R2D2
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Just give me ONE manual mode.
Aperture Priority would be just fine!
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Aperture Priority would be just fine!
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New Sony DSC-T1
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Luis Romero
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I was completely decided to buy Casio's Z4 but now that I see this one I'm really tempted. The only thing is that Z4 is around $400 while T1 is $550!! I'll be in Hong Kong in 15 days and T1 will be available then, I'm not sure if its worthy, its 550 plus 150 of the new MS so its $700 already.
What do you say, is it too expensive? or is it worth the money?
What do you say, is it too expensive? or is it worth the money?
Dont forget to look at the Konica/Minolta G400. announced, but not released yet, but should be soon. Pretty close in size, althought just a hair bigger. Is 4mp, suppose to be very fast response times in opening, focusing and closing. lcd is smaller, but also has apeture priority. While I was going to buy the Optio S4 or the Casio EX-Z4, now I am waiting for reviews to come out on both and will probably choose between the DSC T1 and the G400.
Gene Miller77510
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I will not debate the virtues of cameras like the G400 because that is not the main reason for all these small cameras. It is the size and the ease that these P&S cameras will find their appeal. The less features, the smaller, the more mass appeal. I think like the camera you mentioned, the G400, and cameras slightly larger, like the V1 with full features, will and have found a market. But never-the-less, such a sophisticated small simple 5mp camera like the newly annouced T1 will find even a larger market if the picture quality lives up to the hype. It is competition that has lead Sony to produce such a tiny camera to be competitive with Minolta, Casio and Canon. I think Sony again has set new standards in tiny type cameras, the same as they have done with the pending release of the F828. We will have to wait to see if all these new innovations will give us the quality featured photo equipment that some of us are looking for. I think it will.
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Life is just a stage and we all have enough pictures to proof it!
Gene Miller77510
Veteran Member
That's progress. Sometimes it hurts. ;-)
Life is just a stage and we all have enough pictures to proof it!
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Life is just a stage and we all have enough pictures to proof it!
Gene Miller77510
Veteran Member
I understand what you are asking for, but I think the majority of buyers for the T1 could care less, and probably would like it to be completely automatic with a super smart scene mode. Hey that's what Sony is promising. How could you ask for anything more? ;-)
Life is just a stage and we all have enough pictures to proof it!
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Life is just a stage and we all have enough pictures to proof it!
Gene Miller77510
Veteran Member
Cameras like the T1 will find their own street price based on competition. These photographic toys are only too expensive if you cannot afford them. If you can afford them, then the value of it only means something to you.
For myself a dSLR would be a waste of money, so would the new F828. To me the V1 had value and love it and use it. The annoucement of the T1, if it lives up to the hype, will have even a greater value for me. Have fun shopping.
Life is just a stage and we all have enough pictures to proof it!
For myself a dSLR would be a waste of money, so would the new F828. To me the V1 had value and love it and use it. The annoucement of the T1, if it lives up to the hype, will have even a greater value for me. Have fun shopping.
--What do you say, is it too expensive? or is it worth the money?
Life is just a stage and we all have enough pictures to proof it!
R2D2
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But I'll let them have the scene modes too. Just let me turn that little dial to the "A" mode. Pleeeez.
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Gene Miller77510
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I feel for you, but I think Sony already cast the die. Maybe next time or maybe when the full specs are released it may surprise us all.
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R2D2
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I know. (Big sigh).
I just hope that the "scene" modes will let me have enough control.
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I just hope that the "scene" modes will let me have enough control.
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Mike Fitzgerald
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IMO decent manual options are something that the recent crop of sub-compacts is screaming for. They are not longer just P&S toys, some of them now becoming such excellent, serious photographic tools that I now see this lack as holding them back in a big way. The fact that the T1 provides a spot metering option and a live histogram does plenty to raise it above the traditional P&S perception.
I dunno if the T1 has an EV bias adjustment, but the EX-Z3 (live histogram too) has this and it can be assigned to the left-right rocker buttons to make it instantly accessible. Aperture priority is then all that would be needed to give you any combination you want. The crazy thing is it's almost entirely software, after all !!
Mike
I dunno if the T1 has an EV bias adjustment, but the EX-Z3 (live histogram too) has this and it can be assigned to the left-right rocker buttons to make it instantly accessible. Aperture priority is then all that would be needed to give you any combination you want. The crazy thing is it's almost entirely software, after all !!
Mike
The new Konica-Minolta G400 has apeture priority. Should be released soon. I am considering the T1 aned G400. I do like the many scene modes of the T1, though the apeture priority of the G400 is nice too. There is never one camera that has everything you want.
