The WOW camera

Ugh. This again?
Yes, this "again"!
APS, FF, and several MF sensors are just as slow to update as M43.
Another apologist. The fact is that APS, FF and MF sensors start with an advantage from the get-go
Which is the gist of it, you aren't asking for M43 to move the same pace, but rather to move at an even faster pace which is unrealistic given it's a niche format. If you compare sensor performance and scale it by sensor size, you will find it is not behind at all.
What "pace"? We've been pretty much stuck with the same sensors for years now, and had to wait WAY too long of a time to see the 20mp sensors installed in anything but the top models.
And what "updates" are you claiming that m43 has received lately? FF has had BSI-CMOS for quite a while now, and recently added stacked.
BSI is overblown for IQ (minimal improvement in IQ in sensors 1 inch and larger and only in the most extreme ISOs) and that's only one aspect of a sensor. If you expect magic from BSI to erase the sensor size difference, get ready to be sorely disappointed.

How many FF and APS-C sensors out there are 60fps for faster full res? M43 has had this for a long while and those formats are only beginning to catch up.

Sony has a new 120 fps BSI stacked 4/3" sensor on its catalog that's even faster.
Does m43 have ANY of this??
Yes, the GH5S from 2018 uses a BSI sensor (IMX299). You can see it was of minimal help in most photography (really only useful if you regularly go over 12800 ISO and still want analog scaling, although part of this was the dual gain, not BSI).
And apparently the 12,800 ISO, while not important to you, is important to a lot of people. If not 12,800, then certainly 6,400 and 3,200, all which will see improvement when they also improve 12,800.

I might not use 12,800 a lot but that's NOT the point. The POINT is that I have no right to say that 12,800 isn't a new magic target number...just because it might not be important to ME. Other people are using it, other people are using it to help make their buying decisions, and therefore if it can be improved it should, so as to help - help sales, help interest AND help results even when you don't push things quite that far.

So many people here we falling into the usual, very modern ego trap: What is good enough for me should be good enough for you. No. I'm not that selfish and understand that, in order to SURVIVE, m43 simply needs to reach more people. That's the fact. And, to reach more people, it needs to provide them with the things they want or expect.

If, in technology, you're not interested in constantly pushing the envelope... retire. The competition doesn't take prisoners.
 
Sports/action/BIFs is the best niche market OM has going for it.
Is it possible you could be wrong?

What if the new OM camera is unable to match the performance of the Sony, Canon and now Nikon cameras? Will sports/action/bifs be the best niche market OM has going for it?
Why does olympus need to match?
Not saying they do. But how will consumers view the new OM System brand if they don't?
If they could meet say 70% of what the top ff cameras can do at a fraction of the price that is what would make it attarctive.
What happens if they meet only 70% but are unable to offer their camera at a fraction of the price because the cost is high and the volume is low?
The current olympus and panasonic mft cameras are already quite good.
Will OM System get enough recognition now they've been forced to drop the Olympus branding?
Olympus outside of Japan was never that popular to begin with, and most who are a current users are well aware.
I'm a current user and I'm not convinced that's true. Olympus compact cameras were very popular in the UK. The sheer number of them on the used market is evidence of that.
And how many more canon EF/nikon f mount bodies and lenses are there, not to mention the canon eos m mount? I forgot that olympus did well in Europe, but I don't think they did as well as other brands.
Do you think many consumers may react to a new OM camera by making a comparison to Canon and Nikon? That could sway a purchase decision that doesn't favour OM.
Sure, but what makes you think that a non sports and wildlife camera would not invoke the same comparison to canon nikon etc?
The name change will definitely hurt, but that's the whole point of the rebranding event they did. To start getting the name out.
Look at Pentax, how did keeping the name work out for them? Once a dominant name in photography, and they still make very good cameras, but keeping name didn't really help with recognition as years have gone by.
Lack of innovation perhaps?
You mean not switching to mirroless cameras?
No.
They weren't doing that well before mirroless either.
Innovation kept Olympus going, that's why we have mirrorless cameras today. Maybe the best niche market for OM hasn't been created yet!
They could try and go for a totally new market, but that could totally backfire as well if they are not successful.
Is it possible that going for an existing market could also not work out well?
Yes, but you will have a better idea of what to expect.
I wonder what Pentax expected?
That's a good point lol. However Pentax has survived with a small loyal customer base.
OMDS doesn't have the luxury anymore to just write off losses.

