upgrade or downgrade 6500 to AR7ii

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I have had the sony 6300 then traded up for a 6500. Landscape and macro are really the only two subjects I focus on. Know with a trip planned for Scotland and the Isle of Skye I have uped it again to a A7Rii. The III was more $$ so I went with the ii. They say the battery is better put I have like 5 batteries that I had for my 6500. Plan on carrying two lenses. My 16mm sigma and my 24/70 zeiss.

Did I make a right choice on the camera??. I do not shoot videos.
 
I have had the sony 6300 then traded up for a 6500. Landscape and macro are really the only two subjects I focus on. Know with a trip planned for Scotland and the Isle of Skye I have uped it again to a A7Rii. The III was more $$ so I went with the ii. They say the battery is better put I have like 5 batteries that I had for my 6500. Plan on carrying two lenses. My 16mm sigma and my 24/70 zeiss.

Did I make a right choice on the camera??. I do not shoot videos.
I’ve never used the 6300 or 6500. However I have used the A7rII, and I currently own the a7rIII. The battery life is much better on the 3 vs 2, but with multiple batteries you’re going to be fine. The viewfinder is better in the 3, but it’s not worlds apart. Autofocus Is also improved, but for landscape I doubt you’re likely to notice. Macro is often shot in manual focus which is fine on both cameras. That’s the good news… the 24-70/4 on the other hand is a bit of a mixed bag. On the plus side the lens is light and stopped down to f8 the sharpness is mostly good… with weaker corners at the wide and long ends. Stopping down to f11 evens things up but drops the overall quality a little. This is probably a bit different with copy variation, but there’s fairly good consensus that this lens isn’t the best landscape lens for corner to corner sharpness on R series sensors. My dad owns a copy of the 24-70/4.

What is a good alternative lens will depend on budget (weight and $). Some possible ideas:

FE 28-60 - only 1 stop slower on the long end and far more even in output. Not as inexpensive as the FE 28-70. (I haven’t directly shot these lenses - I’m basing this on reviewers)

FE 28-70 - dismissed by many now that the 28-60 is here, this lens stopped down is much better than people give it credit for. Sweet spot is f5.6 - f8. (I own this lens and use it when I don’t want the extra bulk and weight of the 24-105)

FE 24-105 - really stellar travel lens, but bigger and heavier than some might want coming from APSC. It’s also not at all cheap. (I own this lens)

Sigma 28-70/2.8 & Tamron 28-75 G1/G2 - these are all excellent options, The Tamron offers much better magnification at the short end for pseudo macro shots with close subject placement. The G2 has improved several areas. (I haven’t directly shot these lenses - I’m basing this on reviewers).

Tamron 28-200/2.8-5.6 - surprisingly great travel lens with good landscape capability. Only above f4 from past 70mm - this lens is far more even and offers great flexibility at a rational price with reasonable size and weight. (I haven’t directly shot these lenses - I’m basing this on reviewers - if I didn’t own the 24-105 I would likely own this lens).

FE 28/2 - another maligned lens that is better than people give it credit for - at least if you stop down. F5.6-8 is the sweet spot. This is a light and small lens and certainly out performs the 24-70/4 at 28mm but isn’t nearly as flexible. However wide open this lens has very poor edge/corner performance. (I own this lens, and the two converter lenses for it).

Ultimately if the budget won’t budge and the gear you have is set in stone, so be it. You will get good images of you post attention and stop down to the sweet spot. Your copy may outperform reviewed copies and my dads copy. I suggest looking at the play memories apps the A7rII can use some may be very useful for landscape shots. The a7rIII and newer models can’t leverage those which is an advantage to the body you’re taking.

My advice if the budget allows is to think about swapping the 24-70 out if you try it and feel the edge sharpness isn’t sufficient. Honestly a lot depends on how the images will be used. For most purposes I’d be happy with the performance of the 24-70/4. Only for larger printed images and pixel peeping does the edge/corner performance become noticeable. Any artistic images made with the lens will still be lovely - warts and all.
 
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I have had the sony 6300 then traded up for a 6500. Landscape and macro are really the only two subjects I focus on. Know with a trip planned for Scotland and the Isle of Skye I have uped it again to a A7Rii. The III was more $$ so I went with the ii. They say the battery is better put I have like 5 batteries that I had for my 6500. Plan on carrying two lenses. My 16mm sigma and my 24/70 zeiss.

Did I make a right choice on the camera??. I do not shoot videos.
There is nothing wrong with A7RII, particularly for landscape and macro, where manual focus could be a priority.

