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Hi. Looking for decent third party alternatives to the NP-W126s for my X-T2. I have two ChilliPower ones already but they are the older NP-W126 model and in my Grip they are empty within literally 3 minutes of turning the camera on, at that stage I am just carrying around dead-weight. I also have a red coloured Baxxtar battery, again, absolutely useless.

Now, the price of the OEM Battery on Amazon UK seems to have come right down to £39.99 (Compared to Fuji themselves charging 65 quid!) https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fujifilm-NP-W126S-Lithium-Ion-Rechargeable-Battery/dp/B01I4RNPQ6

I have however seen the PATONA brand ones on Amazon too, I can get two batteries for £33 https://www.amazon.co.uk/PATONA-Pla...85406779&rnid=1642204031&s=electronics&sr=1-4

Anyone have experience of these or other lower cost brands? I need two batteries for the grip as I don't want to mix two brands in the same accessory (I don't mind the main body having the OEM one).Thanks, Dan.
 
dd1989 said:
Hi. Looking for decent third party alternatives to the NP-W126s for my X-T2. I have two ChilliPower ones already but they are the older NP-W126 model and in my Grip they are empty within literally 3 minutes of turning the camera on, at that stage I am just carrying around dead-weight. I also have a red coloured Baxxtar battery, again, absolutely useless.

Now, the price of the OEM Battery on Amazon UK seems to have come right down to £39.99 (Compared to Fuji themselves charging 65 quid!) https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fujifilm-NP-W126S-Lithium-Ion-Rechargeable-Battery/dp/B01I4RNPQ6

I have however seen the PATONA brand ones on Amazon too, I can get two batteries for £33 https://www.amazon.co.uk/PATONA-Pla...85406779&rnid=1642204031&s=electronics&sr=1-4

Anyone have experience of these or other lower cost brands? I need two batteries for the grip as I don't want to mix two brands in the same accessory (I don't mind the main body having the OEM one).Thanks, Dan.
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See also this older tread: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/63444649

The Patona brand you mentioned is discussed here also. In general experiences are good with third party batteries. But some reservations with the ultra cheap ones, e.g less than $10.

John
 
dd1989 said:
Hi. Looking for decent third party alternatives to the NP-W126s for my X-T2. I have two ChilliPower ones already but they are the older NP-W126 model and in my Grip they are empty within literally 3 minutes of turning the camera on, at that stage I am just carrying around dead-weight. I also have a red coloured Baxxtar battery, again, absolutely useless.

Now, the price of the OEM Battery on Amazon UK seems to have come right down to £39.99 (Compared to Fuji themselves charging 65 quid!) https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fujifilm-NP-W126S-Lithium-Ion-Rechargeable-Battery/dp/B01I4RNPQ6

I have however seen the PATONA brand ones on Amazon too, I can get two batteries for £33 https://www.amazon.co.uk/PATONA-Pla...85406779&rnid=1642204031&s=electronics&sr=1-4

Anyone have experience of these or other lower cost brands? I need two batteries for the grip as I don't want to mix two brands in the same accessory (I don't mind the main body having the OEM one).Thanks, Dan.
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I just bought a couple of 126s for US$ 15.00 EACH. Recognised by my Pro3 and came in original box.

Above your budget?

Original Fuji those are. Performance seems on par with the other brand new 125s that came with my new camera.

Deed
 
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I saw a few NP-W126s on eBay listed as brand new and original OEM items but a few reviews have said whilst the markings look fine they are definitely not genuine. I think if I was to get genuine I would go for the £39.99 one on Amazon as it is sold and fulfilled by them.
 
I had an Expro in my X-T20. No issues. Also had one for a Nikon J5 (now sold) that lasted longer than the supplied Nikon battery. Bought from Amazon (UK).
 
I have been using Patona batteries for years with great satisfaction including the last one 126S Excellent indeed even if the capacity is margionally lower. They do last for very loçng I never throw one away after quite a number of years
 
I've had a couple of the Pantona Platinum batteries for over a year, purchased from Amazon UK. No complaints, seem to be on a par with the Fuji battery but a lot cheaper. Think they're made in Germany. Would definitely recommend
 
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I have a few fake Fujifilm batteries. They are labeled as "Panssonic" instead of Panasonic. They don't last as long in terms of battery life and longevity as original Fujifilm batteries.
 
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I've been using the Wasabi Power brand without issue. They do feel like their discharge time may be a bit less than the oem, but I haven't directly compared them in a controlled setting. They definitely last longer than 3 minutes.
 
dd1989 said:
I saw a few NP-W126s on eBay listed as brand new and original OEM items but a few reviews have said whilst the markings look fine they are definitely not genuine. I think if I was to get genuine I would go for the £39.99 one on Amazon as it is sold and fulfilled by them.
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If the markings were the only distinguishing factor, I would have to agree. However, my X-Pro3 has accepted the battery as a 126s. You are aware that both the X-T3 and the X-Pro3 do a check of the battery and give you a warning when you turn on the camera? My 126 batteries ALL give me a warning whereas those 2 I bought from China do not.

Also the frames per charge are on par with the original batteries.

This is what I bought: https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-NP-W12...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

Deed
 
FujiJon said:
I had an Expro in my X-T20. No issues. Also had one for a Nikon J5 (now sold) that lasted longer than the supplied Nikon battery. Bought from Amazon (UK).
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Same here - the Expros seemed to work well on the X-T2
 
deednets said:
dd1989 said:
I saw a few NP-W126s on eBay listed as brand new and original OEM items but a few reviews have said whilst the markings look fine they are definitely not genuine. I think if I was to get genuine I would go for the £39.99 one on Amazon as it is sold and fulfilled by them.
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If the markings were the only distinguishing factor, I would have to agree. However, my X-Pro3 has accepted the battery as a 126s. You are aware that both the X-T3 and the X-Pro3 do a check of the battery and give you a warning when you turn on the camera? My 126 batteries ALL give me a warning whereas those 2 I bought from China do not.

