90D disappointment???

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FastUno wrote:.................... I would love to see built-in focus stacking, I would love to see Post Focus, Post Focus stacking & 4K Post Focus stacking...this is the DIGITAL age, where are all these rich features? Another cash grab by Cannon, is anyone else tired of incremental upgrades?
The manual is now available and shows procedures for performing focus stacking. I read through the manual quickly. The various functions and options are staggering and are way, way more than I will ever use.
I think it's a nice camera.

If they would only add IBIS, combo EVF/OVF, and 1dx MK II AF system when mirrored and EOS R AF system when mirrorless that would be great.

I'd like to see a head to head AF comparison between this cam and the SONY A6100. Very interested in seeing how the AF algorithms for both cams stack up.
What you describe sounds like an interesting SLR/mirrorless hybrid. Does such a thing as a combo OVF/EVF even exist?
 
You sure about that? I scanned it quickly too and I saw something about focusing peaking (MF peaking), but not focus stacking. ....
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This is exactly what I want.
I wonder how rapidly it shoots. Not everyone is as steady as a tripod.
You can use it with a tripod if you want. In fact, the manual suggests doing so. It does not say how fast the images are taken. I guess that depends on how fast the motors in the lens can change the focus point. It can do a 999-shot stack, if I understand it correctly I didn’t read it super carefully but I will test it once I get my pre-order
 
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You sure about that? I scanned it quickly too and I saw something about focusing peaking (MF peaking), but not focus stacking. ....
Page 255
This is exactly what I want.
I wonder how rapidly it shoots. Not everyone is as steady as a tripod.
You can use it with a tripod if you want. In fact, the manual suggests doing so. It does not say how fast the images are taken. I guess that depends on how fast the motors in the lens can change the focus point. It can do a 999-shot stack, if I understand it correctly I didn’t read it super carefully but I will test it once I get my pre-order
Of course, and I probably would. Ditto for when using the intervalometer.
 
You sure about that? I scanned it quickly too and I saw something about focusing peaking (MF peaking), but not focus stacking. ....
Page 255
This is exactly what I want.
I wonder how rapidly it shoots. Not everyone is as steady as a tripod.
I would guess 7 frames a sec, as that seems to be the speed in AI Servo
If it is tracking, the camera tops out at 10 FPS. I don’t think it is tracking when stacking, so the 10 FPS would be the upper limit if the lens can force a movement by the selected increment in 1/10 of a second. It will be easier to just wait until it shows up to test it out. It won’t be that long.
 
You sure about that? I scanned it quickly too and I saw something about focusing peaking (MF peaking), but not focus stacking. ....
Page 255
This is exactly what I want.
I wonder how rapidly it shoots. Not everyone is as steady as a tripod.
I would guess 7 frames a sec, as that seems to be the speed in AI Servo
If it is tracking, the camera tops out at 10 FPS. I don’t think it is tracking when stacking, so the 10 FPS would be the upper limit if the lens can force a movement by the selected increment in 1/10 of a second. It will be easier to just wait until it shows up to test it out. It won’t be that long.
I wondered whether it might use some kind of burst mode when stacking.

I agree that all will be known soon enough.
 
I did not think I would have any interest in the focus stacking (bracketing) but after reading the description I am interested. I shoot a lot of macro work and DOF is an issue. I am not sure how many images would be required. With a small aperture to help out, I would guess just a few will do it. Even handheld that might work.
 
You sure about that? I scanned it quickly too and I saw something about focusing peaking (MF peaking), but not focus stacking. ....
Page 255
This is exactly what I want.
I wonder how rapidly it shoots. Not everyone is as steady as a tripod.
I would guess 7 frames a sec, as that seems to be the speed in AI Servo
If it is tracking, the camera tops out at 10 FPS. I don’t think it is tracking when stacking, so the 10 FPS would be the upper limit if the lens can force a movement by the selected increment in 1/10 of a second. It will be easier to just wait until it shows up to test it out. It won’t be that long.
I wondered whether it might use some kind of burst mode when stacking.