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Ulysses
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These days, usually the Scene modes do a much better job than they did in the past. Even very advanced cameras and dSLR cameras have scene modes. They're much more intelligent than they were in past cameras.
These are tiny consumer cameras. They want most people to like them and use them.
Ulysses
These are tiny consumer cameras. They want most people to like them and use them.
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Gene Miller77510
Veteran Member
I guess EV adjustments would give some additional control to a P&S camera without adding complications for the masses. I think the T1 should have that feature, but I do not know.
Life is just a stage and we all have enough pictures to proof it!
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Life is just a stage and we all have enough pictures to proof it!
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Ulysses
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http://www.sony.jp/products/Consumer/DSC/DSC-T1/spec.html
The Japanese page specs seem to indicate that it has adjustable EV comp.
But who knows. The Japanese Canon specs page was wrong about a couple of things with regard to their cameras.
Ulysses
The Japanese page specs seem to indicate that it has adjustable EV comp.
But who knows. The Japanese Canon specs page was wrong about a couple of things with regard to their cameras.
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Gene Miller77510
Veteran Member
From looking at their specs of the T1, at least the specs I could understand that is, the camera looks like it will be more powerful than I thought. I will be looking forward to it. Right now I keep busy with this forum and playing XBox Live with my son in Arizona. We got Top Spin so we now play tennis on line. We also play Crimson Skies. Of course that's at night and during the day when I am out, I play at using my camera. All these toys just make my golden years full of fun. Life for us all should be full of happiness but is also filled with sorrow, pain, and illnesses. It is also much too short not to have fun while you still can. Thanks for posting that info and take care.
Life is just a stage and we all have enough pictures to proof it!
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Life is just a stage and we all have enough pictures to proof it!
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Ulysses
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Hi there, Gene
Yes, dealing with health issues of my own as well as that of my own parents and those of my wife's parents really does emphasize that we all long for solutions to common problems such as health, financial, and other issues.
But remaining connected with people and with family goes a long way towards the positive attitude that we need, and gives us the necessary energy to take care of really important matters as well.
Ulysses
Yes, dealing with health issues of my own as well as that of my own parents and those of my wife's parents really does emphasize that we all long for solutions to common problems such as health, financial, and other issues.
But remaining connected with people and with family goes a long way towards the positive attitude that we need, and gives us the necessary energy to take care of really important matters as well.
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Gene Miller77510
Veteran Member
Hi Uly,
I look at life as a trip through time and I am enjoying the trip. It is sad when I find people that just lets time pass. The other part that you talked about is what we all face. I feel for you, because I have been through it like many my age. It is how we cope with the ying and yang that life deals us. I keep my life full of love and joy. I have learned to wipe away the tears and fill it with laughter and keep a good sense of humor. Photography on the level that I am on now is pure fun.
I hope that things for you will stabilize somewhat and let you enjoy more time with your love ones. Your postive memories will take you into the future. Sometimes old photos are a two way sword, giving both joy and pain at the same time. But photos shared, are moments of joy for all of us. Take care.
Life is just a stage and we all have enough pictures to proof it!
I look at life as a trip through time and I am enjoying the trip. It is sad when I find people that just lets time pass. The other part that you talked about is what we all face. I feel for you, because I have been through it like many my age. It is how we cope with the ying and yang that life deals us. I keep my life full of love and joy. I have learned to wipe away the tears and fill it with laughter and keep a good sense of humor. Photography on the level that I am on now is pure fun.
I hope that things for you will stabilize somewhat and let you enjoy more time with your love ones. Your postive memories will take you into the future. Sometimes old photos are a two way sword, giving both joy and pain at the same time. But photos shared, are moments of joy for all of us. Take care.
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Life is just a stage and we all have enough pictures to proof it!
Sony hasn´t set any standards yet on this matter... The camera is very similar to Minolta Xt, the LCD, 5 megapixels and video mode being the biggest difference. There´s nothing really new and image quality and performance remains to be seen until the reviews come out. And I personally don´t care at ALL what kind of a market the camera finds, I only want a camera that really works for me. Don´t care about popularity...
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Ulysses
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And now you know the reason for my boisterous and patented Bahah...!!©'s
Yes. And it ought to be. Even when one turns pro and shoots for $$$, if it's not fun, then it's not of much good either.
You know how it is: Some things you can do something about, and others you can't. But spending time with people you love, THAT you can always do something about. I find people enriching. Though I have a very busy schedule and lifestyle, I'm constantly trying to find more meaningful time with people.
To that end, photography is more of a vehicle to do that, as well as just enjoying the field myself. It's a combo that seems to be working for me even better than in the past simply because I'm becoming bolder about sharing my work with others.
A very nice exchange, Gene. Take care.
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