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I know most video first shooter prefer a fully rotating screen and a lot of photography first shooter hate it. but why I like the fully rotating screen to protect my screen more than anything else. but i would like to hear other opinions.
 
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I know most video first shooter prefer a fully rotating screen and a lot of photography first shooter hate it. but why I like the fully rotating screen to protect my screen more than anything else. but i would like to hear other opinions.
I like a fully rotating screen but I have my screens protected against scratches/ etc. IMHO :-)
 
Some current Fujifilm cameras use a tilt screen, while others use a fully articulated screen (FAS).

I can tell you that a very large majority of Fujifilm users on DPR (69.1%) prefer a tilt screen:


You will find that whole thread interesting.
 
I know most video first shooter prefer a fully rotating screen and a lot of photography first shooter hate it. but why I like the fully rotating screen to protect my screen more than anything else. but i would like to hear other opinions.
I don't think we will reach a conclusion on this topic. It is really a personal preference depending on shooting style. I personally like the fully articulated screen for both video and stills. It just fits the way I interact with my cameras and doesn't restrict me at all.
 
I currently am using both kind of LCD, the Fully Articulated Screen (FAS) and 2 variations of tilt LCD (90° up and 180° up).
  • For odd angle shooting, e.g. flower on the ground level or overhead shooting, FAS is great.
  • For selfie etc, 180° tilt LCD or FAS works.
  • For waist level shooting, or says shooting the ceiling, tilt LCD is much easier to use.
Hence, they are each good for individual application.

Regarding video, any LCD will do, more suitable than viewfinder.

Regarding fold inward for protection, it could be more common for DSLR shooters I think. For mirrorless, since a lot of operation/setting would be easier by touch LCD, an always available LCD could be needed.

Over last 16+ years shooting with cameras having LCD, none of them broken do far. Some had screen protector and some not. Protection is my least concern.
 
For my cameras fully articulated is a requirement so I can keep it turned in toward the body. If I just have to make a change in a setting on the screen it only takes a second to open for access and outside of that possibility there is no reason for me to have the screen facing outward. I only use the screen if required to make settings. Hopefully my camera will have a way to make all common settings like shutter speed, aperture, iso, manal/auto, af/mf available without needing the screen.
 
As a portrait and people photographer I do a lot of verticals. The fully articulated screens work much better for me. They work for vertical and horizontal. I had a Sony years ago that tilted both ways. That worked pretty well, but overall I like articulated.

And now and then I want to do a selfie, mostly for lighting tests, so it is nice to be able to see what I'm doing even if just for tests.

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As Albert, I use both kinds of screens.

My everyday-use cameras have a tilt screen.

My Panasonic GX8 has the fully articulating screen which is useful when in vertical orientation. Common situations are when I'm watching shoreline birds, waiting for them to turn for a nice pose.



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I don't like the way the fully articulating screen sticks out and messes with my neck strap, but I still prefer it for the way it facilitates overhead and ground-level vertical shots, especially the latter. At 73 I no longer wish to shoot wildflowers while lying on the ground or repeatedly squat deeply, shoot and stand up again.
 
I strongly dislike fully articulating screens. I still use my Panasonic G9 because of its other features, but the FAS is a constant source of frustration and definitely the worst thing about the camera. If there was a tilt screen special edition of the G9 for an extra $1000 then I'd buy that without hesitation.

I primarily use the screen rather than the EVF. That means I end up with the FAS stuck out the side most of the time, otherwise I'm constantly flipping it out and back whenever I want to take a shot.

For me the main disadvantages of a fully articulated screen are: the stuck out screen getting in the way, loss of touch screen functionality, the extra steps when switching between screen and EVF, the increased problem of glare from the sun, and how awkward it makes holding the camera at a low angle.

I shoot a lot of macro, sometimes poking the camera into undergrowth or trying to get unusual angles close to subjects. Having a screen sticking out and practically doubling the width of the camera can make life more difficult. It's also a fairly fragile part of the camera to have sticking out while carrying it.

I love being able to quickly set the focus point using the touch screen. I find tapping the screen much faster than using a D-pad or joystick to move the point around. On a tilt screen that's always within reach of my thumb, while a screen stuck out the side isn't so easily accessible.

Tilt screen are obviously quicker to deploy than a screen that has to be swung out to the side. I can adjust the angle of the tilt screen while still keeping my hands on the lens/controls. The tilt screen cameras I've used automatically disable the EVF eye sensor when the screen is tilted, or at least provide enough of a gap that it isn't accidentally activated. I can tilt the screen for a low level shot, then simply push the screen flat with my thumb if I do want to use the EVF again. With my G9 the eye sensor needs to be manually deactivated or it constantly switches to the EVF when I'm trying to use the screen.