What is this unknown lucrative market you are thinking of?
Do you think there's only one type of camera that can peak peoples interest?
No, and that's a good point. However, I would say that a good sports and wildlife camera can do everything just as well if not better then a camera that wasn't designed for that role.
Butting in on the discussion here, because I don’t quite see that as true. Sports and wildlife generally thrive on long tele lenses, which tend to encourage rather large, grippy and heavy bodies for balance and stability. (The Nikon Z9 is an example, or the E-M1x in m43).

But that runs against the benefit of m43 in size/weight.
I’d argue for emphasizing the small and light aspect of the format. For me the E-M5 with a 45mm f1.8 is a better ideological starting point of the format than the E-M1x with a 300mm f4. A light and compact trekking/travelling system.
Personally, I hope there is room for both. (Additionally, it’s getting to the point that the pixel densities of the larger formats increasingly negate the crop=reach benefit of m43. Unless OM releases a higher resolution sensor, the reach argument will progressively weaken even more going forward.)
 
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As one of the main points in their recent presentation was portability for wildlife enthusiasts, I hope the WOW camera catches up OM's AF capabilities to that of Canon and Sony.

I have not found the Bird AF of the X to be as accurate or as sticky as I had hoped.
Absolutely. I agree on both points.

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I think Nikon just announced the WOW camera (z9)...

Now OM Systems has something to shoot for. The target is there, just hit it or beat it.
Maybe OM System could WOW people with a camera that's not designed for sports/action!
How?
By perhaps not being limited by their imagination.
I think they are not

Olympus has been always one of the most innovative company and the same D&R team is now in OMDs (probably with some personal cut).
Is it possible that OMDS could follow in the footsteps of Olympus and create a new innovative camera that could be profitable, without having to compete with range topping sports cameras?
I have no clue about that.
I would imagine closed mindedness is not the best recipe for success.
Probably you are right, but I simply buy cameras, how could I have a clue about what is going on in the D&R department of camera manufacturers.

I simply hope they survive as I do not want to have to switch system in a few years because m43 will not be around anymore
 
Sports/action/BIFs is the best niche market OM has going for it.
Is it possible you could be wrong?

What if the new OM camera is unable to match the performance of the Sony, Canon and now Nikon cameras? Will sports/action/bifs be the best niche market OM has going for it?
Why does olympus need to match?
Not saying they do. But how will consumers view the new OM System brand if they don't?
If they could meet say 70% of what the top ff cameras can do at a fraction of the price that is what would make it attarctive.
What happens if they meet only 70% but are unable to offer their camera at a fraction of the price because the cost is high and the volume is low?
The current olympus and panasonic mft cameras are already quite good.
Will OM System get enough recognition now they've been forced to drop the Olympus branding?
Olympus outside of Japan was never that popular to begin with, and most who are a current users are well aware.
I'm a current user and I'm not convinced that's true. Olympus compact cameras were very popular in the UK. The sheer number of them on the used market is evidence of that.
And how many more canon EF/nikon f mount bodies and lenses are there, not to mention the canon eos m mount? I forgot that olympus did well in Europe, but I don't think they did as well as other brands.
Do you think many consumers may react to a new OM camera by making a comparison to Canon and Nikon? That could sway a purchase decision that doesn't favour OM.
Sure, but what makes you think that a non sports and wildlife camera would not invoke the same comparison to canon nikon etc?
The name change will definitely hurt, but that's the whole point of the rebranding event they did. To start getting the name out.
Look at Pentax, how did keeping the name work out for them? Once a dominant name in photography, and they still make very good cameras, but keeping name didn't really help with recognition as years have gone by.
Lack of innovation perhaps?
You mean not switching to mirroless cameras?
No.
They weren't doing that well before mirroless either.
Innovation kept Olympus going, that's why we have mirrorless cameras today. Maybe the best niche market for OM hasn't been created yet!
They could try and go for a totally new market, but that could totally backfire as well if they are not successful.
Is it possible that going for an existing market could also not work out well?
Yes, but you will have a better idea of what to expect.
I wonder what Pentax expected?
That's a good point lol. However Pentax has survived with a small loyal customer base.
OMDS doesn't have the luxury anymore to just write off losses.

