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I think design and build matters too, rather than just features.
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It is not the camera but the lenses in terms of performance, reach, and weight/size.
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daleeight
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Pretty sure that isn't huge, but you would know better.
Mock "us" m43 users? You mean, besides the point that I'm fully invested in m43 with 2 cameras, a GX7 and a G9, 7 lenses, 8 flashes and just about every possible accessory needed to use all that stuff in almost every situation, plus a new 64GB RAM / 2.75TB 3-SSD 17" 4K Xeon-Quadro laptop, and a 32" 4K display, purchased along with the G9 to enable video editing??
You mistake me for a Canon fan lol
But I'll here to be HONEST. New buyers smartly weigh options before purchasing and a system that has only "good enough" specifications won't continue to last long. Any logic applied to the discussion will quickly realize that is the reason that Olympus split off the camera division in the first place - their 'good enough' efforts weren't going to cut it, they either needed to double-down or forget the entire thing.
I'm here to say I really, really like the m43 format. At least, the promises they made for it. It's why I've kept the GX7, a great camera for the chassis layout and size. But, let's face it, my G9 although being a very good camera is simply 10-15% too large, and continuing along that line will only be the death sentence of the format.
We *want* excellent performance factoring in the size tradeoff, but anyone reasonable will weigh both the trade-off against the size when buying new. Excusing sitting still in technology,, yet offering devices that are really no longer much smaller than the competition, is doing the format NO favors.
If we want m43 to stick around in relevance we need to FIGHT for it, and to fight we need products that are both worthy and proud to defend. A "good enough" gets you a mocking as new buyers see the competition's options and walk away from you.
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The next model will. But will require a tripod...
How?
Let`s face reality
The only big news in m43 word (aside from rumors) is the Sony new sensor.
No increase in resolution but a lot of new technologies inside that provide ... speed.
It is not by chance that OMD and Lumix focus is on wildlife and video. They know/think that they have a chance to be competitive as they can take advantage of the new technology to tempt the existing users to update their cameras and to attract new consumers.
Macro with better focus-staking, high resolution, focus stacking plus HR and who knows which other new features will come in the future can take advantage of this speed.
... and macro is another focus of OMDs.
How can they produce a wow "normal" camera
A new GM or Pen-f series for example? nice idea, but.
The first one would have some customers (me, to update my new GM5
. No need for the high-speed sensor in such a camera, the existing 20mpx sensor would be enough. would a GM6, sell well enough to justify to make it? probably not.Even worst with Pen-f, it has already the actual 20MPix sensor, and it looks like it was not selling well. How could they make a Pen-f mkii attractive enough to expect to sell a lot of them?
Is not Lumix or OMDs fault if people do not buy enough of this camera.
The only way would be the Leica way that is able to sell the Q series for 6000 $
But they are not called Leica. Hom many people would buy Gm cameras or Pen cameras for let say 3000 $?
SO the small size alone is not more enough to sell the camera as 35mm alternatives with small primes or zooms are also available and easier to sell in 2021 ... and also in the future
So Lumix and OMD to survive need to focus on sectors where m43 is competitive and keep the system alive.
OMD1, G9 sized cameras are the right size for video and wildlife, and despite what many people think the 1x is also a good-sized camera. The smaller cameras would just be a pain to use, without reducing much the weight of a backpack filled with tele lenses for wildlife or tons of accessories for macro and video.
They will have to release/update also some of the smaller cameras for sure but this cannot be the focus to keep m43 attractive.
As I like wildlife and macro photography I am very excited about the upcoming products. I use primarily m43 not just for wildlife and macro but honestly, I do not see what could I get better than the OMd1mkii and GM5 for landscape, portraits, holidays ...
Most people that are not happy with the actual sensor shall probably better look for another system as I think no big enough improvements are possible on the image quality and resolution side to make any "normal" m43 camera a WOW camera (that by the way will be according to the most serious translation) simply be a camera with a wow factor/function)
I will replace the OMD 1 mkii but only because with the use I make of it it will be necessary, and it is the most durable machine I have ever had, the others I used for long time in the rain forest or on a construction site have not lasted more than one or two years (Should have carry a heavy and huge Nikon D6 or Canon 1 to have something better built than the Olympus).
But if I do replace it with the new OM it will be only because of a better Af for example that will increase my hit rates with wild animals or better focus stacking for example.
Cafe Racer
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By perhaps not being limited by their imagination.
Let`s face reality
The only big news in m43 word (aside from rumors) is the Sony new sensor.
