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Because my RX10iv is so great!!!!
 
I feel the same way about my RX100!
 
I agree 100% having got rid of G9 plus lenses and a 7D MkII and lenses. The RX10M4 does everything I need and more.

My old back, hips and shoulders thank me for my consideration :-)
 
tbcass said:
Because my RX10iv is so great!!!!
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Uhm, the RX10IV came out in 2017. It's not exactly an old camera. My "newest" camera is from 2012 but I mostly use a 2005 one these days. It's more that I have not accrued enough interest for buying a new camera... an RX10IV certainly would be nice to have.
 
tbcass said:
Because my RX10iv is so great!!!!
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Feel the same way about my Mk3 .... as I never use Continuous AF , no need for a Mk4 either . so unless the Mk5 significantly improves on single AF and doesn`t compromise that lens , the old Mk3 is here to stay (had it 6 months so far)

this (and the RX100 , also a Mk3) are the reason I`ve ditched Micro 4/3 after TEN years as a personal camera - the 1" sensor has now got close enough for the difference to be minimal (need the best APS-C to see a worthwhile improvement) and given the totally awesome "Bag of primes" lens on the Mk3/4 , I`m using it for some work shoots too

I tried a RX100 Mk6 and yes it was a miracle of a camera for the size getting a 24-200 in there , it`s not got that crystal clarity and edge performance the RX10 optic has throughout its range and the OIS is far from as effective as an RX10 as you`d expect so looks like the Mk3 version of the RX100 with the fast 24-70 will be staying til further notice too as pocket camera

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Dak on cam said:
tbcass said:
Because my RX10iv is so great!!!!
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Uhm, the RX10IV came out in 2017. It's not exactly an old camera. My "newest" camera is from 2012 but I mostly use a 2005 one these days. It's more that I have not accrued enough interest for buying a new camera... an RX10IV certainly would be nice to have.
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I also have my original RX100 from 2012. Since I love to shoot sports with a telephoto lens the RX10iv fits the bill. I bought it about 1 1/2 years ago and it's the first camera I've ever owned that length of time that left me craving nothing more. I also own an A99ii FF camera that is 2 1/2 years old that satisfies my low light high res needs. Between the RX100, RX10iv and A99ii I'm completely satisfied.
 
I’m on week 2 of acquiring a nice used one and it is quite the camera.
 
Unless Sony (or somebody else) comes up with a really whiz bang upgrade that outperforms my RX10iv, I too will be sticking with it for a very long time.
 
Jerry045 said:
Unless Sony (or somebody else) comes up with a really whiz bang upgrade that outperforms my RX10iv, I too will be sticking with it for a very long time.
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It would be very easy for Sony to do a minor evolutionary upgrade, by using the RX100M7's innards in an otherwise unchanged RX10M4. The fact that it hasn't done so suggests that a more ambitious upgrade is in the works. We can only speculate what that might include.
 
Digital Nigel said:
Jerry045 said:
Unless Sony (or somebody else) comes up with a really whiz bang upgrade that outperforms my RX10iv, I too will be sticking with it for a very long time.
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It would be very easy for Sony to do a minor evolutionary upgrade, by using the RX100M7's innards in an otherwise unchanged RX10M4. The fact that it hasn't done so suggests that a more ambitious upgrade is in the works. We can only speculate what that might include.
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I don't think that there is a whole lot of room for a "more ambitious upgrade". 600mm is a good reach and the camera is heavy enough as it is. More of a wide angle would likely impact image quality at longer ranges (and this is a camera made for the long range). Image resolution is as high as makes sense. More sensitivity would be welcome but tricky if it's not just supposed to be noise reduction snake oil but better photon yield. Lens quality is already more or less market-leading, as is dynamic range of the sensor.

So I rather guess that the next change, if any, will be of the more evolutionary kind.
 