What is this unknown lucrative market you are thinking of?
Do you think there's only one type of camera that can peak peoples interest?
No, and that's a good point. However, I would say that a good sports and wildlife camera can do everything just as well if not better then a camera that wasn't designed for that role.
Butting in on the discussion here, because I don’t quite see that as true. Sports and wildlife generally thrive on long tele lenses, which tend to encourage rather large, grippy and heavy bodies for balance and stability. (The Nikon Z9 is an example, or the E-M1x in m43).

But that runs against the benefit of m43 in size/weight.
I’d argue for emphasizing the small and light aspect of the format. For me the E-M5 with a 45mm f1.8 is a better ideological starting point of the format than the E-M1x with a 300mm f4. A light and compact trekking/travelling system.
also Sony's mirroless cameras are not mich bigger then mft cameras, and are quite good for wildlife. I don't agree with the notion that a wildlife cameras encourage big cameras, Sony and canon say otherwise (eos R5, Sony a1). The em1 mkiii is good wildlife camera and can be handled with larger lenses as many do. Omds could provide an external battery grip if people want.
Personally, I hope there is room for both. (Additionally, it’s getting to the point that the pixel densities of the larger formats increasingly negate the crop=reach benefit of m43. Unless OM releases a higher resolution sensor, the reach argument will progressively weaken even more going forward.)
Well some suggest that size advantage is also eroding, with the arrival of slower ff lenses.
 
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I think Nikon just announced the WOW camera (z9)...

Now OM Systems has something to shoot for. The target is there, just hit it or beat it.
I disagree that the Z9 is the WOW camera from Nikon. The EVF is a step backwards (60 v 120 mhz). The LCD is cool though. The electronic shutter seems the biggest deal - and that is just another direction, not a WOW feature. I don't see CF as an improvement except for ultimate speed - but perhaps bent pins are now an "old wives tale" - I was glad to move to SD.

Olympus is surely not paying too close attention to it. The need to have constant upgrades in features may not be the most desirable long-term strategy. Perhaps they will find a new path away from the "latest thing" trend of so many products.

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I had been hoping for a slight bump in resolution, or at least an omni-aspect sensor so we didn't still get cropped when shooting 3:2, but with the recent Sony sensor announcement, unfortunately it doesn't look like that's going to WOW me.

I still hope they'll add HDR mode output to RAW files, and Multi-shot output to RAW. Otherwise those features are pretty useless as-is if they only create jpegs. Much upgraded viewfinder. 14-bit RAW would also be nice.

Frankly, I care less about speed and would rather have the upgrades in resolution and dynamic range.
 
The guys wanting better sensors think it will improve their mediocre images.

They forget that there are galleries and magazine covers done with D90 lvl tech. But their 3" instagram pic needs BSI, 40+ MP and all this other nonsense.

No pleasing these people. They will always find something to complain about.

People: dont fool yourself into thinking tech will overcome lack of skill. Or admit that you are a spec junkie and not a photographer... no shame in that.
 
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What would make me take out MY wallet would be a slightly smaller PEN F MkII (size of EM10MK1), full metal body, upgraded AF, top of the line viewfinder with good eye relief, improved DR and reduced noise without loosing details, tilt screen and weather sealed.... but that won't ever happen I'm afraid, so money stays in the bank.

