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The tables sure have turned. When shooting Canon DSLR, it was just a given that any good third party lens would be in EF mount. Now that is true of Sony for mirrorless, and Canon gets nothing. I guess I know how all the Pentax people have felt all these years.

Hard not to be jealous of this 35-150mm f2-2.8 zoom that was announced:

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Add it to the list of Tamron mirrorless lenses I wish I could use on a Canon:
  • 17-28mm f2.8 = 420g FF f2.8 UWA
  • 20mm f2.8 1:2 macro = cheap and light UWA prime
  • 28-75mm f2.8 = small, light and cheap f2.8 zoom. Never going to see one from Canon
  • 70-300mm = 540g lightweight telephoto.
Hope they figure out RF compatibility soon.
 
tkbslc said:
The tables sure have turned. When shooting Canon DSLR, it was just a given that any good third party lens would be in EF mount. Now that is true of Sony for mirrorless, and Canon gets nothing. I guess I know how all the Pentax people have felt all these years.

Hard not to be jealous of this 35-150mm f2-2.8 zoom that was announced:

https://www.dpreview.com/news/76967...ii-vxd-for-full-frame-sony-e-mount-on-the-way

Add it to the list of Tamron mirrorless lenses I wish I could use on a Canon:
  • 17-28mm f2.8 = 420g FF f2.8 UWA
  • 20mm f2.8 1:2 macro = cheap and light UWA prime
  • 28-75mm f2.8 = small, light and cheap f2.8 zoom. Never going to see one from Canon
  • 70-300mm = 540g lightweight telephoto.
Hope they figure out RF compatibility soon.
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The 35-150mm is almost interesting but, no 24mm means switching lenses a lot still. Would have been more impressed with a 24-105 f/2-2.8.
 
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wats0n said:
I really don’t understand why there is so many third party lenses for Sony. Sony sells so poorly that overstocks of the A7II and A6000 are still available.
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Those are not necessarily overstocks. Sony intentionally keeps previous generation models in their production line-up instead of coming out with lower end models. Fuji is doing the same now by keeping the X-T3 in production even though the X-T4 is out.
 
DigitalAmnesia said:
tkbslc said:
The tables sure have turned. When shooting Canon DSLR, it was just a given that any good third party lens would be in EF mount. Now that is true of Sony for mirrorless, and Canon gets nothing. I guess I know how all the Pentax people have felt all these years.

Hard not to be jealous of this 35-150mm f2-2.8 zoom that was announced:

https://www.dpreview.com/news/76967...ii-vxd-for-full-frame-sony-e-mount-on-the-way

Add it to the list of Tamron mirrorless lenses I wish I could use on a Canon:
  • 17-28mm f2.8 = 420g FF f2.8 UWA
  • 20mm f2.8 1:2 macro = cheap and light UWA prime
  • 28-75mm f2.8 = small, light and cheap f2.8 zoom. Never going to see one from Canon
  • 70-300mm = 540g lightweight telephoto.
Hope they figure out RF compatibility soon.
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The 35-150mm is almost interesting but, no 24mm means switching lenses a lot still. Would have been more impressed with a 24-105 f/2-2.8.
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My most usual setup is the 16-35 / 4L IS on my R and the 35-150 / 2.8-4 VC on my 6D2. Thus, the lack of overlap is a non-issue.

Ideally, I'll have an RF 15-35 / 4L IS on my R and the 35-150 / 2-2.8 on an IBIS RF body. I'd rarely be switching lenses.
 
Great Bustard said:
DigitalAmnesia said:
tkbslc said:
The tables sure have turned. When shooting Canon DSLR, it was just a given that any good third party lens would be in EF mount. Now that is true of Sony for mirrorless, and Canon gets nothing. I guess I know how all the Pentax people have felt all these years.

Hard not to be jealous of this 35-150mm f2-2.8 zoom that was announced:

https://www.dpreview.com/news/76967...ii-vxd-for-full-frame-sony-e-mount-on-the-way

Add it to the list of Tamron mirrorless lenses I wish I could use on a Canon:
  • 17-28mm f2.8 = 420g FF f2.8 UWA
  • 20mm f2.8 1:2 macro = cheap and light UWA prime
  • 28-75mm f2.8 = small, light and cheap f2.8 zoom. Never going to see one from Canon
  • 70-300mm = 540g lightweight telephoto.
Hope they figure out RF compatibility soon.
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The 35-150mm is almost interesting but, no 24mm means switching lenses a lot still. Would have been more impressed with a 24-105 f/2-2.8.
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My most usual setup is the 16-35 / 4L IS on my R and the 35-150 / 2.8-4 VC on my 6D2. Thus, the lack of overlap is a non-issue.

Ideally, I'll have an RF 15-35 / 4L IS on my R and the 35-150 / 2-2.8 on an IBIS RF body. I'd rarely be switching lenses.
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It's a nice general purpose lens for nature or portrait sessions for sure.
 
Some already are making third party lenses.

Like Laowa; really amazing stuff in unique focal lengths. Like a 11mm rectilinear that takes lens filters (as opposed to rear filters). https://phillipreeve.net/blog/review-laowa-11mm-4-5-ff-rl/#Conclusion

Or a 15mm F2.

