Harold who had bought more than one copy of GR2 as backup must be a lunatic. Whatever he may be his decision looks increasingly relevant.
Maybe dpreview is equipped with some low-grade monitors when they reported issues in jpeg colors of GR3.
Highly likely. I learned that its important to research and buy a good photo monitor. The one I recently got at my work, still not the best out there but it is 4K, 28" and 10 bit.
If you are right then not only the credibility of dpreview review is in jeopardy but also dpreview may be charged with feeding false information and misleading people. I am afraid this is a serious allegation. But as it looks you are convinced with your assertion why not, no you should, make an inquiry to dpreview and let us know what you have found out before dpreview makes you legally responsible? This is not a laughable matter. You’d better clear up the air.
I retract my statement, I misread your meaning, its highly likely they have good monitors. I can imagine they use the best photo screens that are available.
I'm surprised at how muted the ACR processing is - at first I thought it's the settings DPR is using, but nope, they're like that by default.
James, you are trolling. Multiple people have patiently explained color profiles to you. The GR doesn't have "a" color, muted or not. Neither does any other digital camera including Nikon. There is no way you can't understand this, but you just refuse to admit it. This is where you should maybe just go to hell.
Really ? can you tell us WHY you felt the need to add this last sentence ?
Probably just came straight from the heart. I prefer that over all the trolling polluting this forum.
You are looking through wrong glasses.
Still waiting for some sort of admission of error from Mr Bligh.You are looking through wrong glasses.
There is no evidence of progressing colour desaturation in raw as ISO climbs up.
Here is Ricoh GRIII at ISO 100 vs. Ricoh GRIII at ISO 6400, compared from raw data. Colorimetrically there is no difference:
Changing to dE00 or using a shot at ISO 12800 is is easy to see that due to lower exposure on the 6400 shot the difference is due to noise, flare, and glare.
CGATS files http://s3.amazonaws.com/IliahBorg/Ricoh GRIII CC24 CGATS.zip were obtained with RawDigger from the DPReview Studio Scene using linear normalization for the white patch to be 242 RGB, linear white balance from B4 patch (the one to the right of the white patch), output gamma 2.2.
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I don't think you'll see any.Still waiting for some sort of admission of error from Mr Bligh.You are looking through wrong glasses.
There is no evidence of progressing colour desaturation in raw as ISO climbs up.
Here is Ricoh GRIII at ISO 100 vs. Ricoh GRIII at ISO 6400, compared from raw data. Colorimetrically there is no difference:
Changing to dE00 or using a shot at ISO 12800 is is easy to see that due to lower exposure on the 6400 shot the difference is due to noise, flare, and glare.
CGATS files http://s3.amazonaws.com/IliahBorg/Ricoh GRIII CC24 CGATS.zip were obtained with RawDigger from the DPReview Studio Scene using linear normalization for the white patch to be 242 RGB, linear white balance from B4 patch (the one to the right of the white patch), output gamma 2.2.
Comparing ColorChecker data from a Ricoh GRIII raw shot processed with profile applied to ColorChecker spectral reference data I got maximum dE94 less than 4. This doesn't raise any colour accuracy or "dulling" alarms.I don't think you'll see any.Still waiting for some sort of admission of error from Mr Bligh.You are looking through wrong glasses.
There is no evidence of progressing colour desaturation in raw as ISO climbs up.
Here is Ricoh GRIII at ISO 100 vs. Ricoh GRIII at ISO 6400, compared from raw data. Colorimetrically there is no difference:
Changing to dE00 or using a shot at ISO 12800 is is easy to see that due to lower exposure on the 6400 shot the difference is due to noise, flare, and glare.
CGATS files http://s3.amazonaws.com/IliahBorg/Ricoh GRIII CC24 CGATS.zip were obtained with RawDigger from the DPReview Studio Scene using linear normalization for the white patch to be 242 RGB, linear white balance from B4 patch (the one to the right of the white patch), output gamma 2.2.
At some point he started talking about "Premature color desaturation of GR3 RAW"; he only have to claim that RAWs are dulled <rolling eyes> uniformly at all ISOs (by what? Applying same amount of NR from ISO100 to 12800+?).
Or somebody's monitor calibration, for example.
I said 'premature' you said 'progressive'. If you want me to be more specific, I may say premature for color, progressive for noise. Considering NR usually causes desaturation of color, if one witnesses more desaturation one may presume more NR is applied which usually have been the case in high ISO.
You said "color desaturation in RAW as ISO climbs up is not adequately addressed"
See https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/62686942 - is there any colour desaturation, objectively, by numbers? What proof of your own do you have that there is any premature desaturation "in raw"?
Please provide your data supporting the progressive NR suggestion (in terms of resolution loss or MTF).
It can be either way.
What my eyes see says so. You may argue about reliability of testimony. One very important factor in deciding reliability is consistency of testimony of which I think I excelled.
I did not say progressive I said premature.
That you're making up theories on the spot, just to bash this fine camera.
It doesn't make any sense to apply the same noise reduction regardless of the ISO. And by your own admission NR is applied from ISO 200 which leaves ISO 100 out. Yet there's no desaturation from ISO 100 up.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. So far, you have no evidence - only claims.
Reviews documenting a made up issue? Bashing a product without any reason?
So you say what? You are saying you are a genius? Or rather a mind-reading expert? Be blessed upon what you are.
I will say I am consistent. You may not acknowledge it but consistency is one of the highest virtues in a character.
