jonathanblanchflower
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I'm thinking compared to the Sony 20 1.8, which has around two stops more depth control and seems to be a pretty similar price.
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Why is the 14 2.8 so expensive?
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Bobo Hodls
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I don't know about that comparison, but in the cobwebs of my mind I think there's something about it being excellent as far as optical correction goes (for a 21mm equiv. WA lens). And it's quite the solid build.
guitarjeff
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They just need to watch out for competition from their own line. I just got the little 15-45 XC for 150 dollars and at 15mm that little dude looks as sharp as the 14mm shots I have seen. I have only taken it out once so far so Ill get better with it as I go but so far I am pleased for so little money
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You're paying for an excellent lens. And UWA lenses don't sell in the numbers that say 18, 23, and 35mm primes and kit zooms do.
The 20mm Sony is an excellent lens too and yes it's faster (by 1+1/3 stops), but it is also a more expensive excellent lens - at least here in Australia. Is it more expensive by 1+1/3 stops? - I don't know. It's a bit hard to compare across brands.
I don't think Fuji were motivated in designing the 14mm by subject separation in UWA images. It's a bit of a niche taste. If they had been, they'd have gone for a faster aperture. Fuji went for excellent optics in a very portable package. Most people use UWAs for landscapes, architecture, interiors and extreme depth shots - all uses that call for stopped down apertures.
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You're paying for an excellent lens. And UWA lenses don't sell in the numbers that say 18, 23, and 35mm primes and kit zooms do.
The 20mm Sony is an excellent lens too and yes it's faster (by 1+1/3 stops), but it is also a more expensive excellent lens - at least here in Australia. Is it more expensive by 1+1/3 stops? - I don't know. It's a bit hard to compare across brands.
I don't think Fuji were motivated in designing the 14mm by subject separation in UWA images. It's a bit of a niche taste. If they had been, they'd have gone for a faster aperture. Fuji went for excellent optics in a very portable package. Most people use UWAs for landscapes, architecture, interiors and extreme depth shots - all uses that call for stopped down apertures.
Regards, Rod
"The produced distortion of the Fujinon is possibly the biggest surprise in this review - it has almost none (0.4% barrel distortion). This is also valid for the RAW data so there's no active auto-correction necessary here."
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jonathanblanchflower
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i'm sure they weren't interested in subject separation, and I can certainly understand them valuing portability over giving people more control over that, as it is hardly a feature that most general use-cases for such a lens demand. Regardless, I'm still surprised that the price difference, at least in the U.S, is pretty negligable, and very often the Sony's is cheaper than the fujifilm. I know there is a premium on fuji products generally and I'm fine with that, but this lens sticks out in particular as one that seems hugely overpriced considering specs. I just find it a bit confusing!
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I've looked at the 15-45 for this very reason-heard it's really superb for the price
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They just need to watch out for competition from their own line. I just got the little 15-45 XC for 150 dollars and at 15mm that little dude looks as sharp as the 14mm shots I have seen. I have only taken it out once so far so Ill get better with it as I go but so far I am pleased for so little money
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I've read the optical limits review before- I'm not oblivious to how impressive having such a small amount of distortion from such a lens is, but is that really why it is so expensive? Obviously not singularly, but certainly a fundamental reason?"The produced distortion of the Fujinon is possibly the biggest surprise in this review - it has almost none (0.4% barrel distortion). This is also valid for the RAW data so there's no active auto-correction necessary here."
https://opticallimits.com/fuji_x/807-fuji14f28?start=1
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Maybe I just don't know enough about offerings at this focal range. It just seems to me that a 21mm f4.2 ff equiv (in terms of DoF control) lens shouldn't be costing the same as a 20mm 1.8 that apparently makes few optical sacrifices itself.
Fair enough, but let me just say that I had the 14/2.8 - and then sold it. F2.8 ... pfffft ... not compelling to keep. Bu then I had second thought about it when I used the Tokina 20/2,0 and found the 14/2.8 to be quite a bit better.I've read the optical limits review before- I'm not oblivious to how impressive having such a small amount of distortion from such a lens is, but is that really why it is so expensive? Obviously not singularly, but certainly a fundamental reason?"The produced distortion of the Fujinon is possibly the biggest surprise in this review - it has almost none (0.4% barrel distortion). This is also valid for the RAW data so there's no active auto-correction necessary here."
https://opticallimits.com/fuji_x/807-fuji14f28?start=1
Tongariro Crossing 2013 X-E1
Chiang Rai 2018 X-T20
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Maybe I just don't know enough about offerings at this focal range. It just seems to me that a 21mm f4.2 ff equiv (in terms of DoF control) lens shouldn't be costing the same as a 20mm 1.8 that apparently makes few optical sacrifices itself.
