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The silver camera stay more cool than the black one (I use it in Asia).
Therefore it may produce less noise and so it is better.
It may easy get failures when hotter, if it had a black body.
Heat is always bad for electronics.
Furthermore, the camera looks very modern, I like its silver/black look!

Jack.
Max Fun said:
I keep reading about complains regarding the build quality of the
300D. And I just want to ask... wat's up with that?

Does a camera have to be made of metal to be good? Even if it is
made of metal, will you throw it around anyhow? Someone dropped the
DRebel down some stairs and it survived. Is that strong enough
build? Let's say the metal body can survive a greater drop, but
your lens and whatever mechanics inside the camera won't!

And then there's the colour thing. What's wrong with silver? Does
being black make a camera better? I quite like the silver colour
actually; at least it doesn't make the camera look like some
antique from the days of yore. You know, if the 300D came in white
to match the L lenses, then maybe people will like it better.

I think people who are used to the old metallic SLRs may not be
used to the 300D, but that's no reason to say that it's one of its
weak points. In fact, being made of plastic makes it lighter and
becomes one of its greatest advantages!

Sorry of the rant, but it's getting late and my experiments didn't
work :(

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How do you edit or delete a post after it is posted?
Dave Rozzell said:
Finch said:
and why is there no function to edit posts, or delete your own
posts if, perhaps they are stupid.
Finch said:
Personally ive got nothing against silver plastic, Id rather it be
metal but I know im buying the lowest end Digital SLR there is, so
Im perfectly ok with plastic. As for it being silver, I think it
looks just fine compared to the raher drab 10D, then again id be
far more likely to buy it if it looked like this
http://www.geocities.com/exitfromreality

sorry for the link but geocities is stupid and wont let me host
pictures on other sites.

-Finch
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SF bay area is having its first cold weather of the season. On a hike on Monday, I noticed that the plastic Rebel body didn't feel as cold as the metal lens barrel.
 
Robert Ricketts said:
But I did carry a tiny three legged tripod. Obviously, I wasn't
using this on the floor. I would press is againt a door jam, wall,
lamppost, etc. for stability. A guard approached me and said I
could not use it. I asked why, because I was not a hazard. He
agreed but said it's because my pictures will be "too high quality"
and therefore competing with the Lourve's own photobooks for sale.

So, I just held my breath and shot everything free hand. Did OK, too!
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I had a similar experience at Versailles. I had my Fuji 602 + lens tube + big wide angle lens attached all mounted on a fully RETRACTED monopod. The monopod NEVER touched the ground - I anchored it on my belt and this provide a very stable 'platform' for shooting. Several guards looked at me funny but I guess they could think of a good reason to tell me to stop. Finally towards the end, one guard came over and told me to stop. I would have asked pourquoi? but by that time, I had got all my shots and was in a rush. Also, as anyone that's been there, the grounds and gardens at Versaille are huge. Despite this they will not allow anyone to set down a tripod. That's the first I've heard of prohibiting tripods outdoors in a non-space restricted area.

I guess they just want us to buy the photobooks.

Here's a shot from Versaille taken with the 602:
http://www.pbase.com/image/22263382/original

I'm now considering upgrading to the 300D...
 
Seems like most people here likes the build of the 300D, but where are all the people who had been criticising it? Do you like black just because you want to look more pro?
Max Fun said:
I keep reading about complains regarding the build quality of the
300D. And I just want to ask... wat's up with that?

Does a camera have to be made of metal to be good? Even if it is
made of metal, will you throw it around anyhow? Someone dropped the
DRebel down some stairs and it survived. Is that strong enough
build? Let's say the metal body can survive a greater drop, but
your lens and whatever mechanics inside the camera won't!

And then there's the colour thing. What's wrong with silver? Does
being black make a camera better? I quite like the silver colour
actually; at least it doesn't make the camera look like some
antique from the days of yore. You know, if the 300D came in white
to match the L lenses, then maybe people will like it better.

I think people who are used to the old metallic SLRs may not be
used to the 300D, but that's no reason to say that it's one of its
weak points. In fact, being made of plastic makes it lighter and
becomes one of its greatest advantages!

