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Fuji's financial year has just come to an end, so they have released their financial data. A copy is available here:

https://www.fujifilmholdings.com/en/pdf/investors/finance/materials/ff_2019q4_001.pdf

If you want to cut to the chase, you go straight to the imaging division, then look at Electronic Imaging. That includes all Fuji's digital cameras and lenses. Optical refers to other devices, photo imaging to Instax and analogue products, so those can be ignored.

There is good and bad news in the full year accounts. On a year by year basis, Fuji managed to best their 2017 annus mirabilis, in which their revenue increased 27% in one year. On the other hand, their revenue increased by only 2% this year, though ignoring currency fluctuations that would be 3.4%.

On a quarter by quarter basis, they are actually slightly down on last year, though only imperceptibly once currency fluctuations are taken into account (-0.6%). The big fluctuations in quarterly data make it hard to draw reliable conclusions from quarterly data, however.

In short, it seems that Fuji are still growing at present, but only slowly. In a shrinking market is not necessarily a bad thing - Canon's recent results showed strong contraction, and Sony only showed growth of around 2% over the year, with a much weaker final quarter. As for the others, Nikon and Olympus are yet to report, Pentax and Leica are now a rounding error in the market, and Panasonic don't split out digital cameras and lenses in any meaningful way.

As I explained in similar posts of this type, I concentrate on revenue because that is more relevant to us as photographers.

Although not many mounts have actually disappeared, In a shrinking or at best static market, the default reaction of manufacturers is to cut costs and R&D investment to ensure they remain profitable despite falling revenues. As consumers, we want Fuji to be successful not in milking a core market (us!) but in expanding or at least maintaining their position at the expense of their rivals. That means pricing and iterating technology aggressively, which we benefit from, while Fuji take the risk.

On the other hand, profit is a double-edged sword for photographers. We want Fuji to make a profit on cameras and lenses, so that it stays in the market. However, we really want it to be investing its income in R&D and tooling for new products, which suppresses profit, not to pay out big dividends to its shareholders.
 
Fuji's financial year has just come to an end, so they have released their financial data. A copy is available here:

https://www.fujifilmholdings.com/en/pdf/investors/finance/materials/ff_2019q4_001.pdf

If you want to cut to the chase, you go straight to the imaging division, then look at Electronic Imaging. That includes all Fuji's digital cameras and lenses. Optical refers to other devices, photo imaging to Instax and analogue products, so those can be ignored.

There is good and bad news in the full year accounts. On a year by year basis, Fuji managed to best their 2017 annus mirabilis, in which their revenue increased 27% in one year. On the other hand, their revenue increased by only 2% this year, though ignoring currency fluctuations that would be 3.4%.

On a quarter by quarter basis, they are actually slightly down on last year, though only imperceptibly once currency fluctuations are taken into account (-0.6%). The big fluctuations in quarterly data make it hard to draw reliable conclusions from quarterly data, however.

In short, it seems that Fuji are still growing at present, but only slowly. In a shrinking market is not necessarily a bad thing - Canon's recent results showed strong contraction, and Sony only showed growth of around 2% over the year, with a much weaker final quarter. As for the others, Nikon and Olympus are yet to report, Pentax and Leica are now a rounding error in the market, and Panasonic don't split out digital cameras and lenses in any meaningful way.

As I explained in similar posts of this type, I concentrate on revenue because that is more relevant to us as photographers.

Although not many mounts have actually disappeared, In a shrinking or at best static market, the default reaction of manufacturers is to cut costs and R&D investment to ensure they remain profitable despite falling revenues. As consumers, we want Fuji to be successful not in milking a core market (us!) but in expanding or at least maintaining their position at the expense of their rivals. That means pricing and iterating technology aggressively, which we benefit from, while Fuji take the risk.

On the other hand, profit is a double-edged sword for photographers. We want Fuji to make a profit on cameras and lenses, so that it stays in the market. However, we really want it to be investing its income in R&D and tooling for new products, which suppresses profit, not to pay out big dividends to its shareholders.
If Fuji wants to own the aps-c / crop sensor market they need to make an x-t100i, ie ibis, Bayer, pasm, with the fastest processor they can and flog it for £750🤔
 
Let's see if they manage to sustain this level. Apart from the big 3 (Canon, Nikon, Sony), here in Portugal, Fujifilm are amongst the ones that still have a "presence" in the shops; the others being Leica, Olympus, and Panasonic.

