Canon EXEC: EOS R7 teased with"the R series lineup is not yet complete…"

"Of course, I'm thinking of expanding [the EOS R line] in the future as a strategy, but I can't say yet whether it will be EOS R7," teased Tsuyoshi Tokura, when asked whether the Canon EOS R7 might join the Canon EOS R5 and Canon EOS R6.



No mention of a cinematic or 90MP high resolution variants of the R5 though (R5C or R5R) despite recent rumors. I bet the R7 is much cheaper than the R6 unlike the $5000 - $7000 that I would guess that an R5R and R5C and R5C might cost.

I bet the R5C is bigger, heavier and bulkier with a full size HDMI connector as well needing a special battery or a dual battery possibly like that in the 1DX MK III. Neither of these do appeal to me but may satify others with more extreme requirements. The R5 is for me the perfect Photographers camera with some time limited high tech video. Perfect for me in a small compact nearly weather proof swamp/jungle/rainstorm/snowstorm system. If Adorama would I only ship mine ordered July 9 at the same times as B&H ships their July 9 customers. I will be a happy camera camper and put my EOS R away to use the powerful new tool.

R7 is coming to RF mount. Not denying is an admission that something is in the pipeline.

That 32mp sensor looks more at home with RF glass.

trungtran said:

R7 is coming to RF mount. Not denying is an admission that something is in the pipeline.

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Or it means he doesn't want to leave anything off the table in the future but there's nothing now. Any executive worth their pay will not say anything to the press that isn't an official marketing message.

I would bet after Nikon's z50 flop, they aren't eager for APS-C

trungtran said:

That 32mp sensor looks more at home with RF glass.

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It only really makes sense with one lens, the 100-500.

What doesn't make sense is Canon keeping M mount around while making APS-C RF mount gear, too.

I mean, it's a business, of course, they're going to have new products and reasons to upgrade.

RDM5546 said:

https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/...-exec-the-r-series-lineup-is-not-yet-complete

"Of course, I'm thinking of expanding [the EOS R line] in the future as a strategy, but I can't say yet whether it will be EOS R7," teased Tsuyoshi Tokura, when asked whether the Canon EOS R7 might join the Canon EOS R5 and Canon EOS R6.

No mention of a cinematic or 90MP high resolution variants of the R5 though (R5C or R5R) despite recent rumors. I bet the R7 is much cheaper than the R6 unlike the $5000 - $7000 that I would guess that an R5R and R5C and R5C might cost.

I bet the R5C is bigger, heavier and bulkier with a full size HDMI connector as well needing a special battery or a dual battery possibly like that in the 1DX MK III. Neither of these do appeal to me but may satify others with more extreme requirements. The R5 is for me the perfect Photographers camera with some time limited high tech video. Perfect for me in a small compact nearly weather proof swamp/jungle/rainstorm/snowstorm system. If Adorama would I only ship mine ordered July 9 at the same times as B&H ships their July 9 customers. I will be a happy camera camper and put my EOS R away to use the powerful new tool.

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The possibility of a R7 is one of the big things that is making me consider getting an R6 instead of an R5.

Looking in the past, R5 will be followed by R5sr (Hi Mp). Not sure what you will get with R7? More fps???? really? May be RP7 would fit to replace the 7D series with an R version.

tkbslc said:

I would bet after Nikon's z50 flop, they aren't eager for APS-C

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If the Z50 flopped then the M6ii is really flopping.

I heard it was doing quite well actually.




Interest doesn't necessarily translate to sales but the number of reviews on a site like Adorama and BandH shows the Z50 is outsellling the M6 ii.

tkbslc said:

I would bet after Nikon's z50 flop, they aren't eager for APS-C.

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I don't know about elsewhere in the world, but in Japan-only the Z50 is Nikon's best selling Z. Last month, their other Zs didn't even make the BCN top 50 list. The Canon RP didn't make the top 50 list either.

It's in a different price category, with a different mount, but the APS-C M50 is Canon's best selling mirrorless camera, and not just in Japan.

tkbslc said:

trungtran said:

R7 is coming to RF mount. Not denying is an admission that something is in the pipeline.