Sorry of the rant, but it's getting late and my experiments didn't
work :(

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real guns are not made of plastic either.
JWP said:
Max Fun said:
I keep reading about complains regarding the build quality of the
300D. And I just want to ask... wat's up with that?

Does a camera have to be made of metal to be good? Even if it is
made of metal, will you throw it around anyhow? Someone dropped the
DRebel down some stairs and it survived. Is that strong enough
build? Let's say the metal body can survive a greater drop, but
your lens and whatever mechanics inside the camera won't!

And then there's the colour thing. What's wrong with silver? Does
being black make a camera better? I quite like the silver colour
actually; at least it doesn't make the camera look like some
antique from the days of yore. You know, if the 300D came in white
to match the L lenses, then maybe people will like it better.

I think people who are used to the old metallic SLRs may not be
used to the 300D, but that's no reason to say that it's one of its
weak points. In fact, being made of plastic makes it lighter and
becomes one of its greatest advantages!

Sorry of the rant, but it's getting late and my experiments didn't
work :(

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The Glocks are real guns. Their frames are made of high strength polymer plastic. Yes, there are steel components in the critical mechanical parts, but the plastic composition does contribute to their durability.
Daniella said:
JWP said:
Max Fun said:
I keep reading about complains regarding the build quality of the
300D. And I just want to ask... wat's up with that?

Does a camera have to be made of metal to be good? Even if it is
made of metal, will you throw it around anyhow? Someone dropped the
DRebel down some stairs and it survived. Is that strong enough
build? Let's say the metal body can survive a greater drop, but
your lens and whatever mechanics inside the camera won't!

And then there's the colour thing. What's wrong with silver? Does
being black make a camera better? I quite like the silver colour
actually; at least it doesn't make the camera look like some
antique from the days of yore. You know, if the 300D came in white
to match the L lenses, then maybe people will like it better.

I think people who are used to the old metallic SLRs may not be
used to the 300D, but that's no reason to say that it's one of its
weak points. In fact, being made of plastic makes it lighter and
becomes one of its greatest advantages!

Sorry of the rant, but it's getting late and my experiments didn't
work :(

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The Secret to Life is... Calcium!!
http://max-fun.fotopic.net
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JWP
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Daniella
main gallery: http://www.infrareddream.com
http://www.photosig.com/go/users/userphotos?id=26918
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
C7OO FORUM: http://www.c700uz.com
c7OOuz, Dimage-7, Tcon14tele, C210tele, Cokin-173, Grad-ND,
Hoya-red-Intensifier, Hoya_R_72.
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The colors and the polypropiline are fine with me. The only part I don't like -and what kept me from opening and warming up to this camera for months- is the "Rebel" name and the red badge. ("Kiss" would have kept me away.) If I could get a black 300D badge installed, I'd be even happier with my new camera. I guess I've always associated the Rebel film cameras with kids and silly TV ads where photography is on the margin.
Max Fun said:
I keep reading about complains regarding the build quality of the
300D. And I just want to ask... wat's up with that?

Does a camera have to be made of metal to be good? Even if it is
made of metal, will you throw it around anyhow? Someone dropped the
DRebel down some stairs and it survived. Is that strong enough
build? Let's say the metal body can survive a greater drop, but
your lens and whatever mechanics inside the camera won't!

And then there's the colour thing. What's wrong with silver? Does
being black make a camera better? I quite like the silver colour
actually; at least it doesn't make the camera look like some
antique from the days of yore. You know, if the 300D came in white
to match the L lenses, then maybe people will like it better.

I think people who are used to the old metallic SLRs may not be
used to the 300D, but that's no reason to say that it's one of its
weak points. In fact, being made of plastic makes it lighter and
becomes one of its greatest advantages!

Sorry of the rant, but it's getting late and my experiments didn't
work :(

--
The Secret to Life is... Calcium!!
http://max-fun.fotopic.net
Click to expand...
 
Timmy42 said:
People don't like the silver because a solid black camera looks
more professional. And if the camera looks professional, it makes
the person holding it look professional. And as we have come to
learn, there are a lot of posers out there who think looking like a
professional is just like being a professoinal. (we all do it
though; admit it)
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--camera. Just my 2 cents

Tanglefoot47
 
We visted Versailles also, yes, the place is H-U-G-E. Versailles was toward the end of our trip, so by then I had developed a pretty keen awareness of the guards and concealed my criminal activity of stabilizing my camera.