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My wishes would mostly benefit video shooters.

No mechanical shutter might allow room for built-in ND filters.

4K 120fps, and 1080p at at least 120fps

10-bit LOG

Both a true 24fps AND a 23.98fps shooting modes, with the ability to shoot DCI format at all 4K frame rates.

Having the higher bit-rate codec that is normally available only in 4K 24p be available for 23.98, 30p, 60p and 120p

Waveforms and zebras (maybe they have them on E-M1 MK III, but I only have a MK II.

An updated menu system.

And most importantly, Dual Gain Output similar to the sensor in the Canon C70, for increased dynamic range and cleaner shadows. Note that the Dual Gain Output is a DIFFERENT system than dual Native ISO. As DIYPhotography explains it:

Canon’s Dual Gain Output actually has two separate photodiodes at each photosite with each sending its signal through its own separate circuitry and processing to protect both the shadows and the highlights. It nd then combines the two signals to increase the overall dynamic range of the entire frame – and it does this however many times per second it needs to in order to meet the required frame rate.


Of course, if they want to record RAW video internally, that would be nice, too :)
 
The new m43 stacked BSI sensor could enable a lot of improvements. However, stacked sensors appear to be expensive and only get used in expensive cameras. This is especially true since it will be Sony selling the sensor to OMS. So, hopefully, that new sensor will turn up in an E-M1X II and I suspect that is what the WOW camera (if it ever gets released) will be. And it will be expensive. The sensor probably won't make it to lower models for quite some time. Look at how long it took for full-frame semsors to move from expensive models to mainstream/enthusiast cameras.

If OMS use the new sensor, they have the opportunity to dramatically improve a lot of features and C-AF. However, as a long-time Panasonic and Olympus user, I don't have a lot of confidence that they will. We've always hoped with each new model that it would match the state of the art in AF but been repeatedly disappointed. People used to say things like "if it matches the AF of the A9...". Now they say, "if it matches the AF of the A1...". From bitter experience I would say, don't hold your breath.

If you want state of the art AF, go buy an A1/R3/Z9.
 
The guys wanting better sensors think it will improve their mediocre images.

They forget that there are galleries and magazine covers done with D90 lvl tech. But their 3" instagram pic needs BSI, 40+ MP and all this other nonsense.

No pleasing these people. They will always find something to complain about.

People: dont fool yourself into thinking tech will overcome lack of skill. Or admit that you are a spec junkie and not a photographer... no shame in that.
Indeed. Real photogs still shoot Brownies, the rest of you are all wannabe's.
 
I think Nikon just announced the WOW camera (z9)...

Now OM Systems has something to shoot for. The target is there, just hit it or beat it.
Maybe OM System could WOW people with a camera that's not designed for sports/action!
How?
By perhaps not being limited by their imagination.
I think they are not

Olympus has been always one of the most innovative company and the same D&R team is now in OMDs (probably with some personal cut).
Is it possible that OMDS could follow in the footsteps of Olympus and create a new innovative camera that could be profitable, without having to compete with range topping sports cameras?
I have no clue about that.

But I am sure that if they make a OMD1MkiV with AF that performs as well as Sony and Canon (and probably Nikon Z9) I will buy it ... and will be not the only one.

But forget about sport, the market is about amateur plus some professional wildlife photographers. The professional ones are rarer than the animals they photograph :-)

Do not get me wrong I want OMD and Lumix to make nice compact innovative cameras but at present what they need is to survive, and I am sure that if they do a good job in developing a good videocentric camera (Lumix) and good nature photography camera (OMD) they can manage it. Some AI computational tricks could also do the job.

If they succeed then they can take care of the rest.

I continuously read here about the fact that the m43 sensors are old and need to be updated and bla bla... . But even a new sensor with the best image quality will be worst than 35 mm sensor and medium format (that is getting smaller and cheaper).