I'm just surprised, that you have no macro lens. Also Sigma is apsc lens, so you should buy some 24mm prime as exchange, if you use such focal length often.
 
Sounds good to me I just picked up an a7riii for a trip to Ireland this summer- very similar to Scotland!
Lots of overcast and rain - ha but beautiful. Oh previously had a7ii not R but still loved it. I had a dummy battery hooked to belt power source so never ran out power.

I only have adapted 50mm at moment but will get a 24 or 35 prime for sure. The small downtown’s and cloudy skies did not do well when I had my 24-105mm f4 R lens a few years back - too large and not enough light.
 
I have had the sony 6300 then traded up for a 6500. Landscape and macro are really the only two subjects I focus on. Know with a trip planned for Scotland and the Isle of Skye I have uped it again to a A7Rii. The III was more $$ so I went with the ii. They say the battery is better put I have like 5 batteries that I had for my 6500. Plan on carrying two lenses. My 16mm sigma and my 24/70 zeiss.

Did I make a right choice on the camera??. I do not shoot videos.
There is nothing wrong with A7RII, particularly for landscape and macro, where manual focus could be a priority.

I'm just surprised, that you have no macro lens. Also Sigma is apsc lens, so you should buy some 24mm prime as exchange, if you use such focal length often.
 

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I have had the sony 6300 then traded up for a 6500. Landscape and macro are really the only two subjects I focus on. Know with a trip planned for Scotland and the Isle of Skye I have uped it again to a A7Rii. The III was more $$ so I went with the ii. They say the battery is better put I have like 5 batteries that I had for my 6500. Plan on carrying two lenses. My 16mm sigma and my 24/70 zeiss.

Did I make a right choice on the camera??. I do not shoot videos.
I’ve never used the 6300 or 6500. However I have used the A7rII, and I currently own the a7rIII. The battery life is much better on the 3 vs 2, but with multiple batteries you’re going to be fine. The viewfinder is better in the 3, but it’s not worlds apart. Autofocus Is also improved, but for landscape I doubt you’re likely to notice. Macro is often shot in manual focus which is fine on both cameras. That’s the good news… the 24-70/4 on the other hand is a bit of a mixed bag. On the plus side the lens is light and stopped down to f8 the sharpness is mostly good… with weaker corners at the wide and long ends. Stopping down to f11 evens things up but drops the overall quality a little. This is probably a bit different with copy variation, but there’s fairly good consensus that this lens isn’t the best landscape lens for corner to corner sharpness on R series sensors. My dad owns a copy of the 24-70/4.

What is a good alternative lens will depend on budget (weight and $). Some possible ideas:

FE 28-60 - only 1 stop slower on the long end and far more even in output. Not as inexpensive as the FE 28-70. (I haven’t directly shot these lenses - I’m basing this on reviewers)

FE 28-70 - dismissed by many now that the 28-60 is here, this lens stopped down is much better than people give it credit for. Sweet spot is f5.6 - f8. (I own this lens and use it when I don’t want the extra bulk and weight of the 24-105)

FE 24-105 - really stellar travel lens, but bigger and heavier than some might want coming from APSC. It’s also not at all cheap. (I own this lens)

Sigma 28-70/2.8 & Tamron 28-75 G1/G2 - these are all excellent options, The Tamron offers much better magnification at the short end for pseudo macro shots with close subject placement. The G2 has improved several areas. (I haven’t directly shot these lenses - I’m basing this on reviewers).

Tamron 28-200/2.8-5.6 - surprisingly great travel lens with good landscape capability. Only above f4 from past 70mm - this lens is far more even and offers great flexibility at a rational price with reasonable size and weight. (I haven’t directly shot these lenses - I’m basing this on reviewers - if I didn’t own the 24-105 I would likely own this lens).

FE 28/2 - another maligned lens that is better than people give it credit for - at least if you stop down. F5.6-8 is the sweet spot. This is a light and small lens and certainly out performs the 24-70/4 at 28mm but isn’t nearly as flexible. However wide open this lens has very poor edge/corner performance. (I own this lens, and the two converter lenses for it).

Ultimately if the budget won’t budge and the gear you have is set in stone, so be it. You will get good images of you post attention and stop down to the sweet spot. Your copy may outperform reviewed copies and my dads copy. I suggest looking at the play memories apps the A7rII can use some may be very useful for landscape shots. The a7rIII and newer models can’t leverage those which is an advantage to the body you’re taking.

