Lumix G9 , a Game changer?

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The Panasonic Lumix G9 was a game changer for me. It has tons of features that you can find in the stats and specs. In this review, I would like to go over the main features that made it a game changing camera for me. IBIS, AF, Low light.

IBIS or DUAL IS: One of the most important factors for me is shooting photo and 4k video hand held. And the G9's Dual IS2 (IBIS) was the best on the market with 6.5 stops (until the EM1X came out). This feature is not like FF IBIS or APSC IBIS. This IBIS or DUAL IS can hand hold 4K video with extreme stabilization for a variety of lenses. In a variety of conditions. It also assists in tracking Birds in Flight with super telephoto ranges for photo, and for video. For video there is a Video Lock feature that locks down the video for a rock solid shot. Below are some examples of hand held video with the Lumix G9 and 100-300 for the wildlife. All hand held using the high speed 4K (slow mo), and some with video lock. The sunset clips shot on tripod.



Auto Foucs with Lumix G9: You've all heard it, "It's a Contrast AF and not that good with tracking. OR it's not as good as the Phase Detect AF cameras". But what they fail to mention is AF Tracing is only one of several types of AF modes in your camera. And the Lumix G9 is one of the fastest and most accurate AF in camera land. They also fail to state that G9 can AF in low light faster and more accurate than most mirrlorless and those with Phase Detect AF. And it does this with single point AF using manual focus and back button AF/AE. And, the tracking is not all that bad. G9 also has custom AF features for more customization for specific conditions. When you add in focus peaking, focus assist, and the plethora of other features for AF, it's easy to get any shot you want. But, the down side is, it takes time to use these in various combinations to find the ideal settings that works best. Once you learn and know how the system works, it will perform great. I've never had a problem with nailing the focus using AF with the Lumix G9. If I missed a shot it was always my own fault, for not keeping the subject in the focus area, or a unexpected jerk on my part. And the low light AF ability allows me to shoot in conditions, I can't with my DSLRs. And I do a lot of low light photo/video.

Below is the first test video I did after a few weeks with the G9. I tested various AF modes, and low light ability, and dynamic range for photo and video, in a variety of conditions. And the G9 all exceeded all my expectations. Some of these locations were very dark using ISO 4000 and 6400 for the video.



The G9 is not a small m43 camera. But it does feel good in the hands. Below are some pics with the telephotos. Another benefit of the m43 system is the plethora of high end lenses that can be used from Olympus and Panasonic, as well as adapted lenses from just about any camera. I had the opportunity to use the Oly Pro lens below for a week, and It was a enlightening experience. The AF was fast and accurate, though the shallow depth at 300mm equivalent was just a tiny bit slower at f/2.8 vs the Panasonic 100-300 at f/5.6. But at f/5.6 the Oly was about the same. And the IBIS was very stable hand held at a 300mm equivalent for video. You can check out my channel for the BIF video of pelecans diving for food. The stabilization was amazing. Again, the G9 allowed me to shoot in conditions I would not be able to with other cameras. And that's because of the IBIS.

Lumix G9 and Olympus 50-150 f/2.8 Pro. More weight and size than I prefer.
Lumix G9 and Olympus 50-150 f/2.8 Pro. More weight and size than I prefer.

Another huge factor for me was the size cost ratio. With Lumix G9 and the Panasonic 12-35 f/2.8 Power OIS II and it's companion the 35-100 f/2.8 II, this makes for a very reasonably priced kit for the hybird shooter who seeks high quality video with their high quality photos. And the corp factor is 2x thus the equivalent of 24-70 and 70-200 f/2.8. Below is the G9 with the Panasonic 35-100.

Lumix G9 with Panasonic 35-100 f/2.8 Power OIS II. Internal zoom lens
Lumix G9 with Panasonic 35-100 f/2.8 Power OIS II. Internal zoom lens

As for low light. It will do what most people need for low light. The only limitation is shooting at ISO above 6400. If your low light needs use ISO 6400 or higher this is not going to give you the best results. For all my low light (and I do a lot of low light), the G9 works great. Rarely do I need to go 6400 ISO. 4000 ISO works for the 4K video, and 3200 gets me good clean results. I've shot the Milky Way at ISO 6400 and 3200, and it performs like my crop Nikon DSLRs. With F/1.7 lenses, It will shoot in the city at night at ISO 800 to 1600 for video with great results. If you see my night videos, you'll see the GX85 and G9 shooting low light video at ISO 800 to 4000. They are great up to 1600 ISO from there its usable to 4000 for video.