Also the frames per charge are on par with the original batteries.

This is what I bought: https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-NP-W12...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

Deed
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The check that the more recent cameras do is a really simple resistance check on the S battery terminal - would be easy to fake
 
James H MacAllister said:
I've been using the Wasabi Power brand without issue.
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I used the NP-W126 equivalent Wasabi brand battery on my X-E1 for a couple years, and then one of them swelled-up INSIDE the camera.

That happened outside and people around me must have thought that I was a camera-abuser, trying to remove the battery by banging the camera on the edge of the table, while holding the camera door and lock awkwardly open. Almost around the same time the second one too started swelling-up. Of-course, being a miserly idiot, I purchased another couple off-brand batteries, within a month, these too started swelling-up inside the camera. But this time I was lucky as I just managed to get the battery out easily.

I never allow the battery to drain fully, mostly, I charge when it reaches 50% to 30% (that is what is recommended for Li-Ion - charge frequently, and don't discharge fully).
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If the markings were the only distinguishing factor, I would have to agree. However, my X-Pro3 has accepted the battery as a 126s. You are aware that both the X-T3 and the X-Pro3 do a check of the battery and give you a warning when you turn on the camera? My 126 batteries ALL give me a warning whereas those 2 I bought from China do not.
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This is because sensing the NP-W126S can easily be suppressed by masking one of the four contacts. I'll post a link to this here if I can find it again.

EDIT: Here it is, halfway down this page (search for "EASILY MANIPULATED"): https://domvarney.com/2019/04/14/the-great-battery-brawl/

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Greybeard2017 said:
deednets said:
dd1989 said:
I saw a few NP-W126s on eBay listed as brand new and original OEM items but a few reviews have said whilst the markings look fine they are definitely not genuine. I think if I was to get genuine I would go for the £39.99 one on Amazon as it is sold and fulfilled by them.
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If the markings were the only distinguishing factor, I would have to agree. However, my X-Pro3 has accepted the battery as a 126s. You are aware that both the X-T3 and the X-Pro3 do a check of the battery and give you a warning when you turn on the camera? My 126 batteries ALL give me a warning whereas those 2 I bought from China do not.

Also the frames per charge are on par with the original batteries.

This is what I bought: https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-NP-W12...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

Deed
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The check that the more recent cameras do is a really simple resistance check on the S battery terminal - would be easy to fake
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That maybe so but still prefer those to my old 126 variety. Also: last longer with more shots.

One might of course ask what profit margins sit on a NZ$ 150.00 battery?? That's what we pay over here.

Like a NZ$ 49.00 lightning to USB-A cable ;-)
 
Indeed, most 3rd party (even good ones) Batteries do not have the Thermistor that the OEM one has, but merely a resistor set to measure a specific output to trick chargers and the camera to thinking they are real.
 
dd1989 said:
Indeed, most 3rd party (even good ones) Batteries do not have the Thermistor that the OEM one has, but merely a resistor set to measure a specific output to trick chargers and the camera to thinking they are real.
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Haha, my unreal ones work well, so just call me blissfully ignorant 😎

i also have a couple of Wasabi, which by comparison are really not good.
 
deednets said:
dd1989 said:
Indeed, most 3rd party (even good ones) Batteries do not have the Thermistor that the OEM one has, but merely a resistor set to measure a specific output to trick chargers and the camera to thinking they are real.
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Haha, my unreal ones work well, so just call me blissfully ignorant 😎

i also have a couple of Wasabi, which by comparison are really not good.
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How are the Wasabi not good? They're what I've been using. Besides a slightly less discharge time, I don't see a difference from the OEM.
 
James H MacAllister said:
deednets said:
dd1989 said:
Indeed, most 3rd party (even good ones) Batteries do not have the Thermistor that the OEM one has, but merely a resistor set to measure a specific output to trick chargers and the camera to thinking they are real.
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Haha, my unreal ones work well, so just call me blissfully ignorant 😎

i also have a couple of Wasabi, which by comparison are really not good.
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How are the Wasabi not good? They're what I've been using. Besides a slightly less discharge time, I don't see a difference from the OEM.
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Because my ones only last for a rather short time. I also have a few Wasabi for my RX1 and it's the same issue: nowhere near the performance of the originals.

Bad copies?? Or "fake" Wasabis?? Anything is possible.
 
deednets said:
James H MacAllister said:
deednets said:
dd1989 said:
Indeed, most 3rd party (even good ones) Batteries do not have the Thermistor that the OEM one has, but merely a resistor set to measure a specific output to trick chargers and the camera to thinking they are real.
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Haha, my unreal ones work well, so just call me blissfully ignorant 😎

i also have a couple of Wasabi, which by comparison are really not good.
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How are the Wasabi not good? They're what I've been using. Besides a slightly less discharge time, I don't see a difference from the OEM.
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Because my ones only last for a rather short time. I also have a few Wasabi for my RX1 and it's the same issue: nowhere near the performance of the originals.

Bad copies?? Or "fake" Wasabis?? Anything is possible.
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Mine are only a couple months old, maybe I'll see a faster degradation over the coming months. Otherwise, currently I only see maybe a 25 shot difference from the OEM.
 
Been using Patona and XPro batteries in my XT-2 grip since I got the camera shortly after it's release. They are all NP-W126 and I have had no issues.

That said I am not shooting large amounts of video or much burst which might place high demands on them. I tend to keep an OEM battery in the camera itself.
 
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