Of course they're manual, but when that wide, and on a mirrorless, not much of an issue for some uses.

I'm not sure I"m going to pay for reverse engineered lenses for RF. Canon has been doing a lot of firmware updates, and I'd hate to have one bork a lens.
 
wats0n said:
I really don’t understand why there is so many third party lenses for Sony. Sony sells so poorly that overstocks of the A7II and A6000 are still available.
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Sony sells so poorly? no wonder you said you don't understand why so many 3rd party lenses for the system.

I am multiple system user and love 3rd party supports, all my favorite lens for the Sony system is actually not made by Sony but by Voigtlander and Zeiss, I have 6 of those and a few Sigma and few Samyang, in fact it's all those Voigtlander and Zeiss Primes keeping me in Sony system even I absolutely hate Sony body, I really wish Voigtlander and Zeiss start making lenses for R and Z system soon.
 
wats0n said:
I really don’t understand why there is so many third party lenses for Sony.
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Because they opened up mount specifications to 3rd party manufacturers. Manufacturers can get the specs by signing a NDA and don't have to reverse engineer or guess - which means their R&D is not at risk
wats0n said:
Sony sells so poorly that overstocks of the A7II and A6000 are still available.
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No, that's you simply not understanding sony's operating model. Instead of discontinuing old models, they just depreciate the bodies to fill the entry level spot
 
tkbslc said:
The tables sure have turned. When shooting Canon DSLR, it was just a given that any good third party lens would be in EF mount. Now that is true of Sony for mirrorless, and Canon gets nothing. I guess I know how all the Pentax people have felt all these years.

Hard not to be jealous of this 35-150mm f2-2.8 zoom that was announced:

https://www.dpreview.com/news/76967...ii-vxd-for-full-frame-sony-e-mount-on-the-way

Add it to the list of Tamron mirrorless lenses I wish I could use on a Canon:
  • 17-28mm f2.8 = 420g FF f2.8 UWA
  • 20mm f2.8 1:2 macro = cheap and light UWA prime
  • 28-75mm f2.8 = small, light and cheap f2.8 zoom. Never going to see one from Canon
  • 70-300mm = 540g lightweight telephoto.
Hope they figure out RF compatibility soon.
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That would be nice, but I would be as pleased as punch just to have a guarantee that the 3rd-party lenses will be compatible as EF lenses for all R bodies going forward. Too many of my older 3rd-party lenses have limitations or errors with my newer Canon bodies, like the wrong focal length for added IBIS.
 
I've been using the Tamron 35-150mm 2.8-4 for two years now. Purchased it originally for my 5DMIV and now I'm using it adapted on R bodies. Yes that 2 to 2.8 could be something else especially if it doesn't increase the heft and weight. Tamron as previously commented here is partly owned by Sony so that kind of explains it.

Let's see how the tide starts to shift as Canon has started throwing serious punches in the mirrorless FF market. I hope Sigma and Samyang plays "more fairly" than Tamron's exuberance towards the Sony brand that sits in their boardroom anyway.
 
Great Bustard said:
DigitalAmnesia said:
tkbslc said:
The tables sure have turned. When shooting Canon DSLR, it was just a given that any good third party lens would be in EF mount. Now that is true of Sony for mirrorless, and Canon gets nothing. I guess I know how all the Pentax people have felt all these years.

Hard not to be jealous of this 35-150mm f2-2.8 zoom that was announced:

https://www.dpreview.com/news/76967...ii-vxd-for-full-frame-sony-e-mount-on-the-way

Add it to the list of Tamron mirrorless lenses I wish I could use on a Canon:
  • 17-28mm f2.8 = 420g FF f2.8 UWA
  • 20mm f2.8 1:2 macro = cheap and light UWA prime
  • 28-75mm f2.8 = small, light and cheap f2.8 zoom. Never going to see one from Canon
  • 70-300mm = 540g lightweight telephoto.
Hope they figure out RF compatibility soon.
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The 35-150mm is almost interesting but, no 24mm means switching lenses a lot still. Would have been more impressed with a 24-105 f/2-2.8.
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My most usual setup is the 16-35 / 4L IS on my R and the 35-150 / 2.8-4 VC on my 6D2. Thus, the lack of overlap is a non-issue.

Ideally, I'll have an RF 15-35 / 4L IS on my R and the 35-150 / 2-2.8 on an IBIS RF body. I'd rarely be switching lenses.
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I have a very similar set up. 16-35mm, 35-100mm and 100-400mm. That covers 16 to 400 which is quite broad on three lenses, when I used to be at 16-35mm, 24-70mm and 70-200mm.
 
Blokfluitist said:
BirdShooter7 said:
cnyphotoguy said:
Telling Tamron would be more impactful, TAMRON | Contact Tamron (tamron-usa.com)
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Sometimes talking about it is cathartic. I also hope third party RF lenses will start to appear soon. I don’t think I need to tell Tamron about it, I’m sure they want to be able to prove RF lenses even more than I want them to.
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3rd party RF lenses are already available...
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There are three ways such can exist:
  1. RF mount, but like an EF lens that happens to have the adapter built in.
  2. RF mount, optics that take advantage of the shallower chamber, but still EF electronically.
  3. RF mount, optics that take advantage of the shallower chamber, and RF electronically.
 
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