Ricoh/Pentax seem to have completely vanish.
 
Nikon has now released their full year financial information, so I can now update my approximate market share calculations.

Canon continue to lead, though their latest forecast is 500 billion Yen for the current financial year. Nikon's forecast is 260 billion Yen. Sony are harder to gauge, as their imaging sector contains so many other products. The best information from a presentation last year was that they had 20% of a 1.4 trillion Yen market, which would equate to 280 billion Yen. Given their revenue has increased very slowly since, I would guess about 280 billion Yen for the current year too. Fuji is on about 90 billion Yen for last year, and since they don't provide a forecast, I will assume that stays steady. Olympus's latest forecast was 50 billion Yen.

Assuming the rest of the market (Leica, Panasonic, Pentax etc) is on about 120 billion Yen, that would leave the whole market at 1.3 trillion Yen, and Fuji's share of that market would be about 7%. Canon would lead the way on 38%, Sony would be about 22%, Nikon 20%, Olympus would be on 4%, with others on 9%.
 
Nikon has now released their full year financial information, so I can now update my approximate market share calculations.

Canon continue to lead, though their latest forecast is 500 billion Yen for the current financial year. Nikon's forecast is 260 billion Yen. Sony are harder to gauge, as their imaging sector contains so many other products. The best information from a presentation last year was that they had 20% of a 1.4 trillion Yen market, which would equate to 280 billion Yen. Given their revenue has increased very slowly since, I would guess about 280 billion Yen for the current year too. Fuji is on about 90 billion Yen for last year, and since they don't provide a forecast, I will assume that stays steady. Olympus's latest forecast was 50 billion Yen.

Assuming the rest of the market (Leica, Panasonic, Pentax etc) is on about 120 billion Yen, that would leave the whole market at 1.3 trillion Yen, and Fuji's share of that market would be about 7%. Canon would lead the way on 38%, Sony would be about 22%, Nikon 20%, Olympus would be on 4%, with others on 9%.
This is very enlightening analysis. Thanks for the info.

With around 7% share in this shrinking market, I am not hopeful Fuji can keep up R&D budgets for much longer.
 
Nikon has now released their full year financial information, so I can now update my approximate market share calculations.

Canon continue to lead, though their latest forecast is 500 billion Yen for the current financial year. Nikon's forecast is 260 billion Yen. Sony are harder to gauge, as their imaging sector contains so many other products. The best information from a presentation last year was that they had 20% of a 1.4 trillion Yen market, which would equate to 280 billion Yen. Given their revenue has increased very slowly since, I would guess about 280 billion Yen for the current year too. Fuji is on about 90 billion Yen for last year, and since they don't provide a forecast, I will assume that stays steady. Olympus's latest forecast was 50 billion Yen.

Assuming the rest of the market (Leica, Panasonic, Pentax etc) is on about 120 billion Yen, that would leave the whole market at 1.3 trillion Yen, and Fuji's share of that market would be about 7%. Canon would lead the way on 38%, Sony would be about 22%, Nikon 20%, Olympus would be on 4%, with others on 9%.
Sony wants to have parity with Canon, depending on their next lens releases it could happen and eventually overtake Canon within 5 years. Nikon still seems on a downward sprial although they probably can sustain things now with better and better and z's. Fuji seem steady, they are betting on more pro's using the Gfx. That leaves Oly a little exposed as Pana move forward with their new FF and will only improve, the 47mp sensor apparently is one of the best and might steal a lot of sales from Gfx as well as a7r3/d850/z7 etc. Panasonic is the dark horse and their video milc supporters is strong too.
 
If Fuji wants to own the aps-c / crop sensor market they need to make an x-t100i, ie ibis, Bayer, pasm, with the fastest processor they can and flog it for £750🤔
they need to use the XT100 sensor in EVERY camera & get the AF to A6400 level, and Put IBIS in the XT & XE series - dump the XT100 as it won't be needed as the XT40 (Now bayer powered and hopefully without the disasterous ergonomics of the XT30) will be its effective replacement and then put an EVF in the XA5 replacement to kick the old Sony A6000 off its best value cheap plastic mirrorless body position ... it`d be a Grand slam ..

they also need to get an XH2 onto the market - their flagship sports camera`s AF being usurped by a budget model (XT30) isn`t good

They could do with revising some of their lens prices too

******* ALL IMO OF COURSE ******

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Fuji's financial year has just come to an end, so they have released their financial data. A copy is available here:

https://www.fujifilmholdings.com/en/pdf/investors/finance/materials/ff_2019q4_001.pdf

If you want to cut to the chase, you go straight to the imaging division, then look at Electronic Imaging. That includes all Fuji's digital cameras and lenses. Optical refers to other devices, photo imaging to Instax and analogue products, so those can be ignored.