My advice if the budget allows is to think about swapping the 24-70 out if you try it and feel the edge sharpness isn’t sufficient. Honestly a lot depends on how the images will be used. For most purposes I’d be happy with the performance of the 24-70/4. Only for larger printed images and pixel peeping does the edge/corner performance become noticeable. Any artistic images made with the lens will still be lovely - warts and all.
Thankyou for your tips, I may be using my sigma 16mm more than I may think
 
Thankyou for your tips, I may be using my sigma 16mm more than I may think
Given the ratings for the Sigma here:


I'd say in crop mode it will perform very well. But the 24-70/4 corners won't come into play if you crop to APSC... so outside of the "wide" shots. You may not have any problems at all with the output of the 24-70/4 if cropped 18mp shots are sufficient. Honestly, while I think stopped down results are a bit soft in the corners, that's not always an issue.

I suspect that with those two lenses you can make some great images and memories. Enjoy!
 
I have had the sony 6300 then traded up for a 6500. Landscape and macro are really the only two subjects I focus on. Know with a trip planned for Scotland and the Isle of Skye I have uped it again to a A7Rii. The III was more $$ so I went with the ii. They say the battery is better put I have like 5 batteries that I had for my 6500. Plan on carrying two lenses. My 16mm sigma and my 24/70 zeiss.

Did I make a right choice on the camera??. I do not shoot videos.
I’ve never used the 6300 or 6500. However I have used the A7rII, and I currently own the a7rIII. The battery life is much better on the 3 vs 2, but with multiple batteries you’re going to be fine. The viewfinder is better in the 3, but it’s not worlds apart. Autofocus Is also improved, but for landscape I doubt you’re likely to notice. Macro is often shot in manual focus which is fine on both cameras. That’s the good news… the 24-70/4 on the other hand is a bit of a mixed bag. On the plus side the lens is light and stopped down to f8 the sharpness is mostly good… with weaker corners at the wide and long ends. Stopping down to f11 evens things up but drops the overall quality a little. This is probably a bit different with copy variation, but there’s fairly good consensus that this lens isn’t the best landscape lens for corner to corner sharpness on R series sensors. My dad owns a copy of the 24-70/4.

What is a good alternative lens will depend on budget (weight and $). Some possible ideas:

FE 28-60 - only 1 stop slower on the long end and far more even in output. Not as inexpensive as the FE 28-70. (I haven’t directly shot these lenses - I’m basing this on reviewers)

FE 28-70 - dismissed by many now that the 28-60 is here, this lens stopped down is much better than people give it credit for. Sweet spot is f5.6 - f8. (I own this lens and use it when I don’t want the extra bulk and weight of the 24-105)

FE 24-105 - really stellar travel lens, but bigger and heavier than some might want coming from APSC. It’s also not at all cheap. (I own this lens)

Sigma 28-70/2.8 & Tamron 28-75 G1/G2 - these are all excellent options, The Tamron offers much better magnification at the short end for pseudo macro shots with close subject placement. The G2 has improved several areas. (I haven’t directly shot these lenses - I’m basing this on reviewers).

Tamron 28-200/2.8-5.6 - surprisingly great travel lens with good landscape capability. Only above f4 from past 70mm - this lens is far more even and offers great flexibility at a rational price with reasonable size and weight. (I haven’t directly shot these lenses - I’m basing this on reviewers - if I didn’t own the 24-105 I would likely own this lens).

FE 28/2 - another maligned lens that is better than people give it credit for - at least if you stop down. F5.6-8 is the sweet spot. This is a light and small lens and certainly out performs the 24-70/4 at 28mm but isn’t nearly as flexible. However wide open this lens has very poor edge/corner performance. (I own this lens, and the two converter lenses for it).

Ultimately if the budget won’t budge and the gear you have is set in stone, so be it. You will get good images of you post attention and stop down to the sweet spot. Your copy may outperform reviewed copies and my dads copy. I suggest looking at the play memories apps the A7rII can use some may be very useful for landscape shots. The a7rIII and newer models can’t leverage those which is an advantage to the body you’re taking.

My advice if the budget allows is to think about swapping the 24-70 out if you try it and feel the edge sharpness isn’t sufficient. Honestly a lot depends on how the images will be used. For most purposes I’d be happy with the performance of the 24-70/4. Only for larger printed images and pixel peeping does the edge/corner performance become noticeable. Any artistic images made with the lens will still be lovely - warts and all.
took your advice and am looking at the Tamron 28-200/2.8-5.6
 
I have had the sony 6300 then traded up for a 6500. Landscape and macro are really the only two subjects I focus on. Know with a trip planned for Scotland and the Isle of Skye I have uped it again to a A7Rii. The III was more $$ so I went with the ii. They say the battery is better put I have like 5 batteries that I had for my 6500. Plan on carrying two lenses. My 16mm sigma and my 24/70 zeiss.

