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x100V lens vs previous x100 lens
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I'm also anxious to see what all the excitement is about because no matter what people say I think the X100S cameras I've had and the X100F camera I currently use have great lenses.
Naturally, I don't use the camera for macro shots but have shot fairly close up images at f2 without any complaints.
I like everything about that lens from its sharpness to the 3D pop it gives to an image.
Varkdriver
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Nice shots, but those are not macro. Try f2.0 at min focus distance on a central object.
It will get soft. Not a criticism, have owned the X100S and X100F myself.
It will get soft. Not a criticism, have owned the X100S and X100F myself.
Les Lammers
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The new lens appears to be much better.
https://jonasraskphotography.com/20...-first-look-preview-the-desert-island-camera/
JS Burnie
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All I can say is that anyone who has ever bought an X100 series camera for these type shots bought the wrong camera, to begin with.
Just the same, I do agree that the new lens does appear to be better for closeup shots and if someone owns only one camera and normally takes closeup pictures of inanimate objects, the X100V seems to be the better choice.
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You'll likely need to wait until it's in the hand of reviewers other than influencers to get an objective perspective. There is a lot that goes into a lens, and nearly every review thus far has focused on a very narrow envelope (see close focus, at f2) in its assessment.
I made a thread asking for samples with bokeh a few days ago. Often times the sharper pancakes suffer from busy bokeh in my experience. I've seen a few images that suggest that with this new lens, and some others that look really good. Everyone seems so focused on what the old lens didn't do that they're possibly susceptible forgetting what it did do (smooth out of focus transitions, for example, for a lens of this type).
I made a thread asking for samples with bokeh a few days ago. Often times the sharper pancakes suffer from busy bokeh in my experience. I've seen a few images that suggest that with this new lens, and some others that look really good. Everyone seems so focused on what the old lens didn't do that they're possibly susceptible forgetting what it did do (smooth out of focus transitions, for example, for a lens of this type).
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I'm pretty sure the new lens will be an improvement in this regard without any radically visible 'downside'. I don't shoot much macro type stuff but I've found (as many others have) that stopping down to 2.8-4 gives a nice compromise of sharpness and bokeh.
Having suffered 'gas' on many occasions and looked for reasons to justify it, I know the feeling. However the current lens is a fine performer across the board and the upgrade on the V is not going to sway me. I am 100% satisfied with the F. It has been a nearly perfect photographic companion for me and I plan to use it until it is non-functional.
Shooting 'macro' is generally not my thing, but this camera does a credible job of it, and when considering it's style, ruggedness, portability, convenience, and performance in just about every general purpose photographic scenario, I have no hesitation to nominate it as a candidate for the best camera of all time.
f 4.0 few inches range handheld
f 4.0 few inches range handheld
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X100F is an excellent camera! And your macro shots at f4 show it.
At f2 and close focus, its not so great, but most people don't buy this camera for that type of photography.
I welcome the new changes on the X100V, but it won't make me a better photographer by any means. That said, I have it pre-ordered and look forward to receiving it.
At f2 and close focus, its not so great, but most people don't buy this camera for that type of photography.
I welcome the new changes on the X100V, but it won't make me a better photographer by any means. That said, I have it pre-ordered and look forward to receiving it.
I've had the original x100 and still have the x100s. I've never done any macro stuff with them; only street and travel and I've always been very happy with the rendering.
I do have a dirty sensor and/or lens though which I sent to Fuji Service and was told the sensor-lens combo can only be replaced, not opened and cleaned (~$475 plus taxes and shipping ). I can't see the marks on photos unless I shoot a blue sky or a white wall heavily stopped down so I still use it, but I'm also considering getting an F or a V. Maybe the weather-sealing would be a worthwhile feature after all but only as long as the rendering of the lens is still pleasing. Sometimes lens iterations can become too sharp, too "perfect" and exacting, and lose something along the way.
Thanks to everyone who is contributing to this thread, it has turned into some good conversation!
I do have a dirty sensor and/or lens though which I sent to Fuji Service and was told the sensor-lens combo can only be replaced, not opened and cleaned (~$475 plus taxes and shipping ). I can't see the marks on photos unless I shoot a blue sky or a white wall heavily stopped down so I still use it, but I'm also considering getting an F or a V. Maybe the weather-sealing would be a worthwhile feature after all but only as long as the rendering of the lens is still pleasing. Sometimes lens iterations can become too sharp, too "perfect" and exacting, and lose something along the way.
Thanks to everyone who is contributing to this thread, it has turned into some good conversation!
it's funny because I hadn't really considered an X100 until I noticed that it has a 10cm focusing distance. If I look back to when I shot a lot about 10-15 years ago, I did a lot of abstract macro stuff with a high-end point and shoot - and enjoyed it a lot. This looks small enough, close focus, and I already like the sensor output. May be a winner, but I'll make sure to shoot an occasional street photo so I'm using it for the right thingAll I can say is that anyone who has ever bought an X100 series camera for these type shots bought the wrong camera, to begin with.
Just the same, I do agree that the new lens does appear to be better for closeup shots and if someone owns only one camera and normally takes closeup pictures of inanimate objects, the X100V seems to be the better choice.
I just bought a new lens for my film camera that has a closest focus of 0.9 meters so I'm really not concerned about how close the 100 gets. I actually didn't know the close focus spec of the x100 all these years of having it.
Definitely get that street photo for credibility haha! Or the obligatory cat/dog test photo.
Definitely get that street photo for credibility haha! Or the obligatory cat/dog test photo.
I've approached Fuji Singapore with the same problem in my X100F, and I was quoted something like 130 S$ for the cleaning, which is under 100 US$. I didn't go through with it, for the same reason as yours. They didn't say it can't be opened and cleaned, interestingly.
Well, you can use any camera with any lens for whatever type of photography you want but what I'm saying is that if a person does a lot of macro photography they'd be much better off with something other than a camera with a fixed 23mm lens.it's funny because I hadn't really considered an X100 until I noticed that it has a 10cm focusing distance. If I look back to when I shot a lot about 10-15 years ago, I did a lot of abstract macro stuff with a high-end point and shoot - and enjoyed it a lot. This looks small enough, close focus, and I already like the sensor output. May be a winner, but I'll make sure to shoot an occasional street photo so I'm using it for the right thingAll I can say is that anyone who has ever bought an X100 series camera for these type shots bought the wrong camera, to begin with.
Just the same, I do agree that the new lens does appear to be better for closeup shots and if someone owns only one camera and normally takes closeup pictures of inanimate objects, the X100V seems to be the better choice.
Even a small sensor point & shoot camera with a zoom lens would serve you better.
Naturally, from the comments that have been made to your response, I can see there are a lot of forum "experts" who disagree with me.
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