There is good and bad news in the full year accounts. On a year by year basis, Fuji managed to best their 2017 annus mirabilis, in which their revenue increased 27% in one year. On the other hand, their revenue increased by only 2% this year, though ignoring currency fluctuations that would be 3.4%.

On a quarter by quarter basis, they are actually slightly down on last year, though only imperceptibly once currency fluctuations are taken into account (-0.6%). The big fluctuations in quarterly data make it hard to draw reliable conclusions from quarterly data, however.

In short, it seems that Fuji are still growing at present, but only slowly. In a shrinking market is not necessarily a bad thing - Canon's recent results showed strong contraction, and Sony only showed growth of around 2% over the year, with a much weaker final quarter. As for the others, Nikon and Olympus are yet to report, Pentax and Leica are now a rounding error in the market, and Panasonic don't split out digital cameras and lenses in any meaningful way.

As I explained in similar posts of this type, I concentrate on revenue because that is more relevant to us as photographers.

Although not many mounts have actually disappeared, In a shrinking or at best static market, the default reaction of manufacturers is to cut costs and R&D investment to ensure they remain profitable despite falling revenues. As consumers, we want Fuji to be successful not in milking a core market (us!) but in expanding or at least maintaining their position at the expense of their rivals. That means pricing and iterating technology aggressively, which we benefit from, while Fuji take the risk.

On the other hand, profit is a double-edged sword for photographers. We want Fuji to make a profit on cameras and lenses, so that it stays in the market. However, we really want it to be investing its income in R&D and tooling for new products, which suppresses profit, not to pay out big dividends to its shareholders.
Not sure they have to spend lot's of money in research, I see Fuji as a good integrator, they do the job quite well in this area. Today, a lot relies on the sensor, especially with mirrorless cameras. The focus is on the sensor, we are now waiting for the global shutter. I don't think they spend a lot of money in research on the organic sensor.

The major big leap with Fuji always corresponds to the integration of a new sensor.. x-h1 may be the exception but they did not really invent IBIS.
 
Nikon has now released their full year financial information, so I can now update my approximate market share calculations.

Canon continue to lead, though their latest forecast is 500 billion Yen for the current financial year. Nikon's forecast is 260 billion Yen. Sony are harder to gauge, as their imaging sector contains so many other products. The best information from a presentation last year was that they had 20% of a 1.4 trillion Yen market, which would equate to 280 billion Yen. Given their revenue has increased very slowly since, I would guess about 280 billion Yen for the current year too. Fuji is on about 90 billion Yen for last year, and since they don't provide a forecast, I will assume that stays steady. Olympus's latest forecast was 50 billion Yen.

Assuming the rest of the market (Leica, Panasonic, Pentax etc) is on about 120 billion Yen, that would leave the whole market at 1.3 trillion Yen, and Fuji's share of that market would be about 7%. Canon would lead the way on 38%, Sony would be about 22%, Nikon 20%, Olympus would be on 4%, with others on 9%.
This is very enlightening analysis. Thanks for the info.

With around 7% share in this shrinking market, I am not hopeful Fuji can keep up R&D budgets for much longer.
The key issue for R&D spend is whether their market share is growing or not, not where it stands at present. As it is, their existing R&D spend is 'working' because their market share is growing, though only their management will know if they are meeting their targets in that respect.

Don't forget, even three years ago it was inconceivable Fuji would have more market share than Olympus, or could have about a third of Nikon's market share.
 
If Fuji wants to own the aps-c / crop sensor market they need to make an x-t100i, ie ibis, Bayer, pasm, with the fastest processor they can and flog it for £750🤔
they need to use the XT100 sensor in EVERY camera & get the AF to A6400 level, and Put IBIS in the XT & XE series - dump the XT100 as it won't be needed as the XT40 (Now bayer powered and hopefully without the disasterous ergonomics of the XT30) will be its effective replacement and then put an EVF in the XA5 replacement to kick the old Sony A6000 off its best value cheap plastic mirrorless body position ... it`d be a Grand slam ..

they also need to get an XH2 onto the market - their flagship sports camera`s AF being usurped by a budget model (XT30) isn`t good

They could do with revising some of their lens prices too

******* ALL IMO OF COURSE ******
If Sony do make a move on aps-c, a7 body, 6400 af, ibis, 4k60p, then it could also go the other way. Panasonic might also be a big threat to gfx, Leica glass on that 47mp sensor with ibis, nice!. Fuji have a loyal following but need to do something with ibis, bayer, pasm, a6400 af imo very soon!
 
