:
Gourownway said:
Why do you care? Other people are entitled to express a view on a public or open forum. It’s not realistic to expect other people to change their behaviour in a way that improves how you feel about life.
The word crop is just part of the language that is used. I am sure some will use it in a loaded and egotistical way or to bait others who feel insecure about their gear. But, why would you want to empower their weaknesses by allowing puerile commentary to bother you?
just enjoy your gear and stop concerning yourself with the opinions of others.
Click to expand...
I haven't lost much sleep over it my DPR friend.

This is just a forum for discussion; it's not for arms and legs.

But I find it funny, everyone wants everything exactly the same way but when a new model of camera is released everyone can't wait to get their hands on it.
Click to expand...
I’m not sure about every one. I can say for me I never rush out and buy the latest model camera. It may be interesting to read about but it would not change my photography. I still use a 2011 body for some of my photography. I would be cautious about over generalising about others and what they might or might not do.
Click to expand...
I'm still using my 2010 Pentax K5 as a back up for my 2017 KP. I also have a 2018 K1ii and recently bought, I mean last week, a 2014 K3, which might knock the K5 off it's perch as back up? Despite their age, all four cameras are more than capable of producing fine images.
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All nice cameras! And why not use older cameras that function well and delivers. I love the used market. It keeps my hobby affordable and no one has ever said that my photographs look like they were taken on an older camera.
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Cheers

Last year as we came out of lockdown, I documented several community events. My 16-50 on my KP for general shots and a 70mm ltd on my K5 for portraits. Both sets of images were fine.
 
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Gourownway said:
joslocum said:
Gourownway said:
Why do you care? Other people are entitled to express a view on a public or open forum. It’s not realistic to expect other people to change their behaviour in a way that improves how you feel about life.
The word crop is just part of the language that is used. I am sure some will use it in a loaded and egotistical way or to bait others who feel insecure about their gear. But, why would you want to empower their weaknesses by allowing puerile commentary to bother you?
just enjoy your gear and stop concerning yourself with the opinions of others.
Click to expand...
I haven't lost much sleep over it my DPR friend.

This is just a forum for discussion; it's not for arms and legs.

But I find it funny, everyone wants everything exactly the same way but when a new model of camera is released everyone can't wait to get their hands on it.
Click to expand...
I’m not sure about every one. I can say for me I never rush out and buy the latest model camera. It may be interesting to read about but it would not change my photography. I still use a 2011 body for some of my photography. I would be cautious about over generalising about others and what they might or might not do.
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I hear a lot of people talking that their main camera is over 10 years old. And nothing wrong with it but I'm wondering just how true it actually is. What percentage of members here do you think are using as their main camera one that is 10+ years old? Not just one they pull out once in a blue moon for fun. 10%, 20%, more?
 
David Pavlich said:
joslocum said:
David Pavlich said:
I happen to be wearing my 'Oh Crop' t-shirt today. ;-)

David
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What size is it? Small?
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Nope...XL. I cropped it down from XXL.

David
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I believe that Crop tee-shirts or a Crop Tops are mostly for women, but hey, whatever these days!

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joslocum said:
Gourownway said:
joslocum said:
Gourownway said:
Why do you care? Other people are entitled to express a view on a public or open forum. It’s not realistic to expect other people to change their behaviour in a way that improves how you feel about life.
The word crop is just part of the language that is used. I am sure some will use it in a loaded and egotistical way or to bait others who feel insecure about their gear. But, why would you want to empower their weaknesses by allowing puerile commentary to bother you?
just enjoy your gear and stop concerning yourself with the opinions of others.
Click to expand...
I haven't lost much sleep over it my DPR friend.

This is just a forum for discussion; it's not for arms and legs.