X-T2 + 14/2.8 Mt Victoria 2019
Since the Firin 20/2.0 pics were nothing to write home about I then used the 24/1.4 G-Master on the A7III:
SONY A7III + 24/1.4 Mt Victoria 2019
Same morning. Ignore the sky for a minute and just focus on the buildings.
The 24/1.4 was 3x the price of the Fuji here in NZ by the way.
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Stellar optic performance with little distortion and superior corner sharpness. The lens is lightweight and also has the push/pull clutch focusing. Lastly, it has a depth of field guidance on the lens.
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ok, understood (apart from being lightweight, which doesn't strike me as a predictor of lens price, in spite of it obviously being desirable)
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i'm sorry- on my phone I'm not sure how to download the full sized images. I'm assuming your point is the 14 2.8 has more detail in this photo? I'm definitely not arguing against the fact that it's a great lens!Fair enough, but let me just say that I had the 14/2.8 - and then sold it. F2.8 ... pfffft ... not compelling to keep. Bu then I had second thought about it when I used the Tokina 20/2,0 and found the 14/2.8 to be quite a bit better.I've read the optical limits review before- I'm not oblivious to how impressive having such a small amount of distortion from such a lens is, but is that really why it is so expensive? Obviously not singularly, but certainly a fundamental reason?"The produced distortion of the Fujinon is possibly the biggest surprise in this review - it has almost none (0.4% barrel distortion). This is also valid for the RAW data so there's no active auto-correction necessary here."
https://opticallimits.com/fuji_x/807-fuji14f28?start=1
Tongariro Crossing 2013 X-E1
Chiang Rai 2018 X-T20
Deed
Maybe I just don't know enough about offerings at this focal range. It just seems to me that a 21mm f4.2 ff equiv (in terms of DoF control) lens shouldn't be costing the same as a 20mm 1.8 that apparently makes few optical sacrifices itself.
X-T2 + 14/2.8 Mt Victoria 2019
Since the Firin 20/2.0 pics were nothing to write home about I then used the 24/1.4 G-Master on the A7III:
SONY A7III + 24/1.4 Mt Victoria 2019
Same morning. Ignore the sky for a minute and just focus on the buildings.
The 24/1.4 was 3x the price of the Fuji here in NZ by the way.
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a_c_skinner
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A lot of people who hate the power zoom say they simply use it as a 15mm lens at which it works well.
biza43
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Because it is a very good lens.
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Lucky your not buying the Nikon 14mm f2.8
it’s double the price of the Fuji lens.
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it’s double the price of the Fuji lens.
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a_c_skinner
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I may be about to invent a new branch of the equivalence debate - price. Interestingly it looks a bit less than a stop more costly, working on a factor of 2. Of course on crop alone, 1.5x it does seem more costly.
jonathanblanchflower
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ahah- well, I'm buying neither - will wait to see what viltrox do. heard that they've got a 13 mm in the pipeline.Lucky your not buying the Nikon 14mm f2.8
it’s double the price of the Fuji lens.
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This is a full frame lens too, no? so a pretty significantly different fov?
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A 14mm lens is a 14mm lens, you shouldn't be comparing it with a 20mm, FF or otherwise. The manufacting of a 14mm lens that is well corrected will always be more expensive than a 20mm lens.I've read the optical limits review before- I'm not oblivious to how impressive having such a small amount of distortion from such a lens is, but is that really why it is so expensive? Obviously not singularly, but certainly a fundamental reason?"The produced distortion of the Fujinon is possibly the biggest surprise in this review - it has almost none (0.4% barrel distortion). This is also valid for the RAW data so there's no active auto-correction necessary here."
https://opticallimits.com/fuji_x/807-fuji14f28?start=1
Tongariro Crossing 2013 X-E1
Chiang Rai 2018 X-T20
Deed
Maybe I just don't know enough about offerings at this focal range. It just seems to me that a 21mm f4.2 ff equiv (in terms of DoF control) lens shouldn't be costing the same as a 20mm 1.8 that apparently makes few optical sacrifices itself.
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