EOS RP specs not found in A7 iii

maadfw · Feb 26, 2019

Hi

Spec wise, A7 iii may be a better camera but there are features where RP provides that A7 iii lacks. Here are few that comes to my mind.

Again focusing only on specs/features, not the usability, better touchscreen, menu and colors.

Look, i am not saying RP is a better camera, it is not. The intent is address every camera brings its own unique features.

1). Rear screen resolution (1.04M vs 921k)

2) Intervalometer builtin

3) Focus stacking

4) Resolution (26.2 vs 24mp)

5) Flexible Value mode

6) Fully Articulating screen

7) Battery Charger!

8) Video Bit rate (120Mbps vs 100Mbps for 4K, 60Mbps vs 50Mbps for 1080p/60)

9) Low light sensitivity (-5 EV at f1.2 vs -3 EV at f2 works about -3.66 vs -3)

10) Support for 4:3 ratio

-maadfw

Miguel-C · Feb 26, 2019

wait, the sony a7III only has 50mb 1080p footage?

Lol

maadfw · Feb 26, 2019

Miguel-C said:
wait, the sony a7III only has 50mb 1080p footage?

Lol

Apparently!

-maadfw

gmcooper · Feb 26, 2019

Focus stacking is an excellent feature. As a point of information, I was a bit surprised to learn that it is limited in the RP to certain lenses.

From the manual:

The following lenses can be used (as of October 2018).

• RF35mm F1.8 MACRO IS STM

• RF50mm F1.2 L USM
• RF28-70mm F2 L USM
• RF24-105mm F4 L IS USM

• EF16-35mm f/4L IS USM
• EF24-70mm f/4L IS USM
• EF100mm f/2.8L MACRO IS USM

• EF180mm f/3.5L MACRO USM
• EF-S35mm f/2.8 MACRO IS STM

• EF-S60mm f/2.8 MACRO USM

borno · Feb 26, 2019

made in Japan

ProDude · Feb 26, 2019

With the exception of the stop and a half dynamic range and lightning fast eye focus and battery life the Sony doesn't have a lot more to talk about. It's amazing they slam the RP as bad as I see happening. It may not be the equivalent of a BMW but it ain't a Toyota either ;-)

Miguel-C · Feb 26, 2019

ProDude said:
With the exception of the stop and a half dynamic range and lightning fast eye focus and battery life the Sony doesn't have a lot more to talk about. It's amazing they slam the RP as bad as I see happening. It may not be the equivalent of a BMW but it ain't a Toyota either ;-)

I would take a toyota over a BM myself

ProDude · Feb 26, 2019

Miguel-C said:
ProDude said:

With the exception of the stop and a half dynamic range and lightning fast eye focus and battery life the Sony doesn't have a lot more to talk about. It's amazing they slam the RP as bad as I see happening. It may not be the equivalent of a BMW but it ain't a Toyota either ;-)

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I would take a toyota over a BM myself

not if you're getting paid to do what you do. ;-)

Battersea · Feb 26, 2019

Miguel-C said:
ProDude said:

With the exception of the stop and a half dynamic range and lightning fast eye focus and battery life the Sony doesn't have a lot more to talk about. It's amazing they slam the RP as bad as I see happening. It may not be the equivalent of a BMW but it ain't a Toyota either ;-)

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I would take a toyota over a BM myself

Ten million people choose Toyotas over BMW every year.

ProDude · Feb 26, 2019

Battersea said:
Miguel-C said:

ProDude said:

With the exception of the stop and a half dynamic range and lightning fast eye focus and battery life the Sony doesn't have a lot more to talk about. It's amazing they slam the RP as bad as I see happening. It may not be the equivalent of a BMW but it ain't a Toyota either ;-)

Click to expand...

I would take a toyota over a BM myself

Click to expand...

Ten million people choose Toyotas over BMW every year.

Yup they are called "consumers" NOT professionals

Sittatunga · Feb 26, 2019

ProDude said:
Battersea said:

Miguel-C said:

ProDude said:

With the exception of the stop and a half dynamic range and lightning fast eye focus and battery life the Sony doesn't have a lot more to talk about. It's amazing they slam the RP as bad as I see happening. It may not be the equivalent of a BMW but it ain't a Toyota either ;-)

Click to expand...

I would take a toyota over a BM myself

Click to expand...

Ten million people choose Toyotas over BMW every year.

Click to expand...

