New Gen 12 Dell XPS Laptops

BillyBobSenna · Apr 1, 2022

So, the XPS 15 and 17 gen 12's have been announced. They currently have the option of an RTX 3050. Next month, they will also offer an RTX 3060. For Adobe and Topaz photo editing, how big of a difference do you think this would be?

How about video editing?

Gary Coombs · Apr 1, 2022

BillyBobSenna said:
So, the XPS 15 and 17 gen 12's have been announced. They currently have the option of an RTX 3050. Next month, they will also offer an RTX 3060. For Adobe and Topaz photo editing, how big of a difference do you think this would be?

How about video editing?

I have an XPS 15 9510,
11th Gen i9,
RTX 3050Ti,
32GB RAM,
1TB SSD.

The difference in speed between 11th Gen i9 and 12th Gen i9 is 9.3%. I'm just an amateur photographer using Adobe Lightroom/Photoshop subscription. I'll never notice a 9.3 % difference in speed.

BillyBobSenna · Apr 1, 2022

Gary Coombs said:
BillyBobSenna said:

So, the XPS 15 and 17 gen 12's have been announced. They currently have the option of an RTX 3050. Next month, they will also offer an RTX 3060. For Adobe and Topaz photo editing, how big of a difference do you think this would be?

How about video editing?

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I have an XPS 15 9510,
11th Gen i9,
RTX 3050Ti,
32GB RAM,
1TB SSD.

The difference in speed between 11th Gen i9 and 12th Gen i9 is 9.3%. I'm just an amateur photographer using Adobe Lightroom/Photoshop subscription. I'll never notice a 9.3 % difference in speed.

CAcreeks · Apr 1, 2022

BillyBobSenna said:
So, the XPS 15 and 17 gen 12's have been announced. They currently have the option of an RTX 3050. Next month, they will also offer an RTX 3060. For Adobe and Topaz photo editing, how big of a difference do you think this would be?

How about video editing?

The 3060 laptop GPU is 39.8% faster (3Dmark) than the 3050 laptop GPU. Significant, I'd say.

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BillyBobSenna · Apr 1, 2022

CAcreeks said:
BillyBobSenna said:

So, the XPS 15 and 17 gen 12's have been announced. They currently have the option of an RTX 3050. Next month, they will also offer an RTX 3060. For Adobe and Topaz photo editing, how big of a difference do you think this would be?

How about video editing?

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The 3060 laptop GPU is 39.8% faster (3Dmark) than the 3050 laptop GPU. Significant, I'd say.

https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

Thanks, I’m going to wait for the 3060 to be released. That is huge.

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BobKnDP · Apr 1, 2022

BillyBobSenna said:
CAcreeks said:

BillyBobSenna said:

So, the XPS 15 and 17 gen 12's have been announced. They currently have the option of an RTX 3050. Next month, they will also offer an RTX 3060. For Adobe and Topaz photo editing, how big of a difference do you think this would be?

How about video editing?

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The 3060 laptop GPU is 39.8% faster (3Dmark) than the 3050 laptop GPU. Significant, I'd say.

https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

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Thanks, I’m going to wait for the 3060 to be released. That is huge.

How well a gaming benchmark translates to GPU acceleration, I have no idea. Maybe you won't get 40%. Perhaps you would.

Henry Richardson · Apr 1, 2022

BillyBobSenna said:
So, the XPS 15 and 17 gen 12's have been announced. They currently have the option of an RTX 3050. Next month, they will also offer an RTX 3060. For Adobe and Topaz photo editing, how big of a difference do you think this would be?

How about video editing?

Yes, I have been wondering exactly the same thing.

Tom Ames · Apr 2, 2022

BillyBobSenna said:
So, the XPS 15 and 17 gen 12's have been announced. They currently have the option of an RTX 3050. Next month, they will also offer an RTX 3060. For Adobe and Topaz photo editing, how big of a difference do you think this would be?

How about video editing?

I'm mainly doing photoediting, but probably some video too in the future. I ordered the new XPS 17 last week. Assuming that the RTX 3050 will be good enough.

I thought the CPU was more important and the graphic card was more helpful for gaming. Anyone knows?

I maxed out the ram with 64GB. The new Dells have DDR5 ram, will this increase efficiency compared to DDR4 ram?

Henry Richardson · Apr 2, 2022

BillyBobSenna said:
So, the XPS 15 and 17 gen 12's have been announced. They currently have the option of an RTX 3050. Next month, they will also offer an RTX 3060. For Adobe and Topaz photo editing, how big of a difference do you think this would be?