Thus, I'm very happy with what the Lumix G9 can do. I like to push cameras to the limits, and get the most out of them. The G9's stabilization, Speedy AF, massive amounts of customization, high quality 4K video ability, and low light performance allows me to shoot in any condition, at any time anywhere, with speed and precision for photo and video. It's a camera that doesn't have many down sides. It takes a long time to understand all of the features, and apply them correctly for optimal results. It's not a beginner camera by any stretch. And seasoned photographers will need to spend time learning what this camera can do. For me, it's one of those cameras that makes me want to go out and shoot. It's also a camera that challenges me, to see how much more I can push it to do things in photo and video, that I never could do before.

Anyway, I hope you found this review helpful. Thanks for taking the time to read through this long review.
 
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A very positive review, but you could be more critical. Indeed, the dual IS is excellent. Handheld 2s shots at 200mm equivalent are quite easy to pull off.

Pity you didn't try the lumix tether software, which is the G9's weak spot. It is shambolic.
 
A very positive review, but you could be more critical. Indeed, the dual IS is excellent. Handheld 2s shots at 200mm equivalent are quite easy to pull off.

Pity you didn't try the lumix tether software, which is the G9's weak spot. It is shambolic.
Thanks for checking out the review. I never did use the tether software, just the image app. But, If it is a weak spot thanks for making it known.
 
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I also enjoyed the review a lot. Personally it's a very impressive camera for video and time lapse work. Also shadow recovery is impressive. Some of the footage have set new bars for me to pursue in terms of color and image quality.

However low light photography, esp. the aircraft shots show some visible noise on the plane, or on dark & flat surfaces in general. That's my only negative thing about the camera, after watching the review.

Honestly, it's a very capable gem. Good review.

Keep up the good shots! :)

Regards
 
Great review, which made my decission between the G9 and GH5 even more difficult.

What is your opinion of the VFR mode on G9? Since it's full auto and low bitrate, does it fall apart?
 
IBIS or DUAL IS: One of the most important factors for me is shooting photo and 4k video hand held. And the G9's Dual IS2 (IBIS) was the best on the market with 6.5 stops (until the EM1X came out). This feature is not like FF IBIS or APSC IBIS. This IBIS or DUAL IS can hand hold 4K video with extreme stabilization for a variety of lenses. In a variety of conditions. It also assists in tracking Birds in Flight with super telephoto ranges for photo, and for video. For video there is a Video Lock feature that locks down the video for a rock solid shot. Below are some examples of hand held video with the Lumix G9 and 100-300 for the wildlife. All hand held using the high speed 4K (slow mo), and some with video lock. The sunset clips shot on tripod.
Can you tell us more about the "video lock" feature? I'm not familiar with it.
 
A very positive review, but you could be more critical. Indeed, the dual IS is excellent. Handheld 2s shots at 200mm equivalent are quite easy to pull off.

Pity you didn't try the lumix tether software, which is the G9's weak spot. It is shambolic.
Just about everything that is special in the camera has appeared in other cameras. So, the best we can say it that it refines those features. It's an excellent camera, but it's no game changer. In fact, I don't think there has been any game changer for the last 10 years. The E-M5 may be one, and before that the Minolta Maxxum that brought us AF could be another.
 
I also enjoyed the review a lot. Personally it's a very impressive camera for video and time lapse work. Also shadow recovery is impressive. Some of the footage have set new bars for me to pursue in terms of color and image quality.

However low light photography, esp. the aircraft shots show some visible noise on the plane, or on dark & flat surfaces in general. That's my only negative thing about the camera, after watching the review.

Honestly, it's a very capable gem. Good review.

Keep up the good shots! :)

Regards
Thanks bayindirh for taking the time to view and give feedback. I agree, the low light on aircraft shots were not that great, one was out of focus on my part (too slow shutter speed). The camera does struggle after sunset with fast moving subjects and a crop of over 100% really shows the struggle.

Much appreciated.
 
A very positive review, but you could be more critical. Indeed, the dual IS is excellent. Handheld 2s shots at 200mm equivalent are quite easy to pull off.

Pity you didn't try the lumix tether software, which is the G9's weak spot. It is shambolic.
Just about everything that is special in the camera has appeared in other cameras. So, the best we can say it that it refines those features. It's an excellent camera, but it's no game changer. In fact, I don't think there has been any game changer for the last 10 years. The E-M5 may be one, and before that the Minolta Maxxum that brought us AF could be another.
Thanks for your input. For me it was a game changer. I've never seen a camera that can shoot 200mm equavalent for 2 seconds. I can do 24mm equivalent hand held for 2 seconds standing on a good day, but 200mm equivalent is impossible for me even sitting down with arms rested on a table.