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Or it means he doesn't want to leave anything off the table in the future but there's nothing now. Any executive worth their pay will not say anything to the press that isn't an official marketing message.

I would bet after Nikon's z50 flop, they aren't eager for APS-C

tkbslc said:

That 32mp sensor looks more at home with RF glass.

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It only really makes sense with one lens, the 100-500.

What doesn't make sense is Canon keeping M mount around while making APS-C RF mount gear, too.

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I bought the R5 for 45MP action camera 20/12fps with awesome mechanize shutter and decent rolling shutter behavior. Perfect match for me if and when I ever get my Adorama shipment.

I even like the 8K for 30sec videos of wildlife. 4KHQ is almost as good as 8K but stills from 4K are worse slightly if you crop much.

RDM5546 said:

tkbslc said:

trungtran said:

R7 is coming to RF mount. Not denying is an admission that something is in the pipeline.

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Or it means he doesn't want to leave anything off the table in the future but there's nothing now. Any executive worth their pay will not say anything to the press that isn't an official marketing message.

I would bet after Nikon's z50 flop, they aren't eager for APS-C

RDM5546 said:

That 32mp sensor looks more at home with RF glass.

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It only really makes sense with one lens, the 100-500.

What doesn't make sense is Canon keeping M mount around while making APS-C RF mount gear, too.

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I bought the R5 for 45MP action camera 20/12fps with awesome mechanize shutter and decent rolling shutter behavior. Perfect match for me if and when I ever get my Adorama shipment.

I even like the 8K for 30sec videos of wildlife. 4KHQ is almost as good as 8K but stills from 4K are worse slightly if you crop much.

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The R5 for me, a stills primary usage and just an occasional video shooter, think the R5 is the perfect match I want for my next body to go with my 5D Mk IV. I still used my 7D Mk II and for that matter I still also use my 70D Mk II for the live view on the swing out rear screen like the EOS R has which very handy for tripod use. The 7D mk II has good focus points and high fps shooting. The 70 D lack the action shooting just like the EOS R. The R5 will have both excellent touch screen and swing out rear high pixel LCD. It will definitely replace my seven year old 70D for focusing and ergonomic clear sharp rear touch screen issues. The R5 may take both 7D and 70D cameras for my use but I have have to wait and see how well the R5, R and 5D MkIV team for action shooting as a trinity of bodies.

The new rumored Sony Pro Body Specifications includes 8K with no overheating like the R5C with a bigger and heavier body I do not need to solve overheating which a not issue within the Rev 1.1.1 R5 timelimits and whatever improvements I get from future firmware upgrades that arrive well before he Sony $6,000 rumored 8K hybrid camera body:

• Bigger and truly pro body
• 9.44M dots EVF
• Newly developed sensor
• 8K video recording with no overheating
• Dual card slots
• New menu systems from A7S3
• IBIS with Steady shot active mode
• Everything about this camera is new
• Price $5.999

I was worried the R5 would sell for $5,999 or more!! $3,899 is more within my budget and better suitd for my needs.

tkbslc said:

What doesn't make sense is Canon keeping M mount around while making APS-C RF mount gear, too.

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The M is Canon's version of the M43, but with a bigger sensor. For those who want a compact size camera yet ILC capability. No reason to retire it so long as it sells. But not invest much into the lens side.

kelpdiver said:

tkbslc said:

What doesn't make sense is Canon keeping M mount around while making APS-C RF mount gear, too.

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The M is Canon's version of the M43, but with a bigger sensor. For those who want a compact size camera yet ILC capability. No reason to retire it so long as it sells. But not invest much into the lens side.

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Why not? The entire M lineup costs less than one RF lens!

tkbslc said:

trungtran said:

R7 is coming to RF mount. Not denying is an admission that something is in the pipeline.

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Or it means he doesn't want to leave anything off the table in the future but there's nothing now. Any executive worth their pay will not say anything to the press that isn't an official marketing message.

I would bet after Nikon's z50 flop, they aren't eager for APS-C

tkbslc said:

That 32mp sensor looks more at home with RF glass.