Yup they are called "consumers" NOT professionals

Another birder · Feb 26, 2019

maadfw said:
Hi

Spec wise, A7 iii may be a better camera but there are features where RP provides that A7 iii lacks. Here are few that comes to my mind.

Again focusing only on specs/features, not the usability, better touchscreen, menu and colors.

Look, i am not saying RP is a better camera, it is not. The intent is address every camera brings its own unique features.

1). Rear screen resolution (1.04M vs 921k)

2) Intervalometer builtin

3) Focus stacking

4) Resolution (26.2 vs 24mp)

5) Flexible Value mode

6) Fully Articulating screen

7) Battery Charger!

8) Video Bit rate (120Mbps vs 100Mbps for 4K, 60Mbps vs 50Mbps for 1080p/60)

9) Low light sensitivity (-5 EV at f1.2 vs -3 EV at f2 works about -3.66 vs -3)

10) Support for 4:3 ratio

-maadfw

All fair enough, except for number 2, which is set to arrive in April

(firmware update)

maadfw · Feb 26, 2019

Tim O'Connor said:
maadfw said:

Hi

Spec wise, A7 iii may be a better camera but there are features where RP provides that A7 iii lacks. Here are few that comes to my mind.

Again focusing only on specs/features, not the usability, better touchscreen, menu and colors.

Look, i am not saying RP is a better camera, it is not. The intent is address every camera brings its own unique features.

1). Rear screen resolution (1.04M vs 921k)

2) Intervalometer builtin

3) Focus stacking

4) Resolution (26.2 vs 24mp)

5) Flexible Value mode

6) Fully Articulating screen

7) Battery Charger!

8) Video Bit rate (120Mbps vs 100Mbps for 4K, 60Mbps vs 50Mbps for 1080p/60)

9) Low light sensitivity (-5 EV at f1.2 vs -3 EV at f2 works about -3.66 vs -3)

10) Support for 4:3 ratio

-maadfw

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All fair enough, except for number 2, which is set to arrive in April (firmware update)

Really? Page 176 of EOS RP manual already talks about it.

http://gdlp01.c-wss.com/gds/3/0300033693/01/eosrp-ug-en.pdf

-maadfw

RLight · Feb 26, 2019

The RP isn't going to win a spec war against the A7 III anyways.

A7 II though? The RP kills it. That would've been a more entertaining thread.

I think the big spec missing from the A7 III that the RP has is...

$1299, with an adapter thrown in (right now anyways).

David Hull · Feb 26, 2019

Sittatunga said:
ProDude said:

Battersea said:

Miguel-C said:

ProDude said:

With the exception of the stop and a half dynamic range and lightning fast eye focus and battery life the Sony doesn't have a lot more to talk about. It's amazing they slam the RP as bad as I see happening. It may not be the equivalent of a BMW but it ain't a Toyota either ;-)

Click to expand...

I would take a toyota over a BM myself

Click to expand...

Ten million people choose Toyotas over BMW every year.

Click to expand...

Yup they are called "consumers" NOT professionals

Click to expand...

Professionals drive Daf, Iveco, Mercedes, Scania lorries and TX4 taxis...

I thought "Professionals" drove Dallara with perhaps a Honda or Chevy engine.

Rawpaul · Feb 26, 2019

David Hull said:
Sittatunga said:

ProDude said:

Battersea said:

Miguel-C said:

ProDude said:

With the exception of the stop and a half dynamic range and lightning fast eye focus and battery life the Sony doesn't have a lot more to talk about. It's amazing they slam the RP as bad as I see happening. It may not be the equivalent of a BMW but it ain't a Toyota either ;-)

Click to expand...

I would take a toyota over a BM myself

Click to expand...

Ten million people choose Toyotas over BMW every year.

Click to expand...

Yup they are called "consumers" NOT professionals

Click to expand...

Professionals drive Daf, Iveco, Mercedes, Scania lorries and TX4 taxis...

Click to expand...

I thought "Professionals" drove Dallara with perhaps a Honda or Chevy engine.

Yes , and see if you got time to make images driving an oval LOL

Another birder · Feb 26, 2019

maadfw said:
Tim O'Connor said:

maadfw said:

Hi

Spec wise, A7 iii may be a better camera but there are features where RP provides that A7 iii lacks. Here are few that comes to my mind.

Again focusing only on specs/features, not the usability, better touchscreen, menu and colors.

Look, i am not saying RP is a better camera, it is not. The intent is address every camera brings its own unique features.

