XF 18mm f2 mk2?

vegetaleb · Sep 13, 2019

Now that the range of the 16mm and 23mm are up and complete (16 f1.4, 16 f2.8, 16-80, 16-55, 23 f1.4, 23 mm f2) it will be great if Fuji release finally a 18mm mk2. It will be the only lens that could replace my mighty 16. Hoping these specs:

-F2 (or f1.4 or f1.8) not slower

-WR

-Sharp (surely sharper than the actual 18mm)

-No huge barrel distortion (I wouldn't say no if they use a 23 f2 size instead of pancake)

No 16mm is not 18mm nor is the 23mm, I found that 16 is slightly too wide and 23 (f2) too narrow, so 18mm will be the perfect angle for me

Erik Baumgartner · Sep 13, 2019

vegetaleb said:
Now that the range of the 16mm and 23mm are up and complete (16 f1.4, 16 f2.8, 16-80, 16-55, 23 f1.4, 23 mm f2) it will be great if Fuji release finally a 18mm mk2. It will be the only lens that could replace my mighty 16. Hoping these specs:

-F2 (or f1.4 or f1.8) not slower

-WR

-Sharp (surely sharper than the actual 18mm)

-No huge barrel distortion (I wouldn't say no if they use a 23 f2 size instead of pancake)

No 16mm is not 18mm nor is the 23mm, I found that 16 is slightly too wide and 23 (f2) too narrow, so 18mm will be the perfect angle for me.

I completely agree. I would welcome any premium 18mm f/2 replacement, but I would kill for a an 18mm version of the 16 f/1.4.

pseudobreccia · Sep 13, 2019

vegetaleb said:
Now that the range of the 16mm and 23mm are up and complete (16 f1.4, 16 f2.8, 16-80, 16-55, 23 f1.4, 23 mm f2) it will be great if Fuji release finally a 18mm mk2. It will be the only lens that could replace my mighty 16. Hoping these specs:

-F2 (or f1.4 or f1.8) not slower

-WR

-Sharp (surely sharper than the actual 18mm)

-No huge barrel distortion (I wouldn't say no if they use a 23 f2 size instead of pancake)

No 16mm is not 18mm nor is the 23mm, I found that 16 is slightly too wide and 23 (f2) too narrow, so 18mm will be the perfect angle for me

Perhaps you should move slightly forward with your 16mm.

Erik Baumgartner · Sep 13, 2019

pseudobreccia said:
vegetaleb said:

Now that the range of the 16mm and 23mm are up and complete (16 f1.4, 16 f2.8, 16-80, 16-55, 23 f1.4, 23 mm f2) it will be great if Fuji release finally a 18mm mk2. It will be the only lens that could replace my mighty 16. Hoping these specs:

-F2 (or f1.4 or f1.8) not slower

-WR

-Sharp (surely sharper than the actual 18mm)

-No huge barrel distortion (I wouldn't say no if they use a 23 f2 size instead of pancake)

No 16mm is not 18mm nor is the 23mm, I found that 16 is slightly too wide and 23 (f2) too narrow, so 18mm will be the perfect angle for me

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Perhaps you should move slightly forward with your 16mm.

I’d much rather step back for 16mm and step forward for 23mm.

Touraine · Sep 13, 2019

vegetaleb said:
Now that the range of the 16mm and 23mm are up and complete (16 f1.4, 16 f2.8, 16-80, 16-55, 23 f1.4, 23 mm f2) it will be great if Fuji release finally a 18mm mk2. It will be the only lens that could replace my mighty 16. Hoping these specs:

-F2 (or f1.4 or f1.8) not slower

-WR

-Sharp (surely sharper than the actual 18mm)

-No huge barrel distortion (I wouldn't say no if they use a 23 f2 size instead of pancake)

No 16mm is not 18mm nor is the 23mm, I found that 16 is slightly too wide and 23 (f2) too narrow, so 18mm will be the perfect angle for me

Guessing you don't own a MK1 18mm OP.

Otherwise you would not say such sillyness.

vegetaleb · Sep 13, 2019

pseudobreccia said:
vegetaleb said:

Now that the range of the 16mm and 23mm are up and complete (16 f1.4, 16 f2.8, 16-80, 16-55, 23 f1.4, 23 mm f2) it will be great if Fuji release finally a 18mm mk2. It will be the only lens that could replace my mighty 16. Hoping these specs:

-F2 (or f1.4 or f1.8) not slower

-WR

-Sharp (surely sharper than the actual 18mm)

-No huge barrel distortion (I wouldn't say no if they use a 23 f2 size instead of pancake)

No 16mm is not 18mm nor is the 23mm, I found that 16 is slightly too wide and 23 (f2) too narrow, so 18mm will be the perfect angle for me

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Perhaps you should move slightly forward with your 16mm.

HatWearingFool · Sep 13, 2019

Touraine said:
vegetaleb said:

Now that the range of the 16mm and 23mm are up and complete (16 f1.4, 16 f2.8, 16-80, 16-55, 23 f1.4, 23 mm f2) it will be great if Fuji release finally a 18mm mk2. It will be the only lens that could replace my mighty 16. Hoping these specs:

-F2 (or f1.4 or f1.8) not slower

-WR

-Sharp (surely sharper than the actual 18mm)

-No huge barrel distortion (I wouldn't say no if they use a 23 f2 size instead of pancake)

No 16mm is not 18mm nor is the 23mm, I found that 16 is slightly too wide and 23 (f2) too narrow, so 18mm will be the perfect angle for me

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Guessing you don't own a MK1 18mm OP.

Otherwise you would not say such sillyness.

I have to say, I love the current 18mm just the way it is.