But on autofocus, focus stacking pro-captures need small sensor can offer a lot of advantages that for me are worth to continue to use m43 and no not regret the better IQ of the larger sensor, because I get shot I would not get with a larger camera or would just not be fun to get them but hard work (and I manly photograph for fun)

if not sadly m43 will be soon history and we will have not to worry about which will be the next camera
This is so true. There are a couple of things that made me laugh a bit recently.

A family member was helping my family by shooting another family member's wedding and very recently picked up a Canon R5. He was talking about how amazed he was at the silent shutter and IBIS (and autofocus). I had a bit of an internal laugh, because those are benefits I have been enjoying for the last 10 years. (The Canon autofocus does look nice, though).

The latest flagship sports cameras from Nikon and Canon also made me snicker a bit. They are advertising 20fps. The used EM1 mkii I picked up can do 18fps with autofocus and 60fps with autofocus locked.

Now, those flagship cameras offer other advantages to justify their price (state if the art autofocus, higher resolution, lower noise in low light, etc.). My point is simply that micro 4/3 has offered some nice capability enabled by the smaller sensor speeds that full frame is just now matching. If they can continue to leverage that advantage and get their autofocus on par with Canon and Sony I think they will do ok.
If EM1s have been offering for several years sports-relevant performance superior to that offered by Canon, Nikon and Sony why is it that Olympus has not made the slightest dent in the professional sports photography market? And given they haven't, why do you think that is going to change with the WOW camera, no matter how good it is?

I am not interested in a debate over whether so-called full frame is or is not inherently superior to m4/3 for professional sports applications, but there is a reality that it is at least perceived to be by the people who actually buy camera gear for professional sports photography. No amount of auto focus improvement is going to change that.
Quite simple really, there were exactly zero lenses to replace all those sweet sweet lenses in the 200-600mm range. And while there now is one, it (150-400mm) is more like FF's 200-400mm, a kind of a special purpose lens.

Would they have made it into that market had they had such lenses (for example, 150mm f/1.8, 200mm f/2, 300mm f/2 (or .4, .8?))? Probably, but enough for it to make financial sense? Most likely not. Also while the performance was in many cases above the "competition", the AF performance has missed the mark just enough for Olympus's to not be that serious threat.
 
whatever updates are made to the M43 sensors will be applied to other size sensors as well
I think you have this reversed, and even if so, not for months or years.

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Ugh. This again?
Yes, this "again"!
APS, FF, and several MF sensors are just as slow to update as M43.
Another apologist. The fact is that APS, FF and MF sensors start with an advantage from the get-go
Which is the gist of it, you aren't asking for M43 to move the same pace, but rather to move at an even faster pace which is unrealistic given it's a niche format. If you compare sensor performance and scale it by sensor size, you will find it is not behind at all.
What "pace"? We've been pretty much stuck with the same sensors for years now, and had to wait WAY too long of a time to see the 20mp sensors installed in anything but the top models.
The pace in terms of the same "generation" of sensors. If the IQ scales with sensor size (meaning FF being 2 stops better, APS-C around 1 stop better), it's keeping pace.

You showed yourself most of the new sensors for FF and APS-C came around 2017/2018, which is the same time M43's newest sensors (IMX270, IMX272, IMX299) came.
And what "updates" are you claiming that m43 has received lately? FF has had BSI-CMOS for quite a while now, and recently added stacked.
BSI is overblown for IQ (minimal improvement in IQ in sensors 1 inch and larger and only in the most extreme ISOs) and that's only one aspect of a sensor. If you expect magic from BSI to erase the sensor size difference, get ready to be sorely disappointed.

How many FF and APS-C sensors out there are 60fps for faster full res? M43 has had this for a long while and those formats are only beginning to catch up.

