Hoka Hey
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I know what you mean. I'm currently try to talk myself out of the FR 85 1.2 and the RF 100-500.
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Hoka Hey
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Haha!!!
RDM5546
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The freezing (what you call blackout) jerkyness in Fro 3:42 boy and Tony 0:42 seagull are concerning and perhaps tolerable. Not clear if this is 60Hz or 100 hz refresh selection and the old EF500f4 first generation lens many be part of the limitation. Details matter. Fro uses the RF 85f1.2. What I say here I think is a lot better focus of the R overall by quite a bit for what I value. Others may and probably will differ. I just share what I see. Despite not being perfect it looks workable.
Chelsea was not using the subject selection technique of Fro for changing selected subjects quickly. I think her concern for one hour and 2 minutes video restriction is irrelevant to two minute is enough for me. Even 1 minute is very useful. She never tried and failed to get the two minutes. It was a prediction. She have talked less about thermal and seen what she might have made in a video using the actual camera until it stopped. I think the actual performance is more important. Was that 2 minutes of 8K raw? 40GB of video created is more than I need! Workflow matters to me. Video for me is very low priority and short clips are my probably biggest use of the 8K. She did say or try but I bet 4k30 still worked as it is unlimited time. and that would be a video step up for me.
Yeah the lower quality 4k is unlimited I think even while also taking pictures etc. For me I'd have liked a crop option although Canon might possibly add this. It would be a pretty big 2x crop but I'd be OK with that.
At this point I do not trust her with that test, at all. Even if she is right. I’ll stick to the Fro who had RF lenses. The slight jitter wasn’t too bad.
I can tell you this this I think we may know soon. Before they ship.
RDM5546
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I just found this new video from
Matti Haapoja
The most important thing is he found the 4K30 always works regardless of overheating. It continues to available so in her wildlife video Chelsea could at the end of her casual one hour still shoot shoot the same 4K which is the only 4K in the A7riii. Che did not try that and chose to complaint about the 2minute warning for the esoteric high end video modes that are not available on the other hybrid cameras. For me 4K30 is plenty for rare use. It is claimed that the 4k30 quality is worse than other 4K modes and this is easy to see. I found and realword comparisons of Canon 4k30 vs Sony A7Riii 4k30 apples for apples video quality comparison. On wild claims of line skippin and binning being how it must rely on and how bad that is. They are not engineers. The proof is in the direct actual comparison of both camers in real 4k30 use and testing with several viewers asking them what they like. That does not exist for these cameras. Focus, gamma, HDR all matter. My money in a shootout test is the Canon will look better. Maybe someone will actually do this and stop whining about the time limiting modes. Side by side with the R5 and A7III is what it needs.
On time limited he got 14minutes or more for all his tests. He now figures 5 minutes clips are good guideline for these awesome modes modes not available on any other hybrid. Great conclusions and he has not desire for fan and he can live with limits and likes the IBIS although he finds it not perfect with a wobble issue but he said it great the wobbles are no big deal.
He says he will with perfection and the R5 is a great camera so he buy a second body.
He is a very realistic reviewer and I like his review a lot.
RDM5546
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I keep say next year. Next year but if that RF 100-500 goes on sale in December I know the flesh is weak.
The RF 85 1.2 I am less vulnurable to. I have 24, 35, 50, 85, 100, 135 and 180mm primes 1.2/1.4 primes and a 50f1.0. 8 high end EFs and get all eight in RF glass is big money for sure. Almost all my EF primes have 100% focal point coverage and I suspect they will work well enough. This keep me from going too crazy.
It will be nice to fill in some my COVID free time learning how to best use these primes with the R5. One of major uses for big glass primes is for indoor sports and events. The higher ISO performance and better low light focus newer camer body model is reducing some the benefits of large apertures over zooms. I never bought zooms until the last 15 years. Times change and 45MP/4K with the R5 are now very real. Printing is not what it used to be and video screens for viewing are the norm. Making quality stills and even 2K/4k HDR 10 bit video with the R5 appears awesome despite the imperfections remaining. Can the R1 actual be now coming soon for more camera at higher price? TIme will tell.