1). Rear screen resolution (1.04M vs 921k)

2) Intervalometer builtin

3) Focus stacking

4) Resolution (26.2 vs 24mp)

5) Flexible Value mode

6) Fully Articulating screen

7) Battery Charger!

8) Video Bit rate (120Mbps vs 100Mbps for 4K, 60Mbps vs 50Mbps for 1080p/60)

9) Low light sensitivity (-5 EV at f1.2 vs -3 EV at f2 works about -3.66 vs -3)

10) Support for 4:3 ratio

-maadfw

Click to expand...

All fair enough, except for number 2, which is set to arrive in April (firmware update)

Click to expand...

Really? Page 176 of EOS RP manual already talks about it.

http://gdlp01.c-wss.com/gds/3/0300033693/01/eosrp-ug-en.pdf

-maadfw

Sorry - I meant the A73 - firmware will give it an intervalometer.

lattesweden · Feb 27, 2019

Here some loose comments back that popped up when I read your list:

maadfw said:
2) Intervalometer builtin

Will come in the A7III (and other Sony bodys) in april in the v3.0 firmware that includes the animal-Eye-AF and other AF improvements.

maadfw said:
3) Focus stacking

Lacks in all Sony cameras and is a real bummer I think. I would like that on my Sonys so I can pension my 2013 year Olympus E-M1mkI that has it.

maadfw said:
5) Flexible Value mode

What is this?

maadfw said:
7) Battery Charger!

Not a real argument, there are several ones to buy. Just a matter of total cost if you need one or are happy with the built in USB charging. As long as you only have one battery the built in one is enough, why take the battery out to charge it when the slot in the camera will be empty and you can't use it anyway? And the battery time on the A7III is leading so most don't need more than one battery.

maadfw said:
10) Support for 4:3 ratio

I agree that it would be nice to have that framing on Sony cameras and I hope they implement it. 1:1 and 16:9 is coming in firmware updates this spring. It is not a large problem since it is easy to crop in post, but I like to do portrait mode in 4:3 so seeing it already in camera and also that it auto cropped to 4:3 when I turn the camera in portrait mode I would like.

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bullet1 · Feb 27, 2019

maadfw said:
Hi

Spec wise, A7 iii may be a better camera but there are features where RP provides that A7 iii lacks. Here are few that comes to my mind.

Again focusing only on specs/features, not the usability, better touchscreen, menu and colors.

Look, i am not saying RP is a better camera, it is not. The intent is address every camera brings its own unique features.

1). Rear screen resolution (1.04M vs 921k)

2) Intervalometer builtin

3) Focus stacking

4) Resolution (26.2 vs 24mp)

5) Flexible Value mode

I heard a lot of good things about this.

maadfw said:
6) Fully Articulating screen

I really like the flip out LCD screen.

maadfw said:
7) Battery Charger!

I have mixed feelings about this. As a long time Canon user, I prefer not to charge the battery in camera. Besides, it can only charge one battery at a time, no different than the standalone single battery changer. For my A7III, I was able to buy an aftermarket USB powered battery charger which can change two batteries at a time. That is what I would want for the RP.

maadfw said:
8) Video Bit rate (120Mbps vs 100Mbps for 4K, 60Mbps vs 50Mbps for 1080p/60)

9) Low light sensitivity (-5 EV at f1.2 vs -3 EV at f2 works about -3.66 vs -3)

10) Support for 4:3 ratio

11) Less weight

12) Better grip

13) Fully touchable menu system that is lacking on the A7III.

I have the A7III and am interested in the RP. Due to its light weight, it would be a great travel FF camera. I might even take both the RP and the A7III with me on trips.

--
Nelson

SwedishPhoto · Feb 27, 2019

ProDude said:
With the exception of the stop and a half dynamic range and lightning fast eye focus and battery life the Sony doesn't have a lot more to talk about. It's amazing they slam the RP as bad as I see happening. It may not be the equivalent of a BMW but it ain't a Toyota either ;-)

You're forgetting the 10 fps with full AF and metering, the faster AF, better video, and more. 3-4 times the battery life isn't to be scoffed at.

With that said. I'm actually about to sell my A7iii, and keep my Fuji X100F. I dunno what it is, but I don't like shooting with the Sony's (own the A7ii as well).

I'm for sure buying an EOS RP or R. Actually considering the RP for its low price and value (and I own a few Canon lenses). Can't really beat the Canon lens line up and prices (both new and used).

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