Sony has a new 120 fps BSI stacked 4/3" sensor on its catalog that's even faster.
Does m43 have ANY of this??
Yes, the GH5S from 2018 uses a BSI sensor (IMX299). You can see it was of minimal help in most photography (really only useful if you regularly go over 12800 ISO and still want analog scaling, although part of this was the dual gain, not BSI).
And apparently the 12,800 ISO, while not important to you, is important to a lot of people. If not 12,800, then certainly 6,400 and 3,200, all which will see improvement when they also improve 12,800.

I might not use 12,800 a lot but that's NOT the point. The POINT is that I have no right to say that 12,800 isn't a new magic target number...just because it might not be important to ME. Other people are using it, other people are using it to help make their buying decisions, and therefore if it can be improved it should, so as to help - help sales, help interest AND help results even when you don't push things quite that far.

So many people here we falling into the usual, very modern ego trap: What is good enough for me should be good enough for you. No. I'm not that selfish and understand that, in order to SURVIVE, m43 simply needs to reach more people. That's the fact. And, to reach more people, it needs to provide them with the things they want or expect.

If, in technology, you're not interested in constantly pushing the envelope... retire. The competition doesn't take prisoners.
My point is if you think BSI would be the "savior" or throwing in boatloads of money into sensor development will change the IQ gap, then prepare to be sorely disappointed. When people ask for a better IQ sensor, typically what they want is significantly higher DR at base ISO, or DR across the board, not extending the max analog ISO range which people rarely use. BSI does not deliver on that once you have relatively large sensors (like 1" or larger) and a relatively modern high efficiency FSI sensor (which the Sony sensors in use today are). We've seen this in M43 and other formats time and time again when they switch to BSI (for example you see the same comparing XT2 vs XT3, RX100 vs RX100 II with the II's improvement at max ISOs from software noise reduction).

The dual gain circuitry tends to help more than BSI (that's a big part of the improvement from A7 II vs A7 III and similar upgrades in the Sony lineup). You can see the big bump at 800 ISO is all from the dual gain circuit kicking in. There is little to no DR improvement from the BSI alone.

https://www.dpreview.com/articles/3...nge-and-high-iso-improve-over-its-predecessor

The real big improvement in newer sensors, like stacked sensors, is faster readout speed. So M43 may move from 60fps (which is already ahead of many formats) to 120fps sensors. But given you deleted all the parts about speed, you seem to not care about that aspect.
 
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. . . most of the new sensors for FF and APS-C came around 2017/2018, which is the same time M43's newest sensors (IMX270, IMX272, IMX299) came.
Olympus released the E-M1 II in 2016 so the IMX270 must be earlier than 2017.

I think it was 2017 that it was revealed the camera indeed had a Sony IMX270

Peter
 
. . . most of the new sensors for FF and APS-C came around 2017/2018, which is the same time M43's newest sensors (IMX270, IMX272, IMX299) came.
Olympus released the E-M1 II in 2016 so the IMX270 must be earlier than 2017.

I think it was 2017 that it was revealed the camera indeed had a Sony IMX270

Peter
Well, I presume we are counting their first release dates in a camera (not catalog entry date or sensor production date which we have no visibility into), and the E-M1 II didn't reach the market until December 2016, which is practically 2017.
 
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The real big improvement in newer sensors, like stacked sensors, is faster readout speed. So M43 may move from 60fps (which is already ahead of many formats) to 120fps sensors. But given you deleted all the parts about speed, you seem to not care about that aspect.
OK, let's talk about your speed fanaticism.

And the fact that the fastest DILC camera out there, if you do the math...is now a full frame Nikon, processing a sensor with four times the surface area and twice the resolution.

The new Nikon Z9 does 20fps with autofocus at 45.7mp, or 914mp per second in RAW. The Sony A1 does up to 30fps, but only with e-shutter and lossy RAW, at 50mp, or 1500mp per second; 10fps with mechanical shutter and lossless RAW at 50mp, or 500mp per second.

