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Its $3.42 billion in Q4 total revenue was 14% more than what the company posted in the same period last year. Its total sales for the full 2020 fiscal year were up 15% to $12.87 billion. Much of that sales momentum was driven by the Digital Media business, which includes Photoshop and Lightroom. That section itself brought in $2.15 of that $3.42 billion and represents a 20% year-over-year increase.
 
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I assume this is a rhetorical question?
 
irv00 said:
https://petapixel.com/2020/12/11/as-adobes-earnings-soar-it-plans-to-invest-further-in-a-i-editing/

Its $3.42 billion in Q4 total revenue was 14% more than what the company posted in the same period last year. Its total sales for the full 2020 fiscal year were up 15% to $12.87 billion. Much of that sales momentum was driven by the Digital Media business, which includes Photoshop and Lightroom. That section itself brought in $2.15 of that $3.42 billion and represents a 20% year-over-year increase.
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Now, I have to believe that the zillions of posts I have seen in this and other forums from disgruntled Adobe customers and disgruntled former Adobe customers saying the subscription plan is going to kill Adobe must be more correct than the above article. Why would so many people in these forums keep saying the same thing over and over again if it wasn't true?

Speaking as one of the few non-disgruntled Adobe customers (does that make me "gruntled"?), from reading all the forums I expect Adobe to go out of business soon, and that will settle the matter.

Or maybe I don't mean any of the above, and am trying to say that the Adobe discontents were always just making stuff up ... you decide.
 
dj_paige said:
irv00 said:
https://petapixel.com/2020/12/11/as-adobes-earnings-soar-it-plans-to-invest-further-in-a-i-editing/

Its $3.42 billion in Q4 total revenue was 14% more than what the company posted in the same period last year. Its total sales for the full 2020 fiscal year were up 15% to $12.87 billion. Much of that sales momentum was driven by the Digital Media business, which includes Photoshop and Lightroom. That section itself brought in $2.15 of that $3.42 billion and represents a 20% year-over-year increase.
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Now, I have to believe that the zillions of posts I have seen in this and other forums from disgruntled Adobe customers and disgruntled former Adobe customers saying the subscription plan is going to kill Adobe must be more correct than the above article. Why would so many people in these forums keep saying the same thing over and over again if it wasn't true?

Speaking as one of the few non-disgruntled Adobe customers (does that make me "gruntled"?), from reading all the forums I expect Adobe to go out of business soon, and that will settle the matter.

Or maybe I don't mean any of the above, and am trying to say that the Adobe discontents were always just making stuff up ... you decide.
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Second one, your gruntledness
 
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irv00 said:
dj_paige said:
irv00 said:
https://petapixel.com/2020/12/11/as-adobes-earnings-soar-it-plans-to-invest-further-in-a-i-editing/

Its $3.42 billion in Q4 total revenue was 14% more than what the company posted in the same period last year. Its total sales for the full 2020 fiscal year were up 15% to $12.87 billion. Much of that sales momentum was driven by the Digital Media business, which includes Photoshop and Lightroom. That section itself brought in $2.15 of that $3.42 billion and represents a 20% year-over-year increase.
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Now, I have to believe that the zillions of posts I have seen in this and other forums from disgruntled Adobe customers and disgruntled former Adobe customers saying the subscription plan is going to kill Adobe must be more correct than the above article. Why would so many people in these forums keep saying the same thing over and over again if it wasn't true?

Speaking as one of the few non-disgruntled Adobe customers (does that make me "gruntled"?), from reading all the forums I expect Adobe to go out of business soon, and that will settle the matter.

Or maybe I don't mean any of the above, and am trying to say that the Adobe discontents were always just making stuff up ... you decide.
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Second one, your gruntledness
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And its perfectly okay for a person to think that the Adobe subscription is the worst thing to happen to mankind since the sack of Constantinople in 1204. If you hate it, then you hate it, no complaints from me. Where they go off the rails, in my opinion, is when they use their obviously biased opinion to make bold predictions of Adobe's demise. No financial analyst or stock analyst would do it that way, and the track record of the disgruntled is not good. I wish I had bought stock in Adobe somewhere along the way.

