IF Sony discontinues A-Mount and you had to switch; Which system and why?

IF Sony discontinues A-Mount and you had to switch; Which system and why?


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Well I know this sounds like a cop out, but I would have to make the decision when that happens.

The E-mount looks the best at the moment, but if Canon has a really great EOS-RP2, then that might be the go to. Supposedly works great with EF lenses, which are cheaper than E-mount lenses. AND they have those awesome lenses, like the 28-70mm F2.
 
I guess forced to make a choice by the apocalyptic EMP that destroys all A-mount bodies (not that there wouldn't be other far more dire things to worry about at that point), I would have to go E/FE mount mount, mainly because it's very familiar and a lot of lens development is happening there. Of course in order to accomplish that the family will have to get used to eating dirt and living on the streets, but that's a small price to pay for GAS.

In the meantime I will patiently wait for Sony to decide it wants to take my money for a new fantasy top of the line APS-C A77 Mark III.
If A77III will be developing in few month :

A77III winner.

Then A7III or A9 with Laea-3
 
Let's assume all your A-Mount gear stops working and Sony says A-mount is no longer being supported. You can't buy A-mount used either.
Oh, an apocalyptic scenario. I love those!
I mean if you think that's an apocalypse then I guess so?
Nothing other than an apocalypse would make it impossible to buy used A-mount gear. In a non-apocalyptic world it will all remain available for a long time to come.
 
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Just a curious scenario. Let's assume all your A-Mount gear stops working and Sony says A-mount is no longer being supported. You can't buy A-mount used either.

Which system would you "switch to" and why would you pick that system? What camera would you be coming from?

I really want to see everyone's thoughts as someone who has already moved from A-Mount and really misses it at times.
It's an unlikely scenario for the next 3.5 years which is how long I have coverage from Sony against failure or accidental breakage of my A99ii.

Let's suppose in three years, A99ii breaks and Sony says that they can't repair or replace it and will refund my camera and issue credit towards lenses that I can no longer use to their full capacity on E mount (this assumes no new screw AF adapter).

I will extrapolate from the current market, so it might not be very accurate.

Formats: Full frame or APS-c. Medium format is lovely, but completely unnecessary for my needs. If I ever went pro, I'd get a macro and tele lenses for studio work, but nothing other than that. It would affect my choice of gear for non-studio work, though. 4/3 is not an option, I'm afraid. The compactness is awesome, but it comes at a high cost and it's hardly any smaller than APS-c competition -- and APS-c offers shared mount with FF, at least with Sony and Nikon.

DSLRs: No, they're a thing of the past. SLTs work, but the scenario assumes A mount is dead.

Out of the MILC competition:
Nikon: no, just no. Their ergonomics don't speak to me, and the bodies are unnecessarily large. In three years, I think Nikon will not offer full frame below Z5 level and they will force compromises. They might not have sensor stabilization or other features will be cut. I'm also wary of their practices regarding third parties and adapted lenses. We might end up in a situation where Nikon suddenly unwraps a secure communications feature in Z mount and next generation cameras will only work with genuine Z mount lenses or adapted F mount lenses through FTZ but only if the adapter is programmed with the respective lens serial numbers. I mean, it would be very much Nikon to try this.
L mount: Panasonic is going to try to straddle FF and 4/3 and will probably not want to offer lower end FF bodies. They might change this approach, but only time will tell. Leica is a no go from the start due to the price and Sigma is a huge unknown.
Canon: RF mount is extremely promising. However, Canon always gives with one hand and takes away with the other. No sensor stabilization is one such example. They might end up offering it, but it will obviously come with limitations in the first generation (for instance, it will be 5 axis but only with native non-stabilized RF lenses. With stabilized RF lenses or with EF lenses, it's going to correct roll axis only. The next generation will correct for translation movement with some lenses, but will switch between lens IS with macro lenses to 3-axis sensor stabilization depending on focus distance and so on. Only until generation 3 or 4 will they offer actual 5-axis stabilization for all lenses except any legacy lens. That's just how Canon is.
Fujifilm: APS-c only, so probably no. Unless I went professional, in which case their medium format for studio work and APS-c for field work.
Sony: The obvious winner. I mean, the current A7Riv fits the bill for all my needs in a camera. This suggests A7iv will have all the features I want, except maybe just resolution. I think 42 megapixels are perfect for whatever I need, I'd be okay from around 36 megapixels up. I figure A7v will have that or maybe A9iii -- maybe the price will come down enough to make me consider it. Definitely has the best third party lens support.

That apocalyptic scenario has three ways of playing out:
1. My A99ii stops working and there's no new SLT worth purchasing, but I still have my lenses and there's a good screw AF adapter for some system. This would definitely sway my decision towards that system with a good adapter. It could be Sony, but it could just as well be L, RF, or even Z mount.
2. As above, but I also have no good way of using my screw AF lenses. It would depend on other systems' support for SAM/SSM lenses and whether there are good choices for 85 and 135 lenses. For now, this makes Sony the best choice, but it might change.
3. My camera and lenses are gone and I start from scratch. I'll look at options then.
 
I’d probably just do the RX10 series. My rx10IV proved to me it can do everything well on my 2.5 week Southern Africa vacation. And I’d swap with my RX100ii for super small carry. I’d miss the lenses but I’d be good with the RX10.
 