The Olympus EM1x does 18fps with autofocus but e-shutter at 20mp, or 360mp per second. With mechanical shutter it does 10fps at 20mp, or 200mp per second. The Olympus' EM1x quotes up to 60fps with e-shutter and locked autofocus, 1200mp per second, but a figure of little real-world consequence when shooting the EM1x's intended subject, wildlife and sports as locked AF doesn't keep your moving subject in focus, does it?

Plus, PLUS, the first DILC to go fully digital readout, no mechanical shutter...is, again, a Nikon full frame camera with four times the sensor surface area to read, over twice the resolution.

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We've been WAITING for the all the promises that they made when choosing the smaller sensor to actually be fulfilled. They promised the best speeds, smaller bodies and lenses (they did indeed fulfill the lens part) and performance not really limited by the smaller sensor.

In the real world, they continued to put a 16mp CDAF sensor into bodies way past its sell-by date.

It is reasonable to believe that you, like most people, don't come into contact with many other people using their cameras. I, on the other hand, both live and work in tourist districts, and I see EXACTLY what is going on in the photography business by simply looking around me and seeing what people are carrying. And it was a hard sell on a 16mp CDAF camera (Olympus EM5 mk2) when competitors were selling 24mp PDAF DSLR with Live View and better low light capabilities (Canon T6i / T6S).

It is personally very frustrating to see the HORDES of Canon Rebel users holding their cameras out at arms length, using Live View, to take their photos. The vast, vast majority of them use it that way. I want to yell "Get a real Live View camera if that's the way you want to use it!!", but of course that would be rude. But they bought a camera that can, generally, do more than the m43 competitor (yes, yes, you yell "but IBIS!!" as if that's the Holy Grail. It's only one of a number of features that must be weighed) at the same price (for example, generally hit focus with far more consistency, not to mention better low light abilities).

I could go on, but sadly you believe you are correct, that m43 is such a great system as it stands - yet, Olympus BAILED OUT of the business. There is nothing wrong with the format, the problem is 2 manufacturers that have rested on their laurels and not pushed the designs enough, and now the competition is meeting their design paradigm (mirrorless), and trampling all over them with technological advancements.
 
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The real big improvement in newer sensors, like stacked sensors, is faster readout speed. So M43 may move from 60fps (which is already ahead of many formats) to 120fps sensors. But given you deleted all the parts about speed, you seem to not care about that aspect.
OK, let's talk about your speed fanaticism.

And the fact that the fastest DILC camera out there, if you do the math...is now a full frame Nikon, processing a sensor with four times the surface area and twice the resolution.

The new Nikon Z9 does 20fps with autofocus at 45.7mp, or 914mp per second in RAW. The Sony A1 does up to 30fps, but only with e-shutter and lossy RAW, at 50mp, or 1500mp per second; 10fps with mechanical shutter and lossless RAW at 50mp, or 500mp per second.

The Olympus EM1x does 18fps with autofocus but e-shutter at 20mp, or 360mp per second. With mechanical shutter it does 10fps at 20mp, or 200mp per second. The Olympus' EM1x quotes up to 60fps with e-shutter and locked autofocus, 1200mp per second, but a figure of little real-world consequence when shooting the EM1x's intended subject, wildlife and sports as locked AF doesn't keep your moving subject in focus, does it?

Plus, PLUS, the first DILC to go fully digital readout, no mechanical shutter...is, again, a Nikon full frame camera with four times the sensor surface area to read, over twice the resolution.
I'm not talking about speed because it's what I care about, it's because that's exactly the main advantage the newest stacked sensors offer (like for example the latest stacked 4/3" Sony has in their catalog), it's not a boost in IQ. If you care nothing about sensor speed, then having one of the latest stacked sensors is worthless to you.