If Sony do make a move on aps-c, a7 body, 6400 af, ibis, 4k60p, then it could also go the other way.
they`ve got to make glass first - they`ve not managed to make an even acceptable standard zoom for APS-C in 10 years for the system at any price and the FF ones below the G-Masters range from Questionable to awful .
Panasonic might also be a big threat to gfx, Leica glass on that 47mp sensor with ibis, nice!. Fuji have a loyal following but need to do something with ibis, bayer, pasm, a6400 af imo very soon!
Neither the GFX or Leica glass are money spinners due to being mega expensive and the S1 is way overpriced - if the S1 halves in price and Pan make a shedload of zooms (and unlike Sony they`re capable) they`ll be into the FF market good style, that`s for sure - Canon have flunked it , Nikon`s Z7 is no D850 too
 
Who cares? Wasting your time caring one way or the other about Fuji's financials will have NO bearing on Fuji's financials. Care about the important things in life that you can actually impact and get out there and shoot some photos!
 
If Fuji wants to own the aps-c / crop sensor market they need to make an x-t100i, ie ibis, Bayer, pasm, with the fastest processor they can and flog it for £750🤔
they need to use the XT100 sensor in EVERY camera & get the AF to A6400 level, and Put IBIS in the XT & XE series - dump the XT100 as it won't be needed as the XT40 (Now bayer powered and hopefully without the disasterous ergonomics of the XT30) will be its effective replacement and then put an EVF in the XA5 replacement to kick the old Sony A6000 off its best value cheap plastic mirrorless body position ... it`d be a Grand slam ..

they also need to get an XH2 onto the market - their flagship sports camera`s AF being usurped by a budget model (XT30) isn`t good

They could do with revising some of their lens prices too

******* ALL IMO OF COURSE ******
they "should" but won't at this time since they're now playing their customers as has every other camera manufacturer even as the ship is going down
 
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Nikon has now released their full year financial information, so I can now update my approximate market share calculations.

Canon continue to lead, though their latest forecast is 500 billion Yen for the current financial year. Nikon's forecast is 260 billion Yen. Sony are harder to gauge, as their imaging sector contains so many other products. The best information from a presentation last year was that they had 20% of a 1.4 trillion Yen market, which would equate to 280 billion Yen. Given their revenue has increased very slowly since, I would guess about 280 billion Yen for the current year too. Fuji is on about 90 billion Yen for last year, and since they don't provide a forecast, I will assume that stays steady. Olympus's latest forecast was 50 billion Yen.

Assuming the rest of the market (Leica, Panasonic, Pentax etc) is on about 120 billion Yen, that would leave the whole market at 1.3 trillion Yen, and Fuji's share of that market would be about 7%. Canon would lead the way on 38%, Sony would be about 22%, Nikon 20%, Olympus would be on 4%, with others on 9%.
This is very enlightening analysis. Thanks for the info.

With around 7% share in this shrinking market, I am not hopeful Fuji can keep up R&D budgets for much longer.
or they'll just have to move the China factory to Somalia, huuuum
 
Neither the GFX or Leica glass are money spinners due to being mega expensive and the S1 is way overpriced - if the S1 halves in price and Pan make a shedload of zooms (and unlike Sony they`re capable) they`ll be into the FF market good style, that`s for sure - Canon have flunked it , Nikon`s Z7 is no D850 too
don't worry about Leica's strategy, , they we the first man up and will be the last one standing
 
Nikon has now released their full year financial information, so I can now update my approximate market share calculations.

Canon continue to lead, though their latest forecast is 500 billion Yen for the current financial year. Nikon's forecast is 260 billion Yen. Sony are harder to gauge, as their imaging sector contains so many other products. The best information from a presentation last year was that they had 20% of a 1.4 trillion Yen market, which would equate to 280 billion Yen. Given their revenue has increased very slowly since, I would guess about 280 billion Yen for the current year too. Fuji is on about 90 billion Yen for last year, and since they don't provide a forecast, I will assume that stays steady. Olympus's latest forecast was 50 billion Yen.