I agree that all will be known soon enough.
The exposure time will control the speed of the shots taken in a bracket of shots. So the max FPS of the camera likely won’t play a role unless your exposure time is way less than 1/10 second.
 
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Anyone else sorta bummed at the 90D specs & after some 3.5 yrs time wait in a very competitive market? My phones have better specs now & it is getting harder to justify an upgrade nowadays.

I really wanted 3840 x 2160 @ 60p & 120p would have been nice, but we max out at 3840 x 2160 @ 30. I would love to see built-in focus stacking, I would love to see Post Focus, Post Focus stacking & 4K Post Focus stacking...this is the DIGITAL age, where are all these rich features? Another cash grab by Cannon, is anyone else tired of incremental upgrades?
Do you think all those things you want come for free? :-D
 
I did not think I would have any interest in the focus stacking (bracketing) but after reading the description I am interested. I shoot a lot of macro work and DOF is an issue. I am not sure how many images would be required. With a small aperture to help out, I would guess just a few will do it. Even handheld that might work.
I am shooting handheld with an 80D. With a 100mm macro at f/5 to f/8, shutter about 1/100, I am shooting in manual focus, in a burst mode, and rotating the lens through different focus points. I am actually doing pretty well that way, generally throwing away the outer edges, maybe 10%. The end stacked photo shows few issues and a much improved DOF. I'll generally have 8-15 usable images to stack.
 
I did not think I would have any interest in the focus stacking (bracketing) but after reading the description I am interested. I shoot a lot of macro work and DOF is an issue. I am not sure how many images would be required. With a small aperture to help out, I would guess just a few will do it. Even handheld that might work.
I am shooting handheld with an 80D. With a 100mm macro at f/5 to f/8, shutter about 1/100, I am shooting in manual focus, in a burst mode, and rotating the lens through different focus points. I am actually doing pretty well that way, generally throwing away the outer edges, maybe 10%. The end stacked photo shows few issues and a much improved DOF. I'll generally have 8-15 usable images to stack.
Aren't you going to toot your own horn?

https://pbase.com/cichallenge/image/169667478
 
Where did you get the 90-D manual ??? I cannot find it I did one site that claimed to have it but doesn't work for me.
 
Seems to me if you want a top line still or video camera you have to buy one of each. That these DSLR's do video as well as they do is just a bonus for those of us mostly shooting stills.
 
Don't you love it when you get these posts and the OP disappears?

Kent
 
I did not think I would have any interest in the focus stacking (bracketing) but after reading the description I am interested. I shoot a lot of macro work and DOF is an issue. I am not sure how many images would be required. With a small aperture to help out, I would guess just a few will do it.
Focus stacking tends to be used in one of two ways. Sometimes the aim is to create an image which is similar to a single frame taken at a small aperture (say f/16), but of much higher quality due to using a larger aperture (say f/5.6) to collect more light and to avoid diffraction softening which can be very significant. It also avoids bringing an unwanted background into focus. Sometimes, however, the aim is to create an image which could not have been taken by conventional means - I think of these as 'extreme' focus stacking.

The first of these might typically require 10, 15, 20 frames or something in that region, and with modern stacking software which copes well with slight misalignments between frames, along with good technique, they can be taken handheld although a tripod is generally recommended. Sometimes as little as three or four frames will result in a big improvement versus the single frame.

Extreme focus stacking is a different kettle of fish, requiring a solid setup, inanimate subjects, and a focus rail to aid in making very tiny focusing adjustments. There even motor driven, programmable focus rails.

There is a ton of information online if you want to learn more.
Even handheld that might work.
Yes, as noted above, but I don't know how good the in-camera software is.
 
Where did you get the 90-D manual ??? I cannot find it I did one site that claimed to have it but doesn't work for me.
 

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