Dak on cam said:
Digital Nigel said:
Jerry045 said:
Unless Sony (or somebody else) comes up with a really whiz bang upgrade that outperforms my RX10iv, I too will be sticking with it for a very long time.
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It would be very easy for Sony to do a minor evolutionary upgrade, by using the RX100M7's innards in an otherwise unchanged RX10M4. The fact that it hasn't done so suggests that a more ambitious upgrade is in the works. We can only speculate what that might include.
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I don't think that there is a whole lot of room for a "more ambitious upgrade". 600mm is a good reach and the camera is heavy enough as it is. More of a wide angle would likely impact image quality at longer ranges (and this is a camera made for the long range). Image resolution is as high as makes sense. More sensitivity would be welcome but tricky if it's not just supposed to be noise reduction snake oil but better photon yield. Lens quality is already more or less market-leading, as is dynamic range of the sensor.

So I rather guess that the next change, if any, will be of the more evolutionary kind.
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There are plenty of things Sony could do. For example:
  • Make the body more like the A7/9 series, with the bigger battery, front control wheel, joystick, dual card slots, better EVF. My A7Riii has much better handling than my RX10M3, despite having a smaller body. My FZ1000 also has much better handling.
  • More/better use of computational photography that could provide better NR, higher resolution, sharper images, much better panorama images, etc. Sony's panorama stitching now really lags behind.
  • A wider zoom version. On my latest trip, I used my A7Riii with 12-24 UWA lens far more than I did my RX10M3. I'd love a 15-300 equiv RX10, and would be tempted by an 18-300.
 
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Digital Nigel said:
There are plenty of things Sony could do. For example:
  • Make the body more like the A7/9 series, with the bigger battery, front control wheel, joystick, dual card slots, better EVF. My A7Riii has much better handling than my RX10M3, despite having a smaller body. My FZ1000 also has much better handling.
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Those kind of sensible upgrades are the ones most unlikely will happen as they`re not "sony" - kinda like having a useful touchscreen on the A6000s and having a proper GH5 / DSLR sized body on the A9 for those colossal lenses , it`s not Sony .. I`d like an RX10 which handles like a Nikon D7200 too but think its a pipe dream

Digital Nigel said:
  • More/better use of computational photography that could provide better NR, higher resolution, sharper images, much better panorama images, etc. Sony's panorama stitching now really lags behind.
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Pixel shift would work if they add IBIS to the mix , it`d increase the stabilty too

Digital Nigel said:
  • A wider zoom version. On my latest trip, I used my A7Riii with 12-24 UWA lens far more than I did my RX10M3. I'd love a 15-300 equiv RX10, and would be tempted by an 18-300.
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Agree about making a new wider shorter lens as an "as well as" - 16-300 would be good , it`s be an RX10 Mk2-Mk2 .. the RX100 could do with a 24-105 F1.4-2.8 to replace the Mk3/4/5 but can`t see that happening either
 
Jerry045 said:
Unless Sony (or somebody else) comes up with a really whiz bang upgrade that outperforms my RX10iv, I too will be sticking with it for a very long time.
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And I don't see that happening any time soon without some so far unknown technology breakthrough. Take the RX100vii vs the vi. All I see is a little bit better AF tracking with the vii which I think everybody is making a bigger deal over than it deserves. It isn't like the vi isn't already excellent. I have few complaints with the AF tracking with my RX10iv so a 10v with the 100vii AF capabilities combined with realtime live view at 20fps wouldn't tempt me in the least to part with $1700. When I bought my RX10iv I was using an RX10iii. The AF tracking with the 10iv was a major leap over the 10iii so I did make the plunge because I like to shoot sports.
 
Dak on cam said:
Digital Nigel said:
Jerry045 said:
Unless Sony (or somebody else) comes up with a really whiz bang upgrade that outperforms my RX10iv, I too will be sticking with it for a very long time.
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It would be very easy for Sony to do a minor evolutionary upgrade, by using the RX100M7's innards in an otherwise unchanged RX10M4. The fact that it hasn't done so suggests that a more ambitious upgrade is in the works. We can only speculate what that might include.
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I don't think that there is a whole lot of room for a "more ambitious upgrade".
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I agree with that 100%. The biggest improvement they could make, and even this wouldn't tempt me, would be to allow zooming during burst shooting with full AF.
 