No increase in resolution but a lot of new technologies inside that provide ... speed.
It is not by chance that OMD and Lumix focus is on wildlife and video. They know/think that they have a chance to be competitive as they can take advantage of the new technology to tempt the existing users to update their cameras and to attract new consumers.
Macro with better focus-staking, high resolution, focus stacking plus HR and who knows which other new features will come in the future can take advantage of this speed.
... and macro is another focus of OMDs.
How can they produce a wow "normal" camera
A new GM or Pen-f series for example? nice idea, but.
The first one would have some customers (me, to update my new GM5
Even worst with Pen-f, it has already the actual 20MPix sensor, and it looks like it was not selling well. How could they make a Pen-f mkii attractive enough to expect to sell a lot of them?
Is not Lumix or OMDs fault if people do not buy enough of this camera.
The only way would be the Leica way that is able to sell the Q series for 6000 $
But they are not called Leica. Hom many people would buy Gm cameras or Pen cameras for let say 3000 $?
SO the small size alone is not more enough to sell the camera as 35mm alternatives with small primes or zooms are also available and easier to sell in 2021 ... and also in the future
So Lumix and OMD to survive need to focus on sectors where m43 is competitive and keep the system alive.
OMD1, G9 sized cameras are the right size for video and wildlife, and despite what many people think the 1x is also a good-sized camera. The smaller cameras would just be a pain to use, without reducing much the weight of a backpack filled with tele lenses for wildlife or tons of accessories for macro and video.
They will have to release/update also some of the smaller cameras for sure but this cannot be the focus to keep m43 attractive.
As I like wildlife and macro photography I am very excited about the upcoming products. I use primarily m43 not just for wildlife and macro but honestly, I do not see what could I get better than the OMd1mkii and GM5 for landscape, portraits, holidays ...
Most people that are not happy with the actual sensor shall probably better look for another system as I think no big enough improvements are possible on the image quality and resolution side to make any "normal" m43 camera a WOW camera (that by the way will be according to the most serious translation) simply be a camera with a wow factor/function)
I will replace the OMD 1 mkii but only because with the use I make of it it will be necessary, and it is the most durable machine I have ever had, the others I used for long time in the rain forest or on a construction site have not lasted more than one or two years (Should have carry a heavy and huge Nikon D6 or Canon 1 to have something better built than the Olympus).
But if I do replace it with the new OM it will be only because of a better Af for example that will increase my hit rates with wild animals or better focus stacking for example.
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Same for me
The camera I have are the best for the type of photography I do. They are good enough and they are fantastic.
The point is what is good enough. For me, they are the best (GM5 and OMD1) because they are the better compromise for my needs.
one to have always with me, the other for wildlife and macro.
Would be my focus for example on landscape photography I would probably use something different.
But still, also for landscape, the good enough results meet my needs and are soooo good!! that I rarely see the reason to carry around the excellent Nikon D750 + the superb 14-24F2.8.
Stefano
Which is the gist of it, you aren't asking for M43 to move the same pace, but rather to move at an even faster pace which is unrealistic given it's a niche format. If you compare sensor performance and scale it by sensor size, you will find it is not behind at all.
BSI is overblown for IQ (minimal improvement in IQ in sensors 1 inch and larger and only in the most extreme ISOs) and that's only one aspect of a sensor. If you expect magic from BSI to erase the sensor size difference, get ready to be sorely disappointed.
How many FF and APS-C sensors out there are 60fps for faster full res? M43 has had this for a long while and those formats are only beginning to catch up.
Sony has a new 120 fps BSI stacked 4/3" sensor on its catalog that's even faster.
Yes, the GH5S from 2018 uses a BSI sensor (IMX299). You can see it was of minimal help in most photography (really only useful if you regularly go over 12800 ISO and still want analog scaling, although part of this was the dual gain, not BSI).
https://www.photonstophotos.net/Cha...asonic Lumix DC-GH5M2,Panasonic Lumix DC-GH5S
You are ignoring the GH5S sensor which is from 2018.
That's more of an AF algorithm issue than the sensor necessarily carrying the weight. Sony's cameras don't have dual pixel AF, but they perform as good, if not better, using a conventional PDAF array. M43 simply does not have the budget to develop the same level of AF algorithms as the bigger players, even when they have such an array. The 120fps 4/3" sensor mentioned have such an array (except in a quad format, so even better) and I'm guessing we won't really see it in use. Even if we did, it won't necessarily perform as well in AF as the other players.
