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Its quite the small camera I guess they expect you to hold it with one hand
or have the other hand over the top and botom of the left side of the T1
Isabel Cutler said:
With the V1 you have to watch not to hold the flash cover down.
With the T1 you're going to have fingerprints all over the lcd. I
love the idea of a 2.5" lcd, but shouldn't there have been some
space for holding the camera?
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Isabel Cutler said:
With the V1 you have to watch not to hold the flash cover down.
With the T1 you're going to have fingerprints all over the lcd. I
love the idea of a 2.5" lcd, but shouldn't there have been some
space for holding the camera?
Isabel
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Isabel,

I agree. I'm sure you have small dainty hands. Imagine the trouble a person with large hands would have with cameras that are this size (and this one isn't even tiny :-( The T1 looks to be about the same length (not as wide, but taller) than my cell phone. And I have major "fat finger" problems with it :-( I'd probably need to use a stylus, or a pen to press the buttons ;-)

I'd love to have a somewhat smaller camera with this kind of performance and that nice large LCD (if I can't have an EVF...lol). I guess I'll have to wait for some mfgr to "upsize" it....lol

Is smaller always better??

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The way I see it, the V1 didn't present any problems as far as its LCD. If you hold it right-handed as intended, there isn't much risk of smudging up the LCD any more than with any other camera. And this one will be so light-weight, it ought not pose a problem in general. Sony has for the last year or so given good consideration towards making sure that the finger and palmar contact points register well within tolerances for most consumers.

For example, I was very suspicious of the V1 when I saw that it didn't have a real grip, but that little finger-hold on the front and the thumbrest in the back really do a nice job.


Steve Cavigliano said:
Isabel Cutler said:
With the V1 you have to watch not to hold the flash cover down.
With the T1 you're going to have fingerprints all over the lcd. I
love the idea of a 2.5" lcd, but shouldn't there have been some
space for holding the camera?
Isabel
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Isabel,
I agree. I'm sure you have small dainty hands. Imagine the
trouble a person with large hands would have with cameras that are
this size (and this one isn't even tiny :-( The T1 looks to be
about the same length (not as wide, but taller) than my cell phone.
And I have major "fat finger" problems with it :-( I'd probably
need to use a stylus, or a pen to press the buttons ;-)

I'd love to have a somewhat smaller camera with this kind of
performance and that nice large LCD (if I can't have an EVF...lol).
I guess I'll have to wait for some mfgr to "upsize" it....lol

Is smaller always better??

Steve
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I agree Isabel. The design is hopeless. They are marketing it to the "aw, neat" crowd. Imagine using this camera all day? Let's just pray that Sony doesn't get into the bicycle seat buisiness any day soon.

Aw, but it looks neat! ; )

Brian
Isabel Cutler said:
With the V1 you have to watch not to hold the flash cover down.
With the T1 you're going to have fingerprints all over the lcd. I
love the idea of a 2.5" lcd, but shouldn't there have been some
space for holding the camera?
Isabel
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Crazy

Loco

Certified

Loony

Whack

Mad

Screwy

Baked

Bonkers.

Heheheheh.... :-)
BrianOS 2.1 said:
I agree Isabel. The design is hopeless. They are marketing it to
the "aw, neat" crowd. Imagine using this camera all day? Let's just
pray that Sony doesn't get into the bicycle seat buisiness any day
soon.

Aw, but it looks neat! ; )
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You missed......

insane

sharp as a marble

ugly

Next time get it right Uly.... ; )

Brian
Ulysses said:
Loco

Certified

Loony

Whack

Mad

Screwy

Baked

Bonkers.

Heheheheh.... :-)
BrianOS 2.1 said:
I agree Isabel. The design is hopeless. They are marketing it to
the "aw, neat" crowd. Imagine using this camera all day? Let's just
pray that Sony doesn't get into the bicycle seat buisiness any day
soon.

Aw, but it looks neat! ; )
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LOL. I suppose Sony would make a different kind of seat adaptor that you would have to use to attach it to your bike. ; ) But of course it would be a better way of attaching it to your bike.

Brian
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David_S85 said:
BrianOS 2.1 wrote:
Let's just
pray that Sony doesn't get into the bicycle seat buisiness any day
soon.
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Now, actually, I'd welcome that. (see profile)
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s k u l p t said:
BrianOS 2.1 wrote:
LOL. I suppose Sony would make a different kind of seat adaptor
that you would have to use to attach it to your bike. ; ) But of
course it would be a better way of attaching it to your bike.

Brian
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Well, actually, the current and past manufacturers have changed formats and sizes all along in the past 100 years. Sony would be late to that party.

5/8" and 7/8" clamps, 35 different seat post diameters, all 0.2mm increments, and at least 3 different seat rail designs. Not to mention what makes up the upper portion of the saddles themselves.

"Please bring it in so we can match it up" is one of the most common phrases at any bike store.