Shooting stable hand held video at 200mm to 600mm equivalent is something the G9 and EM1 II can do in 4K which to me was a game changer. And doing that in 60p 4K video and High Speed 4K slow motions video is another reason the G9 changed the way I shoot video.
 
Great review, which made my decission between the G9 and GH5 even more difficult.

What is your opinion of the VFR mode on G9? Since it's full auto and low bitrate, does it fall apart?
Thank you Settepotet and thank you for your inquiry. With the G9 video there is no option for the Variable Frame Rates like the GH5. At 4K 30p or 24p It's defalut to 420/8bit/LongGOP, at 100mbps. For 60p its the same with 150mbps. And for FHD they have set bitrates for 30p and 60p.

For most of my slow motion I use the High Speed video feature which is 60p for 4K and 180p for FHD. They're processed in the camera with the output in slow motion in either 24p or 30p. The down side is, it's full auto exposure.

As for the low bit rate. They hold up well enough for what I do, and the YouTube compression. My goal is to get straight out the camera quality and minimize editing. If you're familiar with Lumix cameras, they have dynamic range adjustments and resolution adjustments that are processed in the camera. Thus, straight out the camera video quality has enough data for minor editing and rendering. But like all 420/8bit MOV or AVCHD files, they can't tolerate a lot of heavy editing and color grading. Kind of like JPG files, but in video. And, that's how I set the camera up for it, and edit it. With a light touch.

Below is a 4K video shot in 30P did with my own take on color grading. By no means a cinematic video, but a experiment to see just how the 4K 30p holds up in editing. I used a crazy WB, and did some minor WB an hue edits in post. There is one clip in the video that fell apart. I lowered exposure about 18% and it didn't hold up with the extreme color adjustments.



Anyway, If full control over video editing is your plan the GH5 or GH5s would be the better MFT camera. What I like about the G9 video is, the features like no crop, little rolling shutter, and straight out the camera quality. If I was a cinematic style shooter, would go with the camera more designed for the cinematic features and full video features. Hope this helps.

Thanks for your input. Best wishes on your venture.
 
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IBIS or DUAL IS: One of the most important factors for me is shooting photo and 4k video hand held. And the G9's Dual IS2 (IBIS) was the best on the market with 6.5 stops (until the EM1X came out). This feature is not like FF IBIS or APSC IBIS. This IBIS or DUAL IS can hand hold 4K video with extreme stabilization for a variety of lenses. In a variety of conditions. It also assists in tracking Birds in Flight with super telephoto ranges for photo, and for video. For video there is a Video Lock feature that locks down the video for a rock solid shot. Below are some examples of hand held video with the Lumix G9 and 100-300 for the wildlife. All hand held using the high speed 4K (slow mo), and some with video lock. The sunset clips shot on tripod.
Can you tell us more about the "video lock" feature? I'm not familiar with it.
Thank you for your inquiry larsbc.

The IS Video Lock helps lock down the movement when hand held. It was released with the first firmware update V1.1 for the G9, I have it set to one of the front buttons for quick and easy on and off. This video will show what it does and how to set it up.



Hope this helps.
 
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Auto Foucs with Lumix G9: ..
".. And it does this with single point AF using manual focus and back button AF/AE. And, the tracking is not all that bad. G9 also has custom AF features for more customization for specific conditions. .. But, the down side is, it takes time to use these in various combinations to find the ideal settings that works best. Once you learn and know how the system works, it will perform great. I've never had a problem with nailing the focus using AF with the Lumix G9. .."
Thank you for review.. G9 is no doubt one of the best camera out there..

I am still struggle with Panasonic AUTO AF, especially VDO.. Now I am trying to work around, like half-press Auto AF, then use AF lock, then change to MF, but the process is quite painful.. It seems you find a secret sauce of AF for Panasonic, it would be greatly helpful if you can share some tricks and tips here, particularly on VDO AF.. Thank you very much..
 
The IS Video Lock helps lock down the movement when hand held. It was released with the first firmware update V1.1 for the G9, I have it set to one of the front buttons for quick and easy on and off. This video will show what it does and how to set it up.
Hope this helps.
OMG that's amazing. If that's not on the G85 successor then I guess I'll be looking for a used G9. Thanks for the video!

Damn, I wish I had it right now because it would come in handy on next month's trip!
 
Auto Foucs with Lumix G9: ..

".. And it does this with single point AF using manual focus and back button AF/AE. And, the tracking is not all that bad. G9 also has custom AF features for more customization for specific conditions. .. But, the down side is, it takes time to use these in various combinations to find the ideal settings that works best. Once you learn and know how the system works, it will perform great. I've never had a problem with nailing the focus using AF with the Lumix G9. .."
Thank you for review.. G9 is no doubt one of the best camera out there..