Did I make a right choice on the camera??. I do not shoot videos.
The A7Rii is still an outstanding camera. It's perfect for landscape and macro. Unless you're going to be doing extensive timelapses, the batteries are not likely to be much of an issue . Yes the newer style battery lasts longer, but the older style battery is smaller, cheaper and charges faster. I only had the two batteries that came with my A7Rii and never used the second, even on two day trips. The bigger batteries are really significant for event photographers who will take thousands of photos at a go, timelapse photography, or for much colder environments (Scotland in the spring/summer doesn't count ;)).

Have a great trip :)
 
I have had the sony 6300 then traded up for a 6500. Landscape and macro are really the only two subjects I focus on. Know with a trip planned for Scotland and the Isle of Skye I have uped it again to a A7Rii. The III was more $$ so I went with the ii. They say the battery is better put I have like 5 batteries that I had for my 6500. Plan on carrying two lenses. My 16mm sigma and my 24/70 zeiss.

Did I make a right choice on the camera??. I do not shoot videos.
I’ve never used the 6300 or 6500. However I have used the A7rII, and I currently own the a7rIII. The battery life is much better on the 3 vs 2, but with multiple batteries you’re going to be fine. The viewfinder is better in the 3, but it’s not worlds apart. Autofocus Is also improved, but for landscape I doubt you’re likely to notice. Macro is often shot in manual focus which is fine on both cameras. That’s the good news… the 24-70/4 on the other hand is a bit of a mixed bag. On the plus side the lens is light and stopped down to f8 the sharpness is mostly good… with weaker corners at the wide and long ends. Stopping down to f11 evens things up but drops the overall quality a little. This is probably a bit different with copy variation, but there’s fairly good consensus that this lens isn’t the best landscape lens for corner to corner sharpness on R series sensors. My dad owns a copy of the 24-70/4.

What is a good alternative lens will depend on budget (weight and $). Some possible ideas:

FE 28-60 - only 1 stop slower on the long end and far more even in output. Not as inexpensive as the FE 28-70. (I haven’t directly shot these lenses - I’m basing this on reviewers)

FE 28-70 - dismissed by many now that the 28-60 is here, this lens stopped down is much better than people give it credit for. Sweet spot is f5.6 - f8. (I own this lens and use it when I don’t want the extra bulk and weight of the 24-105)

FE 24-105 - really stellar travel lens, but bigger and heavier than some might want coming from APSC. It’s also not at all cheap. (I own this lens)

Sigma 28-70/2.8 & Tamron 28-75 G1/G2 - these are all excellent options, The Tamron offers much better magnification at the short end for pseudo macro shots with close subject placement. The G2 has improved several areas. (I haven’t directly shot these lenses - I’m basing this on reviewers).

Tamron 28-200/2.8-5.6 - surprisingly great travel lens with good landscape capability. Only above f4 from past 70mm - this lens is far more even and offers great flexibility at a rational price with reasonable size and weight. (I haven’t directly shot these lenses - I’m basing this on reviewers - if I didn’t own the 24-105 I would likely own this lens).

FE 28/2 - another maligned lens that is better than people give it credit for - at least if you stop down. F5.6-8 is the sweet spot. This is a light and small lens and certainly out performs the 24-70/4 at 28mm but isn’t nearly as flexible. However wide open this lens has very poor edge/corner performance. (I own this lens, and the two converter lenses for it).

Ultimately if the budget won’t budge and the gear you have is set in stone, so be it. You will get good images of you post attention and stop down to the sweet spot. Your copy may outperform reviewed copies and my dads copy. I suggest looking at the play memories apps the A7rII can use some may be very useful for landscape shots. The a7rIII and newer models can’t leverage those which is an advantage to the body you’re taking.

My advice if the budget allows is to think about swapping the 24-70 out if you try it and feel the edge sharpness isn’t sufficient. Honestly a lot depends on how the images will be used. For most purposes I’d be happy with the performance of the 24-70/4. Only for larger printed images and pixel peeping does the edge/corner performance become noticeable. Any artistic images made with the lens will still be lovely - warts and all.
took your advice and am looking at the Tamron 28-200/2.8-5.6
Then I hope to hear wonderful things about how this works out! I’m very excited for you. It should be a great trip.
 