In terms of IQ, the RP sensor is completely outdated, even the A7 from 2013 beats it in DR.
That uses a similar or even same sensor as the 2018 A7 III. Same year M43 got BSI.
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I think they are not
Olympus has been always one of the most innovative company and the same D&R team is now in OMDs (probably with some personal cut).
But you do not make stakeholders happy with imagination.
Even without limiting their imagination they will be crazy not to first bring out a camera that competes in AF accuracy and speed with the best Sony Nikon and Canon that are coming now to market. Such a camera will let them also send more expensive teles like the 300F4 or the 150-400
This could make the business profitable and then they can bring other cameras on the market.
Cafe Racer
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Is it possible that OMDS could follow in the footsteps of Olympus and create a new innovative camera that could be profitable, without having to compete with range topping sports cameras?
I have no clue about that.
But I am sure that if they make a OMD1MkiV with AF that performs as well as Sony and Canon (and probably Nikon Z9) I will buy it ... and will be not the only one.
But forget about sport, the market is about amateur plus some professional wildlife photographers. The professional ones are rarer than the animals they photograph
Do not get me wrong I want OMD and Lumix to make nice compact innovative cameras but at present what they need is to survive, and I am sure that if they do a good job in developing a good videocentric camera (Lumix) and good nature photography camera (OMD) they can manage it. Some AI computational tricks could also do the job.
If they succeed then they can take care of the rest.
I continuously read here about the fact that the m43 sensors are old and need to be updated and bla bla... . But even a new sensor with the best image quality will be worst than 35 mm sensor and medium format (that is getting smaller and cheaper).
But on autofocus, focus stacking pro-captures need small sensor can offer a lot of advantages that for me are worth to continue to use m43 and no not regret the better IQ of the larger sensor, because I get shot I would not get with a larger camera or would just not be fun to get them but hard work (and I manly photograph for fun)
if not sadly m43 will be soon history and we will have not to worry about which will be the next camera
PhotonBeam
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This is so true. There are a couple of things that made me laugh a bit recently.I have no clue about that.
But I am sure that if they make a OMD1MkiV with AF that performs as well as Sony and Canon (and probably Nikon Z9) I will buy it ... and will be not the only one.
But forget about sport, the market is about amateur plus some professional wildlife photographers. The professional ones are rarer than the animals they photograph
Do not get me wrong I want OMD and Lumix to make nice compact innovative cameras but at present what they need is to survive, and I am sure that if they do a good job in developing a good videocentric camera (Lumix) and good nature photography camera (OMD) they can manage it. Some AI computational tricks could also do the job.
If they succeed then they can take care of the rest.
I continuously read here about the fact that the m43 sensors are old and need to be updated and bla bla... . But even a new sensor with the best image quality will be worst than 35 mm sensor and medium format (that is getting smaller and cheaper).
But on autofocus, focus stacking pro-captures need small sensor can offer a lot of advantages that for me are worth to continue to use m43 and no not regret the better IQ of the larger sensor, because I get shot I would not get with a larger camera or would just not be fun to get them but hard work (and I manly photograph for fun)
if not sadly m43 will be soon history and we will have not to worry about which will be the next camera
A family member was helping my family by shooting another family member's wedding and very recently picked up a Canon R5. He was talking about how amazed he was at the silent shutter and IBIS (and autofocus). I had a bit of an internal laugh, because those are benefits I have been enjoying for the last 10 years. (The Canon autofocus does look nice, though).
The latest flagship sports cameras from Nikon and Canon also made me snicker a bit. They are advertising 20fps. The used EM1 mkii I picked up can do 18fps with autofocus and 60fps with autofocus locked.
Now, those flagship cameras offer other advantages to justify their price (state if the art autofocus, higher resolution, lower noise in low light, etc.). My point is simply that micro 4/3 has offered some nice capability enabled by the smaller sensor speeds that full frame is just now matching. If they can continue to leverage that advantage and get their autofocus on par with Canon and Sony I think they will do ok.
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Wu Jiaqiu
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i had a Nikon J5 in 2015 that could do 20fps full C-AF, if it was that important to you then you would have owned one, my first Nikon 1 a full decade ago did 60 fps in full 12 bit raw....if you needed that you would have bought one, these threads just turn into nonsenseThis is so true. There are a couple of things that made me laugh a bit recently.I have no clue about that.
But I am sure that if they make a OMD1MkiV with AF that performs as well as Sony and Canon (and probably Nikon Z9) I will buy it ... and will be not the only one.