SpeedyNeo · Sep 13, 2019

All what I really want at the moment (lens-wise) is an F2 pancake, smaller than the 27 and maybe slightly wider. Something that can couple with my X-E3 for a walkaround pocketable solution.

vegetaleb · Sep 13, 2019

It doesn't take out the fact that an mk2 can greatly improve it, the mk1 was made in 2013 with old AF and distortions reducing sharpness, it could be good fir some but not for many

OfDaniel · Mar 31, 2020

Erik Baumgartner said:
I completely agree. I would welcome any premium 18mm f/2 replacement, but I would kill for a an 18mm version of the 16 f/1.4.

The 16mm 1.4 is probably closer to 18mm than 16mm in reality.

OfDaniel · Mar 31, 2020

The current 18mm is great. Can’t see any reason for Fuji to update a lens that is only 8 years old.

Chandrahadi Junarto · Mar 31, 2020

OfDaniel said:
OfDaniel said:

I completely agree. I would welcome any premium 18mm f/2 replacement, but I would kill for a an 18mm version of the 16 f/1.4.

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The 16mm 1.4 is probably closer to 18mm than 16mm in reality.

I read this twice in dpr forum, made me seriously thinking about the 16 1.4

vegetaleb · Mar 31, 2020

OfDaniel said:
The current 18mm is great. Can’t see any reason for Fuji to update a lens that is only 8 years old.

Not for landscape

It lacks sharpness border to border

Its AF is slow

The fact that Fuji is not renewing its old lenses is one of the reasons I switched to the Z6

holashobby · Apr 1, 2020

Chandrahadi Junarto said:
OfDaniel said:

Chandrahadi Junarto said:

I completely agree. I would welcome any premium 18mm f/2 replacement, but I would kill for a an 18mm version of the 16 f/1.4.

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The 16mm 1.4 is probably closer to 18mm than 16mm in reality.

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I read this twice in dpr forum, made me seriously thinking about the 16 1.4

The 18f2 and 16f1.4 are very different lenses, as a walk around lens the 18f2 can't be beat. The 16f1.4 has noticeably wider FOV and is a much bigger lens with much better optical performance, the 16 f2.8 is small but unsurprisingly exhibits typical weaknesses associated with compact UWA lenses.

holashobby · Apr 1, 2020

vegetaleb said:
OfDaniel said:

The current 18mm is great. Can’t see any reason for Fuji to update a lens that is only 8 years old.

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Not for landscape

It lacks sharpness border to border

Its AF is slow

The fact that Fuji is not renewing its old lenses is one of the reasons I switched to the Z6

Rod McD · Apr 1, 2020

Hi,

People's uses, standards and experiences differ. Street and casual shooters posting here seem to like the 18/2 (if they use an 18mm). Maybe they concentrate on central subjects. Landscapers love the FL, but not the XF18/2. It just isn't sharp enough in the outer image area and corners. It is bettered by all of the 16's and 23's either side of it in the range and by both the 18-55 and 16-55 zooms at middle apertures. I tried two and re-sold them.

To me the 18/2 has the highest case for a Mark II of all the lenses in Fuji's range. I don't care about the aperture or the AF speed. F2's fine for me. Landscapes aren't shot wide open anyway and they don't move very fast. I'd really welcome optical improvements and accept that it needs to be bigger. I'd like to keep the lens no bigger than the 14mm, with a 58mm filter thread.

I don't understand your earlier comment that the 16/1.4 is closer to an 18mm. My 16/1.4 is noticeably wider than the 18mm I used to own and about the same as the former FF 24mm lenses I owned.

Cheers, Rod

vegetaleb · Apr 1, 2020

holashobby said:
vegetaleb said:

OfDaniel said:

The current 18mm is great. Can’t see any reason for Fuji to update a lens that is only 8 years old.

Click to expand...

Not for landscape

It lacks sharpness border to border

Its AF is slow

The fact that Fuji is not renewing its old lenses is one of the reasons I switched to the Z6

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To the z system that has no pancake lenses at all? Yes, I get it,

I am not searching for pancake but a 18 apsc (28mm FF) FOV, btw Nikon is preparing a 28mm lens that is as small and probably light as the 23mm f2 from Fuji

holashobby · Apr 1, 2020

vegetaleb said:
holashobby said:

vegetaleb said:

OfDaniel said:

The current 18mm is great. Can’t see any reason for Fuji to update a lens that is only 8 years old.

Click to expand...

Not for landscape

It lacks sharpness border to border

Its AF is slow

The fact that Fuji is not renewing its old lenses is one of the reasons I switched to the Z6

Click to expand...

To the z system that has no pancake lenses at all? Yes, I get it,

Click to expand...

I am not searching for pancake but a 18 apsc (28mm FF) FOV, btw Nikon is preparing a 28mm lens that is as small and probably light as the 23mm f2 from Fuji

The lens you are speaking of is scheduled for a 2021 release, is Nikon able to make a compact prime (28 mm FF) that is sharp corner to corner at its largest aperture, we shall see.

bleachfix · Apr 1, 2020

The 18mm f/2 is a pancake, it's amazing a lens this size can have this FL and aperture. For a pancake, it's great, I use mine all the time.

But it's not as good as other full size lenses. I did a group portrait recently and shots with the 18mm were definitely not tack sharp at f/4 and there was some bloom.

I agree with the OP, it would be nice to have another 18mm but not a pancake mk2. A full size, f/1.4

holashobby · Apr 1, 2020

bleachfix said:
.. it would be nice to have another 18mm but not a pancake mk2. A full size, f/1.4

I can get behind that, but will Fuji do that where there is a 14f2.8, 16f2.8 and 16f1.4, it seems unlikely.

XF 18mm f2 mk2?

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