I am still struggle with Panasonic AUTO AF, especially VDO.. Now I am trying to work around, like half-press Auto AF, then use AF lock, then change to MF, but the process is quite painful.. It seems you find a secret sauce of AF for Panasonic, it would be greatly helpful if you can share some tricks and tips here, particularly on VDO AF.. Thank you very much..
I fell your pain. I spent a long time with the G9 AF in various situations, and conditions. And, I still find something new and different with the AF all the time. Recently, I saw a link here on the DPR to the Panasonic website with a PDF manual on the AF for G9/GH5. Again, new info, and more stuff to play around with with AF. It may be something you can look into to get a understanding of all the AF features.

Anyway, early today I went to the Racetrack and shot some video/photo, and later got some Jet fighters in flight. Thus, testing once again the AF tracking, and AFC, and AFF with some of the insight from the recent info I seen on the AF system.

What worked for me today was, using AFC and my trusty Manual with Back Button Focus. Also, I custom set it to constant moving subjects (SET 2) in the custom menu in photo. I had about 80% keeper with burst set to H, and JPG. Shutter at 1/2000. The tricky part was keeping the subject within the group of AF points. It was easier with aircraft vs the race cars. The following are the settings I used.

First, the AFC Custom Multi setting with 37 AF points. Grouped in the center. This can be changed using the touch screen.

Next: Photo menu page 1/5, AF Custon Settings (photo) + SET 2

Next "C wrench menu" = Focus/Release Shutter menu (Starting on page 1/7)

AF/AE Lock = AF-ON

Shutter AF = OFF

Half Press Release = OFF

Quick AF = ON

Eye Sensor AF = OFF

Pinpoint AF Setting = (Pinpoint AF Time = SHORT) (Pinpoint AF Display = PIP)

AF-Point Scope Setting = (Keep Enlarged = OFF) (PIP Dispaly = PIP)

AF Assist Lamp = OFF

Focus /Release Priority = (AFS/AFF and AFC set to RELEASE)

Focus Switching for Vert/Hor = ON

Loop Movement Focus Frame = OFF

AF Area Display = ON

AF + MF = ON

AF Assist + ( the top option with lens and direction pad)

MF Assist Display = PIP

Dam, with all that, no wonder it takes so long to find settings that works. Anyway, you can change the "SET" for the Custom AF depending on what kind of action you shoot.

For static or very slow moving stuff I use the manual focus with AF which is "One Area" AF. When I need tracking I flip the switch to AFC with 37 group AF points. I found this to work well for cars and jets.

My errors today came from using a too long lens. When the action gets near it gets big, and if not zoomed out, it's difficult to keep the subject in the 37 AF points. For aircraft on a clear sky a larger group of AF points may have been better.

I also used the AF tracking feature for cars and jets, it was pretty good from a distance, but when the subjects got closer and faster that's when the tracking lock failed. Perhaps a stronger lock adjustment in SET 2 or SET 4 would have been better.

I also attempted the AFF mode, and I got the initial one or two shots, and the rest of the burst was a fail.

Nevertheless, for those fast moving cars up close, I used the old school zone focus technique to get the burst panning shots. Much more reliable, and with slower shutters at 1/125 or 1/250 the background blur looks a lot better than freeze frame IMO. This is my go to technique for predictable moving subjects.

Anyway, the G9 does take some time and effort to learn and use. And because of the massive amount of customization, it takes time to set up. The above settings I found work for me and my style of shooting. It may or may not work for everyone. I also use Zone Focusing to replace the advanced technology of AF tracking when the movement is too fast for the G9. For me, using both zone focus and the AFC works well and allows me to cover all angles and distances.

My next challenge is to use the eye detect and human learning AF ability of the G9. It's more tech to learn and play with. But in the end, I'll likely end up using simple techniques that I find reliable.

I guess in some way, we expect the technology to do everything perfect. When in some cases, it's not. For many decades shooters have been using simple techniques to do what technology is trying to do. At the end of the day, the only thing that matters is getting the shot. And learning from the errors. And getting success with something new.

Thus, I hope this answers your questions about the settings. And, I hope you find the settings that works best for your style of photography.

Here are 3 straight out the camera JPGs that I shot using the above settings for AF. All 3 are in FHD size. The last pic is the cropped version of the second pic.



T-Birds
T-Birds



T-Bird
T-Bird



Cropped version of the T-Bird
Cropped version of the T-Bird



Anyway, hope this helps.
 
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