But forget about sport, the market is about amateur plus some professional wildlife photographers. The professional ones are rarer than the animals they photograph
Do not get me wrong I want OMD and Lumix to make nice compact innovative cameras but at present what they need is to survive, and I am sure that if they do a good job in developing a good videocentric camera (Lumix) and good nature photography camera (OMD) they can manage it. Some AI computational tricks could also do the job.
If they succeed then they can take care of the rest.
I continuously read here about the fact that the m43 sensors are old and need to be updated and bla bla... . But even a new sensor with the best image quality will be worst than 35 mm sensor and medium format (that is getting smaller and cheaper).
But on autofocus, focus stacking pro-captures need small sensor can offer a lot of advantages that for me are worth to continue to use m43 and no not regret the better IQ of the larger sensor, because I get shot I would not get with a larger camera or would just not be fun to get them but hard work (and I manly photograph for fun)
if not sadly m43 will be soon history and we will have not to worry about which will be the next camera
A family member was helping my family by shooting another family member's wedding and very recently picked up a Canon R5. He was talking about how amazed he was at the silent shutter and IBIS (and autofocus). I had a bit of an internal laugh, because those are benefits I have been enjoying for the last 10 years. (The Canon autofocus does look nice, though).
The latest flagship sports cameras from Nikon and Canon also made me snicker a bit. They are advertising 20fps. The used EM1 mkii I picked up can do 18fps with autofocus and 60fps with autofocus locked.
Now, those flagship cameras offer other advantages to justify their price (state if the art autofocus, higher resolution, lower noise in low light, etc.). My point is simply that micro 4/3 has offered some nice capability enabled by the smaller sensor speeds that full frame is just now matching. If they can continue to leverage that advantage and get their autofocus on par with Canon and Sony I think they will do ok.
New Day Rising
Veteran Member
This is so true. There are a couple of things that made me laugh a bit recently.I have no clue about that.
But I am sure that if they make a OMD1MkiV with AF that performs as well as Sony and Canon (and probably Nikon Z9) I will buy it ... and will be not the only one.
But forget about sport, the market is about amateur plus some professional wildlife photographers. The professional ones are rarer than the animals they photograph
Do not get me wrong I want OMD and Lumix to make nice compact innovative cameras but at present what they need is to survive, and I am sure that if they do a good job in developing a good videocentric camera (Lumix) and good nature photography camera (OMD) they can manage it. Some AI computational tricks could also do the job.
If they succeed then they can take care of the rest.
I continuously read here about the fact that the m43 sensors are old and need to be updated and bla bla... . But even a new sensor with the best image quality will be worst than 35 mm sensor and medium format (that is getting smaller and cheaper).
But on autofocus, focus stacking pro-captures need small sensor can offer a lot of advantages that for me are worth to continue to use m43 and no not regret the better IQ of the larger sensor, because I get shot I would not get with a larger camera or would just not be fun to get them but hard work (and I manly photograph for fun)
if not sadly m43 will be soon history and we will have not to worry about which will be the next camera
A family member was helping my family by shooting another family member's wedding and very recently picked up a Canon R5. He was talking about how amazed he was at the silent shutter and IBIS (and autofocus). I had a bit of an internal laugh, because those are benefits I have been enjoying for the last 10 years. (The Canon autofocus does look nice, though).
The latest flagship sports cameras from Nikon and Canon also made me snicker a bit. They are advertising 20fps. The used EM1 mkii I picked up can do 18fps with autofocus and 60fps with autofocus locked.
Now, those flagship cameras offer other advantages to justify their price (state if the art autofocus, higher resolution, lower noise in low light, etc.). My point is simply that micro 4/3 has offered some nice capability enabled by the smaller sensor speeds that full frame is just now matching. If they can continue to leverage that advantage and get their autofocus on par with Canon and Sony I think they will do ok.
me neither, but to enter the sport professional market a company need next to the right gear to provide strong support to the photographers, being ready to replace defective gear ins a very short time, and being present with replacement and support staff at the big sports events. Canon and Nikon do this for a long time, Sony is also doing it now. Olympus never tried to do it and I have no Idea if OMD wants to try to do it or not but they never mentioned it.If EM1s have been offering for several years sports-relevant performance superior to that offered by Canon, Nikon and Sony why is it that Olympus has not made the slightest dent in the professional sports photography market? And given they haven't, why do you think that is going to change with the WOW camera, no matter how good it is?This is so true. There are a couple of things that made me laugh a bit recently.I have no clue about that.