I'm pretty comfortable with my A-mount eco-system (2 bodies and a variety of glass). I've recently dipped my toes into building a mFT eco-system thinking smaller = lighter. That really isn't completely true, good glass has weight. I suspect due to my "crow-like" nature I'll continually be drawn to the next shiny thing...
 
I voted but

1) I'll keep my A-mount stuff

2) If I'd go mirrorless I voted L-mount with no hesitation.

* Brand new system

* Lots of great ideas ergonomic and software

* Great IQ

* Will evolve positively

* An A-mount form factor FF camera 100% mirrorless
 
Upon further reflection (and reexamination of what's currently available on E/FE), I'd probably land on the full frame A7iii today in a "have to switch" scenario.

I want to give the new APS-C E-mount bodies their due, and they have some compelling features, but when I look at my minimum expectations for a new camera circa 2020-ish, just to get the IBIS in an APS-C E-mount A6600 puts you near $2k, which is what a A7iii costs (actually $1800 today with discounts). Better handling, full frame sensor, IBIS, better 4K video implementation, just to name a few. As an APS-C enthusiast currently using the A-mount A77ii who desperately wants to see that model improved, I can't think of a good enough reason to choose their flagship A6600 over the A7iii.
 
i like the looks of the A7 and wouddl save a few bucks and get the II over the III. what i woudl realy like to see tho is A6500 sensor in a A7III body or at least something along those lines i jsut have no love of the 6XXX form factor
 
i have already semi switched by buying the nex5R for snapshots and travels what a fabulous tiny camera....i can also use all my Amount lenses with a dirt cheap dumb adapter (don't have to buy LAEA if you don't require AF).The 35mm 1.8SAM is great on the NEX5R for night walks and using a dirt cheap adapter

In the future i predict i am snatching a used a7R2 when it drops to 800$ price....The A99II used might make more sense but i don't see any serious price drops.
 
i like the looks of the A7 and wouddl save a few bucks and get the II over the III. what i woudl realy like to see tho is A6500 sensor in a A7III body or at least something along those lines i jsut have no love of the 6XXX form factor
I don't get why they don't do that either.

The A5000 has a roomier grip than the A6000 despite having a narrower body. I will add the A6000 looks cool. I liked the A5000 because it looked cheap, inconspicuous.

The A7 series bodies keep getting better. There a better bodies, but they are good enough. I think I need to try one of the third party grip extensions on my A7II.

The little extension of the EVF out from the body on the A7II makes the viewfinder work for me
 
The grip on the A6600 is more substantial now with the new Z battery. It's the only model in the A6xxx series that uses it. But I think it is way overpriced.
 
The A7iii has improved handling in part due to the new bigger Z battery in the grip introduced on the A9, something you wouldn't find in the A7ii. That alone is a big reason to consider the A7iii, the older W battery has always been rightly criticized for being underpowered. It isn't 4K video capable, either.
 
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Currently I shoot with 2 x A99II.

The ergonomics of the a7riv & a9ii are so much better now. However, I don’t want to deal with 60+ megapixels and & I don’t want to give up 40+ megapixels. I would prefer an A9 series camera that has 40+ megapixels but will only purchase it at least 2 years after it’s release date.

If I’m forced to choose now, it has to be a twin pair of a7rIII with L brackets & tape on the exposure compensation dials.

If only Sony releases 15-35mm, 50mm f1.2, 85mm f1.2, & 70-200mm similar to the EOS R system.

If Canon releases an EOS R camera that has similar specs to the A99II I’ll be tempted even if I’ve got to get used to a different zoom direction all over again.
 
I posted RX100VIII which does not exist yet ... given the fact that my current gear should at least last until Sony releases the RX100VII successor ;-) and at that point in time I will be so old that light gear will very likely replace my current A Mount collection anyway :-(
Cheers,
Ralf
The RX100viii will probably be out in another year...will you be that instantly old? ;-)
U got me there.
So make that the R100XI which I will buy simply because it goes up to 11 ;-)
Cheers,
Ralf
 
The RX100viii will probably be out in another year...will you be that instantly old? ;-)
U got me there.
So make that the R100XI which I will buy simply because it goes up to 11 ;-)
Cheers,
Ralf
As in:


or maybe just buy the RX100X and take maximum images? :-O

-Martin P

 
I am with Dave Oddie. I have been looking for a camera with GPS to replace my two A55s but I do not want to give up the GPS. I just do not have a problem with the units I have and I do not see excessive battery drain that some report. I even have an old Canon SX260 with built-in GPS so it cannot be that hard to do. Maybe I should not complain. It saves a lot of money not to upgrade.

Ron
 
For me the usefulness of SLT is that it offers AF more comparable to DSLR than to mirrorless which is weak in lower light levels, and is able to apply AF during video.

If anybody knows another such alternative in stills/video hybrids, please inform me. At the moment it seems to me that Canon is the next best thing with its dual pixel AF, except if I remember rightly the 7D II came with the artificial-appearing limitation that it couldn't apply AF during 50p footage which is what I need for action.

The a77 II whilst also applying some apparently unnecessary limitations on video flexibility with AF, at least means that I can shoot wide open with my lenses and get that AF at the same time.
 
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The a77 II whilst also applying some apparently unnecessary limitations on video flexibility with AF, at least means that I can shoot wide open with my lenses and get that AF at the same time.
With your a77 II, you can shoot video wide open with AF???
 

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