If I wanted a good shot and a guard was nearby, I just sucked im a big breath and shot free hand. I was pretty amazed how slow some of my shots were and still in good focus.

ex. This was was shot at 1/6th.

http://www.pbase.com/image/22680971
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Jared Hunter said:
Robert Ricketts said:
But I did carry a tiny three legged tripod. Obviously, I wasn't
using this on the floor. I would press is againt a door jam, wall,
lamppost, etc. for stability. A guard approached me and said I
could not use it. I asked why, because I was not a hazard. He
agreed but said it's because my pictures will be "too high quality"
and therefore competing with the Lourve's own photobooks for sale.

So, I just held my breath and shot everything free hand. Did OK, too!
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I had a similar experience at Versailles. I had my Fuji 602 + lens
tube + big wide angle lens attached all mounted on a fully
RETRACTED monopod. The monopod NEVER touched the ground - I
anchored it on my belt and this provide a very stable 'platform'
for shooting. Several guards looked at me funny but I guess they
could think of a good reason to tell me to stop. Finally towards
the end, one guard came over and told me to stop. I would have
asked pourquoi? but by that time, I had got all my shots and was in
a rush. Also, as anyone that's been there, the grounds and gardens
at Versaille are huge. Despite this they will not allow anyone to
set down a tripod. That's the first I've heard of prohibiting
tripods outdoors in a non-space restricted area.

I guess they just want us to buy the photobooks.

Here's a shot from Versaille taken with the 602:
http://www.pbase.com/image/22263382/original

I'm now considering upgrading to the 300D...
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The lens and camera are the same temperature (or at least very close due to color difference)

The bulk of temperature difference you feel has to do with heat conductance. Metal has high conductance - hence it can pull the heat out of your hand easier (that produces the the feel of cold) than a plastic (low conductance = insulation)

Put a plastic and metal object with some mass in the freezer, take them out after an hour and you will find the metal one feels colder, but of course since you just took it out of the freezer it is at the same temp.

Al
Karl Gohl said:
SF bay area is having its first cold weather of the season. On a
hike on Monday, I noticed that the plastic Rebel body didn't feel
as cold as the metal lens barrel.
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But the plastic body does not allow for as effective heat radiation from the internals of the camera so it may retain internally generated heat - so if it is hot outside the internal temp of the camera may actually get higher with the plastic body.

Al
Jack said:
The silver camera stay more cool than the black one (I use it in
Asia).
Therefore it may produce less noise and so it is better.
It may easy get failures when hotter, if it had a black body.
Heat is always bad for electronics.
Furthermore, the camera looks very modern, I like its silver/black
look!
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The build isn't too much of an issue to me. More the texture. I'm used to my A-1 and the plastic cameras just don't feel the same, I'm sorry but the only word that comes to mind is that they feel like a toy. For a working pro, the build might be an issue. Have you seen what happens to some of their cameras/lenses? No wonder the 1 series is so tough and rugged. Gotta love pics of a guy carrying a $6000 lens with duct tape holding the hood on.

I hate the silver. I hate it in electronics for TV/stereo (my biggest hobby), I hate it for cameras. I only like it on cars, metal cars, that is. There's something about silver plastic that just looks crappy or as if they are trying to make it SEEM like metal. It just doesn't work for me. My entire A/V rack at home is all black for a reason. The recent push into silver in that arena is very annoying. And actually, a lot of those machines are silver metal and I still hate it.

It's a personal thing, has nothing to do with anybody else. Try not to assume I care about what anybody else thinks of the Rebel, try not to assume I think you should care about what I think. Certainly don't assume I'm trying to influence anyone to agree with me if they don't now.

OTOH, if the only camera I want/can afford is silver, I'll still buy it. Dislike of the color is the least important problem, I'm more concerned with no MLU and some other features the 10D provides over the Rebel. I'm still working on affording ANY DSLR, so which one is still up in the air. I'm even considering the new Sigma. It will really come down to the dollars for me.
Max Fun said:
Seems like most people here likes the build of the 300D, but where
are all the people who had been criticising it? Do you like black
just because you want to look more pro?
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