Nah, Sony wouldn't make things that much worse, but they'd bring in their own proprietary standards, that's for sure.

I'd sure like to see more electronics built into bike saddles. Already, those red blinky LED's have been designed into the back rail area. And that was 10 years ago.

My guess is that Sony would come up with something like SSDPS. Sony Saddle Digital Positioning System. Come to think of it, that's also what Shimano would name it too.

How about a camera built into a bike saddle? Now my brain hurts. I shouldn't give away these ideas for free.
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s k u l p t said:
David_S85 said:
s k u l p t said:
BrianOS 2.1 wrote:
Let's just
pray that Sony doesn't get into the bicycle seat buisiness any day
soon.
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Now, actually, I'd welcome that. (see profile)
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I may have fat fingers or something, but these small-sized cameras are uncomfortable for me to hold and use.

I consider my F707 a perfect sized camera for handling and using, while still being small enough to easily carry around.

Recently, a friend proudly showed me his new Canon S50 camera. I'm sure it takes nice photos, but it felt like a toy in my hands. I didn't tell my friend, but I hated the feel of his camera in my hands.

I'm definitely staying with larger digital cameras, and nothing has made me even think of going away from the Sony F-series yet.

Lynn
 
David_S85 said:
Well, actually, the current and past manufacturers have changed
formats and sizes all along in the past 100 years. Sony would be
late to that party.

5/8" and 7/8" clamps, 35 different seat post diameters, all 0.2mm
increments, and at least 3 different seat rail designs. Not to
mention what makes up the upper portion of the saddles themselves.

"Please bring it in so we can match it up" is one of the most
common phrases at any bike store.

Nah, Sony wouldn't make things that much worse, but they'd bring in
their own proprietary standards, that's for sure.

I'd sure like to see more electronics built into bike saddles.
Already, those red blinky LED's have been designed into the back
rail area. And that was 10 years ago.

My guess is that Sony would come up with something like SSDPS. Sony
Saddle Digital Positioning System. Come to think of it, that's
also what Shimano would name it too.

How about a camera built into a bike saddle? Now my brain hurts.
I shouldn't give away these ideas for free.
  • David
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Oh great that's just what I need, cameras in the seat. I already hear enough lame and crass jokes from customers concerning urination and those pressure relief holes in seats. I can only imagine their ideas on a camera...but then again if Sony did make bike stuff then I could work at a bicycle-camera shop and get discounts on both. That would be sweet.

Greg
 
Hi Isabel,

Sony used to be sooooooo good. I wonder what is wrong with their engineers... The only problem I had with the S-85 (what focus problem?) was the location of the focus button right by the L/H thumbhold. If the button was fat-fingered the results were iffy.

The F717 was perfect. The camera wouldn't do anything I didn't expect it to do (except for the recall issues).

There are lots of articles out today about Samsung and other competitors taking Sony market share in different electronic lines of business. Hence, the long delay between the announcement of the F828 and it's introduction is worrisome. Sony has left far too much time for conjecture (as we see on this board). For all we know it's as noise free as a D-SLR. Or, it's a dog!

If Sony is successful, I'll feel bad (not too bad though) for buying my Drebel. Something tells me that I won't have buyers remorse though. I had to have SLR performance and I got it.

Also:

I finally did some post-processing to the 300D album pix and reloaded it. The URL is: http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4289007629

Check out the pool shot and the stop action of the girl diving into the pool. That photo is full of bright areas, shady areas, all sorts of color and lots of detail. It's a good challenge for the Drebel's kit lens.

Take Care!
Mike

PS: I will be moving to PBASE. I feel that we get what we pay for with "free" photo posting services....
Isabel Cutler said:
With the V1 you have to watch not to hold the flash cover down.
With the T1 you're going to have fingerprints all over the lcd. I
love the idea of a 2.5" lcd, but shouldn't there have been some
space for holding the camera?
Isabel
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From a bit of time spent with a U10 I'd say the greater hazard is getting your fingers over the flash and/or lens when using both hands. The EX-Z3 doesn't have any trouble at all with LCD marking, and although this is mainly due to the excellent non-reflecting cover material choice, you can really use it single handed with no effort beyond a little initial acclimatisation.

I always feel the biggest problem with these tiny cameras is nothing more than the fear of dropping them. The solution is simple: stick the wrist strap -- if that's the only thing provided -- at the back of a drawer and get a decent neck cord. Suddenly you'll find the thing almost miraculously easy to hold and use without the consequences of dropping it nagging at you constantly. I'm being in no way facetious about this. Sure it's all in the mind, but confidence breeds confidence. V1 dropees (and there have been a few, I gather) take note ;-)

Mike
Isabel Cutler said:
With the V1 you have to watch not to hold the flash cover down.
With the T1 you're going to have fingerprints all over the lcd. I
love the idea of a 2.5" lcd, but shouldn't there have been some
space for holding the camera?
Isabel
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