Assuming the rest of the market (Leica, Panasonic, Pentax etc) is on about 120 billion Yen, that would leave the whole market at 1.3 trillion Yen, and Fuji's share of that market would be about 7%. Canon would lead the way on 38%, Sony would be about 22%, Nikon 20%, Olympus would be on 4%, with others on 9%.
This is very enlightening analysis. Thanks for the info.

With around 7% share in this shrinking market, I am not hopeful Fuji can keep up R&D budgets for much longer.
The key issue for R&D spend is whether their market share is growing or not, not where it stands at present. As it is, their existing R&D spend is 'working' because their market share is growing, though only their management will know if they are meeting their targets in that respect.

Don't forget, even three years ago it was inconceivable Fuji would have more market share than Olympus, or could have about a third of Nikon's market share.
R&D spending is a funny thing. Sometimes you get unique products at attractive pricing that might get you market share. Sometimes you avoid the commodity trap for your product (constant price erosion) and sometimes it’s a total waste of money and resources.

I don’t know where Fuji falls in this spectrum...
 
Fuji's financial year has just come to an end, so they have released their financial data. A copy is available here:

https://www.fujifilmholdings.com/en/pdf/investors/finance/materials/ff_2019q4_001.pdf

If you want to cut to the chase, you go straight to the imaging division, then look at Electronic Imaging. That includes all Fuji's digital cameras and lenses. Optical refers to other devices, photo imaging to Instax and analogue products, so those can be ignored.

There is good and bad news in the full year accounts. On a year by year basis, Fuji managed to best their 2017 annus mirabilis, in which their revenue increased 27% in one year. On the other hand, their revenue increased by only 2% this year, though ignoring currency fluctuations that would be 3.4%.
From a commercial/financial perspective Revenues don't mean much. If you want to understand how well the Fuji camera division is going, look for the Operating Income which is decreased by 8,4% vs 2017, but fortunately still positive at 51bY.

If you are interested in Market Share data, then you should look for volumes (camera items), e.g. how many cameras did Fuji sell in 2017. If this information is not available, then you are forced to check the Revenues, but still this doesn't give the whole picture...

In short, it seems that Fuji are still growing at present, but only slowly.
What do you mean growing? Their profits were lower and this is no1 priority for the companies. If you mean the sales are growing, again you don't know the volume or the product mix. For example they might have sold 100 MF cameras with the same revenue value as 500 ML cameras. Which of the two scenarios do you consider "growing"?
In a shrinking market is not necessarily a bad thing -
I agree, its not a bad thing, but overall I see the camera business shrinking fast which means that apart from professional photographers in 5-10 years all other people will be left either with the mobile phones or with older cameras.
Canon's recent results showed strong contraction, and Sony only showed growth of around 2% over the year, with a much weaker final quarter. As for the others, Nikon and Olympus are yet to report, Pentax and Leica are now a rounding error in the market, and Panasonic don't split out digital cameras and lenses in any meaningful way.

As I explained in similar posts of this type, I concentrate on revenue because that is more relevant to us as photographers.
I believe you are wrong in this as explained above. Revenues don't mean much... As a professional doing various sales roles for the last 12 years, I only mention the higher revenues when my actual numbers are not good (YoY) and I am trying to show a better picture. However every experienced professional knows that Revenues have no importance if the Operating Income is not there.
Although not many mounts have actually disappeared, In a shrinking or at best static market, the default reaction of manufacturers is to cut costs and R&D investment to ensure they remain profitable despite falling revenues. As consumers, we want Fuji to be successful not in milking a core market (us!) but in expanding or at least maintaining their position at the expense of their rivals. That means pricing and iterating technology aggressively, which we benefit from, while Fuji take the risk.

On the other hand, profit is a double-edged sword for photographers. We want Fuji to make a profit on cameras and lenses, so that it stays in the market. However, we really want it to be investing its income in R&D and tooling for new products, which suppresses profit, not to pay out big dividends to its shareholders.
Exactly! If they don't make enough profits, they will simply move to another market, abandoning the photographers.
 
Fuji's financial year has just come to an end, so they have released their financial data. A copy is available here:

https://www.fujifilmholdings.com/en/pdf/investors/finance/materials/ff_2019q4_001.pdf

If you want to cut to the chase, you go straight to the imaging division, then look at Electronic Imaging. That includes all Fuji's digital cameras and lenses. Optical refers to other devices, photo imaging to Instax and analogue products, so those can be ignored.