But I find it funny, everyone wants everything exactly the same way but when a new model of camera is released everyone can't wait to get their hands on it.
Click to expand...
I’m not sure about every one. I can say for me I never rush out and buy the latest model camera. It may be interesting to read about but it would not change my photography. I still use a 2011 body for some of my photography. I would be cautious about over generalising about others and what they might or might not do.
Click to expand...
I hear a lot of people talking that their main camera is over 10 years old. And nothing wrong with it but I'm wondering just how true it actually is. What percentage of members here do you think are using as their main camera one that is 10+ years old? Not just one they pull out once in a blue moon for fun. 10%, 20%, more?
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My primary studio camera is a Canon EOS 5Ds. This model was introduced about 7 years ago. I am quite happy with the studio performance of this camera, and I am in no hurry to replace it.
 
Michael Fryd said:
joslocum said:
Gourownway said:
joslocum said:
Gourownway said:
Why do you care? Other people are entitled to express a view on a public or open forum. It’s not realistic to expect other people to change their behaviour in a way that improves how you feel about life.
The word crop is just part of the language that is used. I am sure some will use it in a loaded and egotistical way or to bait others who feel insecure about their gear. But, why would you want to empower their weaknesses by allowing puerile commentary to bother you?
just enjoy your gear and stop concerning yourself with the opinions of others.
Click to expand...
I haven't lost much sleep over it my DPR friend.

This is just a forum for discussion; it's not for arms and legs.

But I find it funny, everyone wants everything exactly the same way but when a new model of camera is released everyone can't wait to get their hands on it.
Click to expand...
I’m not sure about every one. I can say for me I never rush out and buy the latest model camera. It may be interesting to read about but it would not change my photography. I still use a 2011 body for some of my photography. I would be cautious about over generalising about others and what they might or might not do.
Click to expand...
I hear a lot of people talking that their main camera is over 10 years old. And nothing wrong with it but I'm wondering just how true it actually is. What percentage of members here do you think are using as their main camera one that is 10+ years old? Not just one they pull out once in a blue moon for fun. 10%, 20%, more?
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My primary studio camera is a Canon EOS 5Ds. This model was introduced about 7 years ago. I am quite happy with the studio performance of this camera, and I am in no hurry to replace it.
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Great camera indeed. The latest and greatest isn't always better. As someone accurately pointed out (I think), the last 10 years have only been incremental with regard to improvements (enhancements) and maybe less so with improvements to photo image quality. Meaning, the menus may offer more features but the sensors, while now generally larger (more MP's) aren't producing significantly better images. This is just generally speaking of course.
 
AlbertTheLazy said:
joslocum said:
I hear it all the time here.

-Oh, you have a crop camera.

...or...

-Oh, I see you have a crop sensor, so that's why...

...or...

-Is this the original image or did you crop it?

...or...

-Should I crop it in camera or in post?
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You are mixing up two different things here, for a start.

Your first two examples refer to the size difference between (so-called) 'Full Frame' sensors and smaller ones.

The second two refer to actions that people have done at least since enlargers were invented.
AlbertTheLazy said:
Mostly you hear this from amateurs and pros who have full frame cameras, which they believe to have the largest sensor and is superior to anything smaller. Well, the medium format folks may disagree and Ansel Adams would have a good laugh as I believe his used to shoot in 8" x 10" format.
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The biggest 'sensor' (film) I ever used was 15x12 inches.
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No enlarger required. I've seen a picture of my great-grandfather with his family that appears to be taken on 10x8 film. There is a 2nd, smaller print that is a crop of father with youngest child on his lap.
 
joslocum said:
I hear it all the time here.

-Oh, you have a crop camera.

...or...

-Oh, I see you have a crop sensor, so that's why...

...or...

-Is this the original image or did you crop it?

...or...

-Should I crop it in camera or in post?

Mostly you hear this from amateurs and pros who have full frame cameras, which they believe to have the largest sensor and is superior to anything smaller. Well, the medium format folks may disagree and Ansel Adams would have a good laugh as I believe his used to shoot in 8" x 10" format.

If you own a medium format camera is a FF considered a crop camera?

Let's discuss.
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I have a Full Frame camera. I don't care what others think. I also have a Micro Four Thirds camera. I don't care what others think.
 
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