hi there . so it is been a while that i am confused between getting eos rp or fuji x30. i think fuji almost beats canon in every aspect except sensor that most ppl say that is not such a big deal. i am willing to get eos rp since i like shooting at night and 30% portaits. on the other hand i do 70% street photography and i will be getting 35mm f1.4 for fuji. I really alos think that film simulations qould be great for street photgraphy why also i dont enjoy editing that much but canon rp is all about just "full frame" look. you guys think that i should get into fullframe ecosystem with rp or later invest on sth worthier.
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fuji xt30 vs canon eos rp
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If you are doing 70% street and 30% portraits, with only JPEG, stick with the Fujifilm camera. The RP doesn't even have a full mechanical shutter, only EFCS, so the bokeh in the portraits taken with it may look strange.
Bill60
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I would check that comment re shutter. My understanding is that it has both mechanical and electronic shutter. The reviews point out that “silent shutter” is fully electronic and only available in scene mode. From memory the DPR review suggested that it would be a good camera for street.
TripleCoatedBokeh
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i vote for the fuji. much more affordable lenses, imo.
Yes, you should check. The RP only had 2 options. Full Electronic (Silent Shutter) and Electronic First Curtain Shutter (EFCS).
jvc1
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What is this "full frame look" you're talking about? I doubt very much that you'd be able to reliably tell the difference between pictures taken on FF, APS-C or M4/3.
Jon555
Veteran Member
Worth a read (he's really a Nikon expert, so no particular love for Canon)...
http://www.sansmirror.com/cameras/camera-reviews/canon-rp-review.html
I think the issue with Fuji is they have relatively few IS lenses and only one camera (XT4) with good IBIS (although cheap XH-1s might be still available with so-so IBIS).
I think the XT-30 is a good non-IBIS camera, but an XT-40 with IBIS would be stellar...
http://www.sansmirror.com/cameras/camera-reviews/canon-rp-review.html
I think the issue with Fuji is they have relatively few IS lenses and only one camera (XT4) with good IBIS (although cheap XH-1s might be still available with so-so IBIS).
I think the XT-30 is a good non-IBIS camera, but an XT-40 with IBIS would be stellar...
Navajo
Member
What do you guys think about Image Quality of these two cameras? When I compare Fuji X-T30 with EOS RP using dpreview studio scene Image Comparison tool (https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilm-x-t30-review/6) RP images look more clear to me. Is it is because of bigger sensor or some other reason? I have no experience of full frame.
Bill60
Well-known member
Well, i dont regard myself as an expert by any means, so if in doubt google is your friend. In Ken Rockwells review he shows that the "mechanical shutter" in the EOS RP is rated at 100,000 actuations. You may wish to look that up as you are obviously not a RP owner and hence the lack of depth in your recommendations.
Now i would agree that this info is rather hard to find, but most of the early noise regarding the RP, was around the limitations on the electronic silent shutter, and the access to it.
Now i would agree that this info is rather hard to find, but most of the early noise regarding the RP, was around the limitations on the electronic silent shutter, and the access to it.
Bill60
Well-known member
Taken from the canon usa spec sheet of the canon EOS RP ( on their web site)
Electronically controlled focal-plane shutter
Electronically controlled focal-plane shutter
- Electronic first curtain, mechanical second curtain
- Electronic shutter (slit rolling read out)
- Mechanical first and second curtain
I'm going to guess you are looking at the R's specs and not the RP's. So try again.
Now what were you saying about "lack of depth in your recommendations"?
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New Day Rising
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If you do more street photography, I would go the Fujifilm and enjoy the film simulations. Lots of good lens options.
Just before the pandemic, I did a street photo walk with a colleague. He does a bit of professional wedding photography and was using a full frame Sony A7iii with a very nice Zeiss prime lens. I was using a Fujifilm X-T1 with 18-55mm kit lens. When we looked at each other's processed images, he was a bit speechless as he couldn't see anyway that the image quality of his was superior to mine.
In the end, you will be happy with either, but the XT-30 seems to me the better fit.
Just before the pandemic, I did a street photo walk with a colleague. He does a bit of professional wedding photography and was using a full frame Sony A7iii with a very nice Zeiss prime lens. I was using a Fujifilm X-T1 with 18-55mm kit lens. When we looked at each other's processed images, he was a bit speechless as he couldn't see anyway that the image quality of his was superior to mine.
In the end, you will be happy with either, but the XT-30 seems to me the better fit.
TripleCoatedBokeh
Leading Member
Both are excellent cameras, I think either one will make you happy. I wouldn't get too hung up on pixel peeping. Do you plan on cropping in 300% ?
I would consider other important factors like what lenses you plan to use and purchase. If you want native mount lenses the fuji is far cheaper and has great quality lenses and is a mature system that you can find good deals on used equipment. The RF mount is very new, lacks many popular focal lengths, and most of what's on the market are expensive. Although the new tele primes announced shows promise that Canon will be releasing more affordable lenses in the future. The Canon can also be used with an adapter to use EF lenses. I have no idea how well the EF lenses function on the RP so you may want to research that further if it interests you. But, the EF lenses have been around a long time and you can find anything at pretty much any price point/quality you are willing to spend on.
Ultimately I think both camera bodies and their supporting lenses are great for the use you plan on, i would just suggest researching more into the lenses/focal lengths you plan to use most and not get hung up on tech specs.
Jon555
Veteran Member
A bigger sensor will have an advantage in low light (as it captures more light at the same aperture, and most noise is actually noise in the light). However you can overcome this with faster lenses. Also software applies different amounts of sharpening for different cameras, not helping comparisons.
I'd be tempted to consider what you want to photograph and look at what you might get in each system. I like both cameras but they wouldn't be for me. As I mentioned in my previous post I think Fuji lack lenses with IS and don't have IBIS except in expensive cameras (you can get cheap X-H1 models, but the IBIS isn't that great, and it's large). Also some of their older lenses are quite slow to AF.
I'd find it hard to fault the RP with the 24-105 L, but it's an expensive lens ($1899 as a kit). EF lenses do seem to work well with RF cameras, complete with continuous AF, which you usually don't get adapting lenses between systems. There's a huge market in used EF glass.
Consider budget carefully, also play with cameras (tricky at the moment) to see what feels good. I suspect both will.
Also size:
https://camerasize.com/compact/#815.790,816.422,ha,t
(The 23/2 is probably a better choice, the 27/2.8 even more for me, but I went for the most comparable lenses.)
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Navajo
Member
Thank you so much for your explanation and suggestions. I liked the camerasize.com link. It is very convenient just to compare the size and I'm agree with you playing with camera is important. I had done it for Fuji x-t30 and x-t3 and grip in x-t30 is not fitting as others. I didn't experienced RP yet. I'll check the lens as well. Thanks again.
Navajo
Member
I don't have any lens from both brand. Probably I will stick with kit lens at first. But you are right I should check the available lenses as well. Thanks for your answer.
I guess this is a good time to tell you not to trust everything you read or hear on the internet, including this very comment. So do your own research from multiple sources.
The RP's 100.000 actuation rating has nothing to do with the type of shutter that is used. The RP still has a mechanical shutter, just only with a single curtain. EFCS or Full Electronic shutter is the only options available for the Canon RP. And because of this many members, including myself have decided not to purchase the camera because of the way bokeh can be rendered with this type of shutter with fast shutter speeds. Some might not notice or care, but others do.
Your insult towards the other member doesn't help your case and a apology should be said. Especially when you were in the wrong.
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