There is good and bad news in the full year accounts. On a year by year basis, Fuji managed to best their 2017 annus mirabilis, in which their revenue increased 27% in one year. On the other hand, their revenue increased by only 2% this year, though ignoring currency fluctuations that would be 3.4%.
From a commercial/financial perspective Revenues don't mean much. If you want to understand how well the Fuji camera division is going, look for the Operating Income which is decreased by 8,4% vs 2017, but fortunately still positive at 51bY.
I would argue that Revenue is important - even for literal investors - when you are looking at proprietary mount. All the main camera manufacturers are now pushing relatively new proprietary systems on the public, and are trying to build up an installed base of users that they can then profit from in due course. This requires investment in R&D, marketing and tooling that suppresses profits. The idea is that this will be repaid later, when less investment is required. That means low profits can be a sign of investment, not failure.

However, for photographers, growth in Revenue is particularly important. I am not sure that in a shrinking market, there is space for all the current systems. Some - like Sony A mount - already seem to be mothballed. You don't have to be a gearhead to be concerned about that prospect.
If you are interested in Market Share data, then you should look for volumes (camera items), e.g. how many cameras did Fuji sell in 2017. If this information is not available, then you are forced to check the Revenues, but still this doesn't give the whole picture...
Fuji don't give unit volumes. However, in any case, unit volumes are particularly misleading at the minute. Everyone - to a greater or lesser degree- is trying to move upmarket and sell fewer, more expensive units. If you use unit volumes to measure market share, you end up penalising companies that are succeeding in that goal, and rewarding those that are failing.
In short, it seems that Fuji are still growing at present, but only slowly.
What do you mean growing? Their profits were lower and this is no1 priority for the companies. If you mean the sales are growing, again you don't know the volume or the product mix. For example they might have sold 100 MF cameras with the same revenue value as 500 ML cameras. Which of the two scenarios do you consider "growing"?
Well that would be a flat market, with 'lower unit sales and an improved product mix' as most camera manufacturers have been saying for the last few years.
In a shrinking market is not necessarily a bad thing -
I agree, its not a bad thing, but overall I see the camera business shrinking fast which means that apart from professional photographers in 5-10 years all other people will be left either with the mobile phones or with older cameras.
Canon's recent results showed strong contraction, and Sony only showed growth of around 2% over the year, with a much weaker final quarter. As for the others, Nikon and Olympus are yet to report, Pentax and Leica are now a rounding error in the market, and Panasonic don't split out digital cameras and lenses in any meaningful way.

As I explained in similar posts of this type, I concentrate on revenue because that is more relevant to us as photographers.
I believe you are wrong in this as explained above. Revenues don't mean much... As a professional doing various sales roles for the last 12 years, I only mention the higher revenues when my actual numbers are not good (YoY) and I am trying to show a better picture. However every experienced professional knows that Revenues have no importance if the Operating Income is not there.
It depends what you are selling. If you sell something like TVs, profit is more important than revenue. Sell them too cheap, and you will gain market share but will still lose money, and won't get any tangible benefit. However, proprietary systems are different. If you gain market share, you can then make money from your installed base (particularly by selling them lenses).
Although not many mounts have actually disappeared, In a shrinking or at best static market, the default reaction of manufacturers is to cut costs and R&D investment to ensure they remain profitable despite falling revenues. As consumers, we want Fuji to be successful not in milking a core market (us!) but in expanding or at least maintaining their position at the expense of their rivals. That means pricing and iterating technology aggressively, which we benefit from, while Fuji take the risk.

On the other hand, profit is a double-edged sword for photographers. We want Fuji to make a profit on cameras and lenses, so that it stays in the market. However, we really want it to be investing its income in R&D and tooling for new products, which suppresses profit, not to pay out big dividends to its shareholders.
Exactly! If they don't make enough profits, they will simply move to another market, abandoning the photographers.
 
Who cares? Wasting your time caring one way or the other about Fuji's financials will have NO bearing on Fuji's financials. Care about the important things in life that you can actually impact and get out there and shoot some photos!
Well, enough people apparently cared since the thread has been fairly active. What’s a waste of time to you might be useful data or fodder for interesting discussions to others. If you find the thread irrelevant or uninteresting, then just stay away. Posts like this not only don’t add value but tend to invite off topic and unpleasant reactions. That, IMHO, is the real waste of time here.
 

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