I have had the sony 6300 then traded up for a 6500. Landscape and macro are really the only two subjects I focus on. Know with a trip planned for Scotland and the Isle of Skye I have uped it again to a A7Rii. The III was more $$ so I went with the ii. They say the battery is better put I have like 5 batteries that I had for my 6500. Plan on carrying two lenses. My 16mm sigma and my 24/70 zeiss.

Did I make a right choice on the camera??. I do not shoot videos.
The A7Rii is still an outstanding camera. It's perfect for landscape and macro. Unless you're going to be doing extensive timelapses, the batteries are not likely to be much of an issue . Yes the newer style battery lasts longer, but the older style battery is smaller, cheaper and charges faster. I only had the two batteries that came with my A7Rii and never used the second, even on two day trips. The bigger batteries are really significant for event photographers who will take thousands of photos at a go, timelapse photography, or for much colder environments (Scotland in the spring/summer doesn't count ;)).

Have a great trip :)
also for Timelapse I think you can power the camera using either a dummy battery or if heat is a non-issue simply plug in a usb power pack to keep the battery charged.
 
Now the wife is complaining that I want to take this camera to take pictures over there. She said stick to my phone !!!!. I can see her point but can see my point also.
 
The A7r2 sensor is still second to none. If landscapes and macro are your only (or main) applications, then this would be a significant upgrade. Needs good lenses too - but unlike camera bodies, the lenses will keep their value. You may want to consider MF lenses, like Loxia or Voigtlander Apo.

If you can swing it, get the A7r3 - more pleasant to use than r2.... but in terms of image quality, they are identical.
 
I have had the sony 6300 then traded up for a 6500. Landscape and macro are really the only two subjects I focus on. Know with a trip planned for Scotland and the Isle of Skye I have uped it again to a A7Rii. The III was more $$ so I went with the ii. They say the battery is better put I have like 5 batteries that I had for my 6500. Plan on carrying two lenses. My 16mm sigma and my 24/70 zeiss.

Did I make a right choice on the camera??. I do not shoot videos.
I’ve never used the 6300 or 6500. However I have used the A7rII, and I currently own the a7rIII. The battery life is much better on the 3 vs 2, but with multiple batteries you’re going to be fine. The viewfinder is better in the 3, but it’s not worlds apart. Autofocus Is also improved, but for landscape I doubt you’re likely to notice. Macro is often shot in manual focus which is fine on both cameras. That’s the good news… the 24-70/4 on the other hand is a bit of a mixed bag. On the plus side the lens is light and stopped down to f8 the sharpness is mostly good… with weaker corners at the wide and long ends. Stopping down to f11 evens things up but drops the overall quality a little. This is probably a bit different with copy variation, but there’s fairly good consensus that this lens isn’t the best landscape lens for corner to corner sharpness on R series sensors. My dad owns a copy of the 24-70/4.

What is a good alternative lens will depend on budget (weight and $). Some possible ideas:

FE 28-60 - only 1 stop slower on the long end and far more even in output. Not as inexpensive as the FE 28-70. (I haven’t directly shot these lenses - I’m basing this on reviewers)

FE 28-70 - dismissed by many now that the 28-60 is here, this lens stopped down is much better than people give it credit for. Sweet spot is f5.6 - f8. (I own this lens and use it when I don’t want the extra bulk and weight of the 24-105)

FE 24-105 - really stellar travel lens, but bigger and heavier than some might want coming from APSC. It’s also not at all cheap. (I own this lens)

Sigma 28-70/2.8 & Tamron 28-75 G1/G2 - these are all excellent options, The Tamron offers much better magnification at the short end for pseudo macro shots with close subject placement. The G2 has improved several areas. (I haven’t directly shot these lenses - I’m basing this on reviewers).

Tamron 28-200/2.8-5.6 - surprisingly great travel lens with good landscape capability. Only above f4 from past 70mm - this lens is far more even and offers great flexibility at a rational price with reasonable size and weight. (I haven’t directly shot these lenses - I’m basing this on reviewers - if I didn’t own the 24-105 I would likely own this lens).

FE 28/2 - another maligned lens that is better than people give it credit for - at least if you stop down. F5.6-8 is the sweet spot. This is a light and small lens and certainly out performs the 24-70/4 at 28mm but isn’t nearly as flexible. However wide open this lens has very poor edge/corner performance. (I own this lens, and the two converter lenses for it).