See this thread where many people ran the same Topaz Sharpen AI benchmark suite on different computers and reported the time:

PC Topaz Sharpen AI Benchmark 2021

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65635932

Probably if you go through there you will see some RTX 3060 and RTX 3050 times. They may be the desktop GPUs and not the laptops GPUs though, but probably still quite useful. Also, the version of Sharpen AI is different now and possibly the timings would be a bit different too, but the relative difference would probably still be about the same.

It would be interesting to have a new 2022 thread.

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JamesRitson · Apr 2, 2022

Tom Ames said:
BillyBobSenna said:

So, the XPS 15 and 17 gen 12's have been announced. They currently have the option of an RTX 3050. Next month, they will also offer an RTX 3060. For Adobe and Topaz photo editing, how big of a difference do you think this would be?

How about video editing?

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I'm mainly doing photoediting, but probably some video too in the future. I ordered the new XPS 17 last week. Assuming that the RTX 3050 will be good enough.

I thought the CPU was more important and the graphic card was more helpful for gaming. Anyone knows?

I maxed out the ram with 64GB. The new Dells have DDR5 ram, will this increase efficiency compared to DDR4 ram?

64GB is a very good move, GPU is equally as important for photo and especially video depending on the software you use. As always go with the best you can afford.

NickZ2016 · Apr 2, 2022

BillyBobSenna said:
So, the XPS 15 and 17 gen 12's have been announced. They currently have the option of an RTX 3050. Next month, they will also offer an RTX 3060. For Adobe and Topaz photo editing, how big of a difference do you think this would be?

How about video editing?

For video the first thing to check is do they disable the IGPU. You'll need the IGPU for decoding HEVC 4.2.2.

The second question is how much VRAM? 4K is very marginal on 4GB. 8GB will do almost anything you want. Higher resolutions you'd need even more VRAM.

Austinian · Apr 2, 2022

The XPS 17 9720 is an interesting machine, and I'm considering one for myself.

One thing I'm wondering about is the "Intel Iris Xe Graphics" option that is separate from the "Intel UHD Graphics" option. Does anyone know if this PC is one of the first to incorporate a discrete Intel GPU? I've not seen a really comprehensive review of this machine yet.

NickZ2016 · Apr 2, 2022

The latest discrete GPU are called Arc. The ones announced a few days ago. I think the low model numbers are A330 and A350. High end would be A770 with a A5something in between. But only the lower two models have been released.

What you mention are the older laptop cards.

Austinian · Apr 2, 2022

NickZ2016 said:
The latest discrete GPU are called Arc. The ones announced a few days ago. I think the low model numbers are A330 and A350. High end would be A770 with a A5something in between. But only the lower two models have been released.

What you mention are the older laptop cards.

Older Xe laptop cards? I've not seen any mention of those previously. Got a link to further info?

JamesRitson · Apr 2, 2022

Austinian said:
The XPS 17 9720 is an interesting machine, and I'm considering one for myself.

One thing I'm wondering about is the "Intel Iris Xe Graphics" option that is separate from the "Intel UHD Graphics" option. Does anyone know if this PC is one of the first to incorporate a discrete Intel GPU? I've not seen a really comprehensive review of this machine yet.

Intel Iris Xe Graphics are integrated on the CPU not discreet.

NickZ2016 · Apr 2, 2022

They were part of the laptop products not PCIE desktop.

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Austinian · Apr 2, 2022

NickZ2016 said:
They were part of the laptop products not PCIE desktop.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...logy/visual-technology/graphics-overview.html

Of course.

To clarify matters, what I'm referring to are the "Video Card" choices on this page:

https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/xps-17-laptop/spd/xps-17-9720-laptop

If there's only the CPU's integrated graphics, why are there separate options for UHD and Intel Xe? That's what's puzzling me.

Edit: Never mind, I think I've figured it out. No discrete Intel GPU, sadly. :-(

I'm guessing it's Xe's branding requirement for dual-channel DRAM, and the additional memory module Dell adds when Xe graphics are selected.

NickZ2016 · Apr 2, 2022

There was an add on card version. More powerful than the IGPU. It's what forced Nvidia to stop pushing things like the Mx350 or later.

Austinian · Apr 2, 2022

NickZ2016 said:
There was an add on card version.

Of the Xe? Never seen that, only integrated so far. I'm interested; is there a link, perhaps to some laptop that used it?

NickZ2016 said:
More powerful than the IGPU. It's what forced Nvidia to stop pushing things like the Mx350 or later.

I never owned a laptop with one of those MX chips, didn't see much benefit.

NickZ2016 · Apr 2, 2022

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I can't remember if it always had that exact name or not. Scroll down various laptops are listed.

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