Digital Nigel said:
There are plenty of things Sony could do. For example:
  • Make the body more like the A7/9 series, with the bigger battery, front control wheel, joystick, dual card slots, better EVF. My A7Riii has much better handling than my RX10M3, despite having a smaller body. My FZ1000 also has much better handling.
  • More/better use of computational photography that could provide better NR, higher resolution, sharper images, much better panorama images, etc. Sony's panorama stitching now really lags behind.
  • A wider zoom version. On my latest trip, I used my A7Riii with 12-24 UWA lens far more than I did my RX10M3. I'd love a 15-300 equiv RX10, and would be tempted by an 18-300.
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Nothing there that interests me.
 
tbcass said:
Jerry045 said:
Unless Sony (or somebody else) comes up with a really whiz bang upgrade that outperforms my RX10iv, I too will be sticking with it for a very long time.
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And I don't see that happening any time soon without some so far unknown technology breakthrough. Take the RX100vii vs the vi. All I see is a little bit better AF tracking with the vii which I think everybody is making a bigger deal over than it deserves. It isn't like the vi isn't already excellent. I have few complaints with the AF tracking with my RX10iv so a 10v with the 100vii AF capabilities combined with realtime live view at 20fps wouldn't tempt me in the least to part with $1700. When I bought my RX10iv I was using an RX10iii. The AF tracking with the 10iv was a major leap over the 10iii so I did make the plunge because I like to shoot sports.
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Ah, you'll come to the fork in the road eventually where you and your money part ways.
 
Dak on cam said:
tbcass said:
Jerry045 said:
Unless Sony (or somebody else) comes up with a really whiz bang upgrade that outperforms my RX10iv, I too will be sticking with it for a very long time.
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And I don't see that happening any time soon without some so far unknown technology breakthrough. Take the RX100vii vs the vi. All I see is a little bit better AF tracking with the vii which I think everybody is making a bigger deal over than it deserves. It isn't like the vi isn't already excellent. I have few complaints with the AF tracking with my RX10iv so a 10v with the 100vii AF capabilities combined with realtime live view at 20fps wouldn't tempt me in the least to part with $1700. When I bought my RX10iv I was using an RX10iii. The AF tracking with the 10iv was a major leap over the 10iii so I did make the plunge because I like to shoot sports.
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Ah, you'll come to the fork in the road eventually where you and your money part ways.
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Well it hasn't come yet. I was thinking about buying an RX100vii but when all was said and done I spent $1500 on a new high end laptop instead. There's a lot of things to buy other than cameras.
 
tbcass said:
Dak on cam said:
tbcass said:
Jerry045 said:
Unless Sony (or somebody else) comes up with a really whiz bang upgrade that outperforms my RX10iv, I too will be sticking with it for a very long time.
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And I don't see that happening any time soon without some so far unknown technology breakthrough. Take the RX100vii vs the vi. All I see is a little bit better AF tracking with the vii which I think everybody is making a bigger deal over than it deserves. It isn't like the vi isn't already excellent. I have few complaints with the AF tracking with my RX10iv so a 10v with the 100vii AF capabilities combined with realtime live view at 20fps wouldn't tempt me in the least to part with $1700. When I bought my RX10iv I was using an RX10iii. The AF tracking with the 10iv was a major leap over the 10iii so I did make the plunge because I like to shoot sports.
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Ah, you'll come to the fork in the road eventually where you and your money part ways.
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Well it hasn't come yet. I was thinking about buying an RX100vii but when all was said and done I spent $1500 on a new high end laptop instead. There's a lot of things to buy other than cameras.
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Good for you and enjoy your new laptop.

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