Ultimately if the budget won’t budge and the gear you have is set in stone, so be it. You will get good images of you post attention and stop down to the sweet spot. Your copy may outperform reviewed copies and my dads copy. I suggest looking at the play memories apps the A7rII can use some may be very useful for landscape shots. The a7rIII and newer models can’t leverage those which is an advantage to the body you’re taking.

My advice if the budget allows is to think about swapping the 24-70 out if you try it and feel the edge sharpness isn’t sufficient. Honestly a lot depends on how the images will be used. For most purposes I’d be happy with the performance of the 24-70/4. Only for larger printed images and pixel peeping does the edge/corner performance become noticeable. Any artistic images made with the lens will still be lovely - warts and all.
took your advice and am looking at the Tamron 28-200/2.8-5.6
The latest Tamrons are very nice indeed. I don't know about the 28-200. How often do you need the tele range? I took the Tamron 28-75 on a trip to India (pre Covid) and except for the occasional landscape shot, which I used the Loxia 21 for, it was all I needed.

Constant f2.8 aperture is nice to have! A7r2 camera has enough pixels, that you can crop into quite a bit, so it makes up a bit for the lack of tele range.

Good luck!
 
Now the wife is complaining that I want to take this camera to take pictures over there. She said stick to my phone !!!!. I can see her point but can see my point also.
If the trip involves other people you have to take that into account. A compromise might be something like the existing apsc body with a do everything zoom - or even the RX100. I took the RX100IV to England and France in 2016 and have no regrets. The trip was more urban and I had a group of six including an elderly father in law, a mentally challenged brother in law, a teenager, and a preteen, as well as my wife and myself. The limitations and logistics of trying to herd this group made a small capable camera my only rational option.



My suggestion is that whatever you take is something simple that you know well enough to operate quickly and with minimal impact to the non photography aspects of the trip. Otherwise your wife may come home a widow!
 
The A7r2 sensor is still second to none. If landscapes and macro are your only (or main) applications, then this would be a significant upgrade. Needs good lenses too - but unlike camera bodies, the lenses will keep their value. You may want to consider MF lenses, like Loxia or Voigtlander Apo.

If you can swing it, get the A7r3 - more pleasant to use than r2.... but in terms of image quality, they are identical.
One point going for the A7R2 for a trip is that it's smaller and lighter, as well as being cheaper.

If budget isn't a problem then going for the A7r3/A7r4 are better overall cameras, of course :)
 
Now the wife is complaining that I want to take this camera to take pictures over there. She said stick to my phone !!!!. I can see her point but can see my point also.
If the trip involves other people you have to take that into account. A compromise might be something like the existing apsc body with a do everything zoom - or even the RX100. I took the RX100IV to England and France in 2016 and have no regrets. The trip was more urban and I had a group of six including an elderly father in law, a mentally challenged brother in law, a teenager, and a preteen, as well as my wife and myself. The limitations and logistics of trying to herd this group made a small capable camera my only rational option.

My suggestion is that whatever you take is something simple that you know well enough to operate quickly and with minimal impact to the non photography aspects of the trip. Otherwise your wife may come home a widow!
Yes I have thought about a small point and shoot such as what you metioned. Looking at specs of some,,,gone are the days with small sensors,small MP, etc... hmmmmm..
 
Now the wife is complaining that I want to take this camera to take pictures over there. She said stick to my phone !!!!. I can see her point but can see my point also.
If the trip involves other people you have to take that into account. A compromise might be something like the existing apsc body with a do everything zoom - or even the RX100. I took the RX100IV to England and France in 2016 and have no regrets. The trip was more urban and I had a group of six including an elderly father in law, a mentally challenged brother in law, a teenager, and a preteen, as well as my wife and myself. The limitations and logistics of trying to herd this group made a small capable camera my only rational option.

My suggestion is that whatever you take is something simple that you know well enough to operate quickly and with minimal impact to the non photography aspects of the trip. Otherwise your wife may come home a widow!
Yes I have thought about a small point and shoot such as what you metioned. Looking at specs of some,,,gone are the days with small sensors,small MP, etc... hmmmmm..
I misspoke. I took my Panasonic LX-7 on that trip. It’s a smaller sensor and smaller resolution. It was still very useful. I have used the RX100IV since on a number of trips. I have printed 13x19 images from the camera that don’t embarrass me.
 
I would keep the 6500 to match with telephotos or use when I want a smaller camera and keep a wide to normal lens on the AR7ii.
 

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