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It only really makes sense with one lens, the 100-500.

What doesn't make sense is Canon keeping M mount around while making APS-C RF mount gear, too.

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Canon stopped making sense a while ago...
The M mount has very similar dimensions as the Sony E mount, so it looks like Canon's original plans was to later produce FF sensors for it but sometime along the development timeline they aborted that idea and decided to create the RF mount.

If Canon real intentions was to create a really compact affordable consumer line with the M separated from FF they should have designed a smaller M mount specifically for APS-C to begin with.

Abandoning the M series it is going to disappoint a lot of people and take a dent in their reputation yet they have to come with a cropped RF version to ease new customers transition to and from FF using the same RF mount.

I don't think Canon would have invested resources developing that 32MP APS-S sensor exclusively for the M series since they have never shown much commitment to that line.

kelpdiver said:

tkbslc said:

What doesn't make sense is Canon keeping M mount around while making APS-C RF mount gear, too.

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The M is Canon's version of the M43, but with a bigger sensor. For those who want a compact size camera yet ILC capability. No reason to retire it so long as it sells. But not invest much into the lens side.

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Big +1

I think Canon still needs to maintain the M System as a bridge to the R system. Aspiring photographers don’t just jump from smartphones directly to $$$ full frame systems. They need to get their feet wet and develop a love for photography, and a desire to go beyond. And with the collapse of P&S, an entry-level M camera fits the bill perfectly.

Even with upcoming entry-level R bodies, they still won't be the same combination of small, light, and inexpensive as the M Series are. Canon has definitely had this planned out from the beginning.

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In the DSLR era, EF-S lenses didn't work on Canon FF DSLRs.

In the Mirrorless era, EF-M lenses won't work on Canon FF mirrorless cameras.

I don't see what the big deal is about that situation.

justmeMN said:

In the DSLR era, EF-S lenses didn't work on Canon FF DSLRs.

In the Mirrorless era, EF-M lenses won't work on Canon FF mirrorless cameras.

I don't see what the big deal is about that situation.

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The bigger issue for me is that RF lenses won’t work on M bodies. In EF world, FF lenses always worked on crop bodies.

tkbslc said:

trungtran said:

R7 is coming to RF mount. Not denying is an admission that something is in the pipeline.

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Or it means he doesn't want to leave anything off the table in the future but there's nothing now. Any executive worth their pay will not say anything to the press that isn't an official marketing message.

I would bet after Nikon's z50 flop, they aren't eager for APS-C

tkbslc said:

That 32mp sensor looks more at home with RF glass.

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It only really makes sense with one lens, the 100-500.

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Don't you think RF 70-200 2.8 would make any sense on crop body for sport shooters?

tkbslc said:

What doesn't make sense is Canon keeping M mount around while making APS-C RF mount gear, too.

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Depends on what size, weight and price those wide to mid range (11-200mm) aps-c RF-lenses would be.

Give me a tough-as-nails R7 with the R5/6 AF and no compromise on ergos for between $1,500 and $2,000 and I'm in.

tkbslc said:

trungtran said:

R7 is coming to RF mount. Not denying is an admission that something is in the pipeline.

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Or it means he doesn't want to leave anything off the table in the future but there's nothing now. Any executive worth their pay will not say anything to the press that isn't an official marketing message.

I would bet after Nikon's z50 flop, they aren't eager for APS-C

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What does the z50 have to do with anything?

tkbslc said:

tkbslc said:

That 32mp sensor looks more at home with RF glass.

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It only really makes sense with one lens, the 100-500.

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As if there won't be others coming that will be great on a r7. Plus, many can and will use this with EF lenses.

tkbslc said:

What doesn't make sense is Canon keeping M mount around while making APS-C RF mount gear, too.

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It makes sense if they decide not to make any crop-sensor RF glass. A crop-sensor R7 doesn't have to have it's own glass just because the EF system did. The M-line can be were people go if they want crop-sensor glass.

JD28 said:

Give me a tough-as-nails R7 with the R5/6 AF and no compromise on ergos for between $1,500 and $2,000 and I'm in.

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Bingo! Canon, take my money.