But I am sure that if they make a OMD1MkiV with AF that performs as well as Sony and Canon (and probably Nikon Z9) I will buy it ... and will be not the only one.
But forget about sport, the market is about amateur plus some professional wildlife photographers. The professional ones are rarer than the animals they photograph
Do not get me wrong I want OMD and Lumix to make nice compact innovative cameras but at present what they need is to survive, and I am sure that if they do a good job in developing a good videocentric camera (Lumix) and good nature photography camera (OMD) they can manage it. Some AI computational tricks could also do the job.
If they succeed then they can take care of the rest.
I continuously read here about the fact that the m43 sensors are old and need to be updated and bla bla... . But even a new sensor with the best image quality will be worst than 35 mm sensor and medium format (that is getting smaller and cheaper).
But on autofocus, focus stacking pro-captures need small sensor can offer a lot of advantages that for me are worth to continue to use m43 and no not regret the better IQ of the larger sensor, because I get shot I would not get with a larger camera or would just not be fun to get them but hard work (and I manly photograph for fun)
if not sadly m43 will be soon history and we will have not to worry about which will be the next camera
A family member was helping my family by shooting another family member's wedding and very recently picked up a Canon R5. He was talking about how amazed he was at the silent shutter and IBIS (and autofocus). I had a bit of an internal laugh, because those are benefits I have been enjoying for the last 10 years. (The Canon autofocus does look nice, though).
The latest flagship sports cameras from Nikon and Canon also made me snicker a bit. They are advertising 20fps. The used EM1 mkii I picked up can do 18fps with autofocus and 60fps with autofocus locked.
Now, those flagship cameras offer other advantages to justify their price (state if the art autofocus, higher resolution, lower noise in low light, etc.). My point is simply that micro 4/3 has offered some nice capability enabled by the smaller sensor speeds that full frame is just now matching. If they can continue to leverage that advantage and get their autofocus on par with Canon and Sony I think they will do ok.
I am not interested in a debate over whether so-called full frame is or is not inherently superior to m4/3 for professional sports applications, but there is a reality that it is at least perceived to be by the people who actually buy camera gear for professional sports photography. No amount of auto focus improvement is going to change that.
Wildlife photographers are mainly hobbyists and OMD is mainly targetting them.
Nonsense?i had a Nikon J5 in 2015 that could do 20fps full C-AF, if it was that important to you then you would have owned one, my first Nikon 1 a full decade ago did 60 fps in full 12 bit raw....if you needed that you would have bought one, these threads just turn into nonsenseThis is so true. There are a couple of things that made me laugh a bit recently.I have no clue about that.
But I am sure that if they make a OMD1MkiV with AF that performs as well as Sony and Canon (and probably Nikon Z9) I will buy it ... and will be not the only one.
But forget about sport, the market is about amateur plus some professional wildlife photographers. The professional ones are rarer than the animals they photograph
Do not get me wrong I want OMD and Lumix to make nice compact innovative cameras but at present what they need is to survive, and I am sure that if they do a good job in developing a good videocentric camera (Lumix) and good nature photography camera (OMD) they can manage it. Some AI computational tricks could also do the job.
If they succeed then they can take care of the rest.
I continuously read here about the fact that the m43 sensors are old and need to be updated and bla bla... . But even a new sensor with the best image quality will be worst than 35 mm sensor and medium format (that is getting smaller and cheaper).
But on autofocus, focus stacking pro-captures need small sensor can offer a lot of advantages that for me are worth to continue to use m43 and no not regret the better IQ of the larger sensor, because I get shot I would not get with a larger camera or would just not be fun to get them but hard work (and I manly photograph for fun)
if not sadly m43 will be soon history and we will have not to worry about which will be the next camera
A family member was helping my family by shooting another family member's wedding and very recently picked up a Canon R5. He was talking about how amazed he was at the silent shutter and IBIS (and autofocus). I had a bit of an internal laugh, because those are benefits I have been enjoying for the last 10 years. (The Canon autofocus does look nice, though).
The latest flagship sports cameras from Nikon and Canon also made me snicker a bit. They are advertising 20fps. The used EM1 mkii I picked up can do 18fps with autofocus and 60fps with autofocus locked.
Now, those flagship cameras offer other advantages to justify their price (state if the art autofocus, higher resolution, lower noise in low light, etc.). My point is simply that micro 4/3 has offered some nice capability enabled by the smaller sensor speeds that full frame is just now matching. If they can continue to leverage that advantage and get their autofocus on par with Canon and Sony I think they will do ok.