You will also notice your examples above are flagship cameras with eye-wateringly high prices. You aren't seeing stacked sensors in entry $500 cameras in the other formats.

https://www.dpreview.com/news/68610...20mp-stacked-cmos-ready-for-micro-four-thirds

Also a fast sensor readout doesn't only have to do with fast burst speeds, it also means less rolling shutter, it gives more samples for AF and other computational tasks (like HDR and HHHR).
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We've been WAITING for the all the promises that they made when choosing the smaller sensor to actually be fulfilled. They promised the best speeds, smaller bodies and lenses (they did indeed fulfill the lens part) and performance not really limited by the smaller sensor.

In the real world, they continued to put a 16mp CDAF sensor into bodies way past its sell-by date.

It is reasonable to believe that you, like most people, don't come into contact with many other people using their cameras. I, on the other hand, both live and work in tourist districts, and I see EXACTLY what is going on in the photography business by simply looking around me and seeing what people are carrying. And it was a hard sell on a 16mp CDAF camera (Olympus EM5 mk2) when competitors were selling 24mp PDAF DSLR with Live View and better low light capabilities (Canon T6i / T6S).

It is personally very frustrating to see the HORDES of Canon Rebel users holding their cameras out at arms length, using Live View, to take their photos. The vast, vast majority of them use it that way. I want to yell "Get a real Live View camera if that's the way you want to use it!!", but of course that would be rude. But they bought a camera that can, generally, do more than the m43 competitor (yes, yes, you yell "but IBIS!!" as if that's the Holy Grail. It's only one of a number of features that must be weighed) at the same price (for example, generally hit focus with far more consistency, not to mention better low light abilities).

I could go on, but sadly you believe you are correct, that m43 is such a great system as it stands - yet, Olympus BAILED OUT of the business. There is nothing wrong with the format, the problem is 2 manufacturers that have rested on their laurels and not pushed the designs enough, and now the competition is meeting their design paradigm (mirrorless), and trampling all over them with technological advancements.
I'm not saying that the M43 players did all the right moves, but throwing a boatload of money at trying to be ahead in sensors (as you suggest) would not have changed M43's position. The Canon Rebel being a popular camera has to do with Canon (and previously Nikon's) brand inertia and little to do with the actual technical capabilities of sensors. The low end DSLRs from those brands are the only ILCs you see in big box general stores because of that brand inertia, not because they have cutting edge sensors. And they still sell because that's what most people's idea of a "serious" camera is.

I highly doubt even if they put the most amazing sensor in M43, that a bulk of camera buyers would even know about it or care. All it would do is bump up the price and that will scare off buyers, especially for the lower end cameras.

Previously I never knew about niche formats. I only personally bought a M43 camera because I had very specific requirements (a jacket pocketable camera with kit lens attached) and after extensive research I got my combo at an amazing price and it met all my needs (and more) better any of the other options out there (even ones with "superior" sensors). Panasonic's niche is good video capabilities, even in their lower end cameras. Ironically the more modern 20MP IMX269 is worse at it due to having a bigger crop in 4K, the older 16MP sensor actually is better due to less crop.

OM will need to find their own niche. They did try to work more on computational features (like HHHR and Live ND), but not sure if that is enough of a differentiator.
 
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The real big improvement in newer sensors, like stacked sensors, is faster readout speed. So M43 may move from 60fps (which is already ahead of many formats) to 120fps sensors. But given you deleted all the parts about speed, you seem to not care about that aspect.
In the real world, they continued to put a 16mp CDAF sensor into bodies way past its sell-by date.

It is reasonable to believe that you, like most people, don't come into contact with many other people using their cameras. I, on the other hand, both live and work in tourist districts, and I see EXACTLY what is going on in the photography business by simply looking around me and seeing what people are carrying.
Same here. Amongst tourists in London the most commonly seen mirrorless cameras are now Sony, particularly the A7 series, followed by Fuji. Olympus Pen and OM-D E-M10 cameras used to be popular but I rarely see them anymore.

Also a lot of the young guys I would observe shooting rap videos used to use Panasonic GH cameras but now almost exclusively use Sony A7 series cameras.
 
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