My guess is, the slideshow effect (jerkiness in the viewfinder) is only in Continuous High+ mode. In Continuous High and Continuous Low modes, the EVF will be smooth.
All these fps "focus priority"?My guess is, the slideshow effect (jerkiness in the viewfinder) is only in Continuous High+ mode. In Continuous High and Continuous Low modes, the EVF will be smooth.
No info here about that.All these fps "focus priority"?My guess is, the slideshow effect (jerkiness in the viewfinder) is only in Continuous High+ mode. In Continuous High and Continuous Low modes, the EVF will be smooth.
【ミラーレスカメラ】EOS R5 高速連続撮影時に最高速度で撮影するための条件は？
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No. I just presented the table to show that there are several continuous drive modes available.All these fps "focus priority"?My guess is, the slideshow effect (jerkiness in the viewfinder) is only in Continuous High+ mode. In Continuous High and Continuous Low modes, the EVF will be smooth.
"During Servo AF, the continuous shooting speed may decrease depending on the subject conditions and lens used." No more info.No info here about that.All these fps "focus priority"?My guess is, the slideshow effect (jerkiness in the viewfinder) is only in Continuous High+ mode. In Continuous High and Continuous Low modes, the EVF will be smooth.
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In R they state clearly speed priority and focus priority.
Yes that's good we can reduce fps in servo if wanted. Wish they told us that focus priority thing...No. I just presented the table to show that there are several continuous drive modes available.All these fps "focus priority"?My guess is, the slideshow effect (jerkiness in the viewfinder) is only in Continuous High+ mode. In Continuous High and Continuous Low modes, the EVF will be smooth.
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A proper review will come. He was upfront about the limitations about the methodology. I don’t remember him actually saying it’s an autofocus stress test. I guess it’s the same reason why DPR writes so many articles after a camera gets unveiled. They do previews, first impressions, sample gallery, etc.
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Found this: "The EOS R5 can capture images at up to a blistering 20fps with the electronic shutter or 12fps with the mechanical shutter, all with AF tracking."Yes that's good we can reduce fps in servo if wanted. Wish they told us that focus priority thing...No. I just presented the table to show that there are several continuous drive modes available.All these fps "focus priority"?My guess is, the slideshow effect (jerkiness in the viewfinder) is only in Continuous High+ mode. In Continuous High and Continuous Low modes, the EVF will be smooth.
from here: https://www.davidnoton.com/despatches/3/Canon EOS-R5 - The Field Trial
That's a pretty good job from Canon, if R5 can track with 12fps as well as slower fps. I see the difference in focus accuracy on R (speed priority 5fps vs focus priority 2,5fps). Anyway, Id be fine with 8fps in focus priority.
Hoka Hey
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I've been shooting with the M6ii this summer which has a frame rate of 7 FPS in high speed continuous focus priority mode otherwise known as "keeper mode." It was more than enough. It's the first time that I have regularly filled up 64 GB cards. The keeper rate on bees with the EF 100 2.8 macro L was great. I can't wait to see what the R5 does with the beefed up AF and 8 FPS in keeper mode.
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Yes, 7 "keeper mode" fps would suit me also. I'm now shooting with 2,5? (R's focus priority) and would like to get more, especially for BIF.
And from R6 manual:
[ ] High-speed continuous shooting +
When you hold down the shutter button completely, you can shoot continuously at max.
approx. 12 shots/sec. while you keep holding it down.
[ ] High-speed continuous shooting
When you hold down the shutter button completely, you can shoot continuously at max.
approx. 8.0 shots/sec. ([ : Shutter mode] set to [Mechanical]: max. approx. 6.0
shots/sec.) while you keep holding it down.
[ ] Low-speed continuous shooting
When you hold down the shutter button completely, you can shoot continuously at max.
approx. 3.0 shots/sec. while you keep holding it down.
No words about "focus priority" or "with AF tracking". A bit confusing.
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