For me it was important and I got the OMD1 Mkii in 2017, same purpose different choice
Still happy with the results but got a try to the new AF monsters and saw that they raised the bar a lot, So I hope that OMD and Lumix are going to catch up with the next camera.
If this happens I could find a reason to upgrade and waste some money in camera gear
If not I keep what I have until it works ... but this is not going to help to keep m43 alive
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Wu Jiaqiu
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we all want good cameras released as competition is good for everyone, it keeps the ball rolling, just buy and use what you enjoy, if it's your job use the best toolNonsense?i had a Nikon J5 in 2015 that could do 20fps full C-AF, if it was that important to you then you would have owned one, my first Nikon 1 a full decade ago did 60 fps in full 12 bit raw....if you needed that you would have bought one, these threads just turn into nonsenseThis is so true. There are a couple of things that made me laugh a bit recently.I have no clue about that.
But I am sure that if they make a OMD1MkiV with AF that performs as well as Sony and Canon (and probably Nikon Z9) I will buy it ... and will be not the only one.
But forget about sport, the market is about amateur plus some professional wildlife photographers. The professional ones are rarer than the animals they photograph
Do not get me wrong I want OMD and Lumix to make nice compact innovative cameras but at present what they need is to survive, and I am sure that if they do a good job in developing a good videocentric camera (Lumix) and good nature photography camera (OMD) they can manage it. Some AI computational tricks could also do the job.
If they succeed then they can take care of the rest.
I continuously read here about the fact that the m43 sensors are old and need to be updated and bla bla... . But even a new sensor with the best image quality will be worst than 35 mm sensor and medium format (that is getting smaller and cheaper).
But on autofocus, focus stacking pro-captures need small sensor can offer a lot of advantages that for me are worth to continue to use m43 and no not regret the better IQ of the larger sensor, because I get shot I would not get with a larger camera or would just not be fun to get them but hard work (and I manly photograph for fun)
if not sadly m43 will be soon history and we will have not to worry about which will be the next camera
A family member was helping my family by shooting another family member's wedding and very recently picked up a Canon R5. He was talking about how amazed he was at the silent shutter and IBIS (and autofocus). I had a bit of an internal laugh, because those are benefits I have been enjoying for the last 10 years. (The Canon autofocus does look nice, though).
The latest flagship sports cameras from Nikon and Canon also made me snicker a bit. They are advertising 20fps. The used EM1 mkii I picked up can do 18fps with autofocus and 60fps with autofocus locked.
Now, those flagship cameras offer other advantages to justify their price (state if the art autofocus, higher resolution, lower noise in low light, etc.). My point is simply that micro 4/3 has offered some nice capability enabled by the smaller sensor speeds that full frame is just now matching. If they can continue to leverage that advantage and get their autofocus on par with Canon and Sony I think they will do ok.
For me it was important and I got the OMD1 Mkii in 2017, same purpose different choice
Still happy with the results but got a try to the new AF monsters and saw that they raised the bar a lot, So I hope that OMD and Lumix are going to catch up with the next camera.
If this happens I could find a reason to upgrade and waste some money in camera gear
If not I keep what I have until it works ... but this is not going to help to keep m43 alive
Cafe Racer
Veteran Member
I would imagine closed mindedness wouldn't be the best recipe for success.
But I am sure that if they make a OMD1MkiV with AF that performs as well as Sony and Canon (and probably Nikon Z9) I will buy it ... and will be not the only one.
But forget about sport, the market is about amateur plus some professional wildlife photographers. The professional ones are rarer than the animals they photograph
Do not get me wrong I want OMD and Lumix to make nice compact innovative cameras but at present what they need is to survive, and I am sure that if they do a good job in developing a good videocentric camera (Lumix) and good nature photography camera (OMD) they can manage it. Some AI computational tricks could also do the job.
If they succeed then they can take care of the rest.
I continuously read here about the fact that the m43 sensors are old and need to be updated and bla bla... . But even a new sensor with the best image quality will be worst than 35 mm sensor and medium format (that is getting smaller and cheaper).
But on autofocus, focus stacking pro-captures need small sensor can offer a lot of advantages that for me are worth to continue to use m43 and no not regret the better IQ of the larger sensor, because I get shot I would not get with a larger camera or would just not be fun to get them but hard work (and I manly photograph for fun)
if not sadly m43 will be soon history and we will have not to worry about which will be the next camera
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How about "WOW, a really good camera that doesn't cost a fortune".
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