Having the screen tilted behind the body of the camera solves the issue of sun glare in most situations. Between my body/head leaning over the camera, my hands to the side of it, and the body of the camera itself, the tilt screen is pretty well shaded from the sun 99% of the time. A screen stuck out the side of the camera is often washed out with glare in the same situation.

I take a lot of shots at low level, especially when shooing macro/wildlife. Even if my knees didn't complain when getting back up again, I'd rather not go lying in the dirt if I can help it. With a tilt screen I can keep a comfortable stabilising grip on the lens even when crouching down and holding it at ground level. I can't see any way of doing the same when using a camera with a screen stuck out the side. To avoid blocking the FAS while supporting the lens from above, I have to hold my arm out to the side at an awkward angle. It just makes that kind of shooting slower and less comfortable, requiring a faster shutter speed to compensate for worse stability.

Obviously a fully articulating screen does have advantages, e.g. when shooting vertically, but for me the advantages of a tilt screen massively outweigh the extra FAS flexibility.
 
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Some current Fujifilm cameras use a tilt screen, while others use a fully articulated screen (FAS).

I can tell you that a very large majority of Fujifilm users on DPR (69.1%) prefer a tilt screen:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4603518

You will find that whole thread interesting.
Interesting poll. If anything it shows even more of a majority than 69% in favour of tilting functionality.

Around 16% voted for a conventional fully articulated screen, one person (0.5%) wanted a fixed screen, and the other 83% or so were all for some form of tilting/hybrid design.

Personally I just want a screen that can tilt without sticking out, so any of the hybrid design they mention from Fuji, Panasonic, or Pentax would be just fine.
 
Some current Fujifilm cameras use a tilt screen, while others use a fully articulated screen (FAS).

I can tell you that a very large majority of Fujifilm users on DPR (69.1%) prefer a tilt screen:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4603518

You will find that whole thread interesting.
Interesting poll. If anything it shows even more of a majority than 69% in favour of tilting functionality.

Around 16% voted for a conventional fully articulated screen, one person (0.5%) wanted a fixed screen, and the other 83% or so were all for some form of tilting/hybrid design.

Personally I just want a screen that can tilt without sticking out, so any of the hybrid design they mention from Fuji, Panasonic, or Pentax would be just fine.
Which Panasonic has a hybrid design?
 
I still prefer FAS because I shoot lots of vertical. But I agree with all the criticism and add one: an L bracket interferes and to have to screw on the vertical member when needed is very fiddly. I never got to try one of the Sony SLTs or Fuji's cams with a two axis tilt solution but it seems like the best of both worlds. Unfortunately m43 has only tilt and FAS. A wearable display is my dream. What's taking so long?
 
Some current Fujifilm cameras use a tilt screen, while others use a fully articulated screen (FAS).

I can tell you that a very large majority of Fujifilm users on DPR (69.1%) prefer a tilt screen:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4603518

You will find that whole thread interesting.
Interesting poll. If anything it shows even more of a majority than 69% in favour of tilting functionality.

Around 16% voted for a conventional fully articulated screen, one person (0.5%) wanted a fixed screen, and the other 83% or so were all for some form of tilting/hybrid design.

Personally I just want a screen that can tilt without sticking out, so any of the hybrid design they mention from Fuji, Panasonic, or Pentax would be just fine.
Which Panasonic has a hybrid design?
Their S1H and S1R full frame cameras each have different hybrid designs. The S1R has a 3-way tilt like some Fuji models, while the S1H can either tilt or flip out to the side. I'm not sure about the other models.
 
I currently am using both kind of LCD, the Fully Articulated Screen (FAS) and 2 variations of tilt LCD (90° up and 180° up).
  • For odd angle shooting, e.g. flower on the ground level or overhead shooting, FAS is great.
  • For selfie etc, 180° tilt LCD or FAS works.
  • For waist level shooting, or says shooting the ceiling, tilt LCD is much easier to use.
That depends on how you implement the fully articulated screen. That Sony a99 has a screen which can fold down, or can sit above the viewfinder hump, but it also articulates to accommodate portrait mode.

I don't know why Sony don't use the same design on the E-mount cameras.
Hence, they are each good for individual application.

Regarding video, any LCD will do, more suitable than viewfinder.

Regarding fold inward for protection, it could be more common for DSLR shooters I think. For mirrorless, since a lot of operation/setting would be easier by touch LCD, an always available LCD could be needed.

Over last 16+ years shooting with cameras having LCD, none of them broken do far. Some had screen protector and some not. Protection is my least concern.
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I know most video first shooter prefer a fully rotating screen and a lot of photography first shooter hate it. but why I like the fully rotating screen to protect my screen more than anything else. but i would like to hear other opinions.
I prefer a tiltable screen as I mainly use it for shooting low or at waist level. Where it is usually more convenient with a screen that is centered on the lens.
 

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