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I enjoy it for convenience, Lightroom/Photoshop works great for what I do and it is by far the easiest and most seamless products to use for cloud sync and working on the same images on different devices.

No, it's definitely not the best. But it's the only option for my use.
 
Nokiron said:
No, it's definitely not the best.
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Truth is no particular software is the "best" when it comes to post-processing /retouching. I think Lightroom is great, but DxO Photolab has better sharpening and de-noising, for example.

Where Adobe leaves everybody far behind (and the key to their enormous success, in my opinion) is in bundling Lightroom and Photoshop at a very low price for a combo that has no real competition because going for the alternatives is usually far more expensive and/or cumbersome.
 
'Photoshoped' is a part of our language. To anyone getting into editing the first thing they think of is Photoshop. So that's what they get. Not because it's the 'best' but because it's what they believe they need.

And just because the subscription is working doesn't mean that long term users love it. It just mean that more folks are subscribing. Maybe it's because new subscribers are jumping on board quicker than the old users are leaving.
 
brucet said:
And just because the subscription is working doesn't mean that long term users love it. It just mean that more folks are subscribing. Maybe it's because new subscribers are jumping on board quicker than the old users are leaving.
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Are there facts to support this, or does "Maybe" mean you are just guessing?
 
dj_paige said:
brucet said:
And just because the subscription is working doesn't mean that long term users love it. It just mean that more folks are subscribing. Maybe it's because new subscribers are jumping on board quicker than the old users are leaving.
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Are there facts to support this, or does "Maybe" mean you are just guessing?
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I'm a subscriber and have been for a number of years. Oh, and I love it! :-)
 
Maybe I'm just guessing!!!
 
brucet said:
'Photoshoped' is a part of our language. To anyone getting into editing the first thing they think of is Photoshop. So that's what they get. Not because it's the 'best' but because it's what they believe they need.
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Photoshop is, by far, the industry standard by which all others are measured.
brucet said:
And just because the subscription is working doesn't mean that long term users love it. It just mean that more folks are subscribing. Maybe it's because new subscribers are jumping on board quicker than the old users are leaving.
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Spells 'happy clients', I guess. The new ones are jumping in and the old ones don't want leave....
 
Seems pretty obvious to me that Amazon must have a product that people like the products or they wouldn't keep buying them. I have been using Photoshop and Lightroom for many years, going back to Lightroom 1.0, and I am happy with it. Considering how much my cell phone plan, cable TV, Amazon Prime, etc cost, the Adobe Creative Suite is a bargain.
 
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The reality is that many folks use Photoshop because it is the industry standard. A gazillion tutorials and books about it out there. Marketing Photoshop is easy.

But I dare say that many users of Photoshop could be just as happy with other editors. Are all the users of Photoshop even aware of other editors capabilities?

Most popular doesn't necessarily mean 'best'.
 
brucet said:
The reality is that many folks use Photoshop because it is the industry standard. A gazillion tutorials and books about it out there. Marketing Photoshop is easy.

But I dare say that many users of Photoshop could be just as happy with other editors. Are all the users of Photoshop even aware of other editors capabilities?

Most popular doesn't necessarily mean 'best'.
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It is the best... for me, I've tried them all. YMMV.
 
irv00 said:
https://petapixel.com/2020/12/11/as-adobes-earnings-soar-it-plans-to-invest-further-in-a-i-editing/

Its $3.42 billion in Q4 total revenue was 14% more than what the company posted in the same period last year. Its total sales for the full 2020 fiscal year were up 15% to $12.87 billion. Much of that sales momentum was driven by the Digital Media business, which includes Photoshop and Lightroom. That section itself brought in $2.15 of that $3.42 billion and represents a 20% year-over-year increase.
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For me, The Adobe Photo plan is the best value in photography. A complete no brainer. There must be a lot of people that feel the same.
 
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