Drones chaos closes UK International Airport

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Gatwick International Airport ( south of London) - It was bound to happen one day. Unsurprisingly the authorities seem to have been caught completely with their pants down. No Jamming system in place, no-one willing to shoot them down for fear of stray bullet damage (ever heard of shotguns???). Chaos for thousands at the start of the holidays, see,

 
Gatwick International Airport ( south of London) - It was bound to happen one day. Unsurprisingly the authorities seem to have been caught completely with their pants down. No Jamming system in place, no-one willing to shoot them down for fear of stray bullet damage (ever heard of shotguns???). Chaos for thousands at the start of the holidays, see,

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-46623754
obviously your point of view is very limited and you are not very well informed but still making judgment. Anyway, to answer some of your issues:

1) They afraid of shooting drones down for fear of stray bullets - reason for that is they are not standing directly under the drone and cannot shoot to the sky, the drone is always flying away from them and also is flying relatively low so in theory shooting at it would mean shooting in straight line, which brings the risk, if they miss, bullet might hit someone/something straight behind it.

2) No Jamming system in place - it turns out it is not electronic drone but fuel-powered (like old school RC planes ) hence whoever is flying it - he can flight it for longer than 15 minutes. Jamming radio signals would probably jammed planes radios and Control Tower radios etc.

Good solution, in my opinion would be to involve 1 helicopter, and fly it relatively close to the drone. Strong push of air generated from helicopter would most likely pushed drone down the ground. This method has been used before around the world.

Other, slightly more risky method could be to hire drone pilot and crash-fly another drone to stop this chaos.
 
Well I wish I'd had a shotgun the time one clown ruined a day out in a secluded area of Scotland, constantly buzzing us and an ancient monument on National Trust property. We'd soon see how long his drone would have lasted after a good dose of number 10 shot.

Despite my obvious ignorance and limited view I happen to know that frequency specific domestic drone jamming IS available around military sites in the UK which doesn't affect other frequency controlled equipment. I imagine the odds of idiots NOT using an off the shelf drone are remote. Bet it's cheaper than keeping a helicopter and crew on standby.
 
Well I wish I'd had a shotgun the time one clown ruined a day out in a secluded area of Scotland, constantly buzzing us and an ancient monument on National Trust property. We'd soon see how long his drone would have lasted after a good dose of number 10 shot.

Despite my obvious ignorance and limited view I happen to know that frequency specific domestic drone jamming IS available around military sites in the UK which doesn't affect other frequency controlled equipment. I imagine the odds of idiots NOT using an off the shelf drone are remote. Bet it's cheaper than keeping a helicopter and crew on standby.
It has already been stated that the drone is not one of the mass produced off the shelf items and that it appears to be on a pre programmed , self contained, flight pattern and that there is no detectable radio link with an operator. which would suggest that the operator

a) knows what he/she is doing

b) this a deliberate attempt at disruption

c) that the operator is quite happy to write off the drone, there have been recent reports of more than one drone.
 
Why a certain malicious foreign power flexing their mischievous muscle with a superficial element of plausible deniability to it. We all know who that would be. An autocratic kind of country that would jeer at the pusillanimous safety-conscious approach towards the drones.

Although the UK is the most surveillance camera heavy land in the world, they won't have cameras over those remote fields the drones were launched from. And even if the drones were purchased locally with identification, a foreign power has the means to give fake identification.

Shooting the drones with conventional bullets is not without risk. When Kuwaitis fired their guns in the air to celebrate the liberation in 1990, I think around 80 people were injured by bullets on their way back down. They may only reach maybe 30% of their muzzle velocity on the way back down, but that could be enough to kill you.
 
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We'll see more of this... its just the beginning.
 
This is a form of terrorism designed to disrupt the normal flow of every day life. Shootings at nightclubs are tragic but process-impeding terrorism will impact more people personally. Just imagine what is possible with little effort that could bring the daily lives of millions of people to a grinding halt and cost millions of dollars in the process. 9/11 showed that terrorism was more than just about killing people, it shut down the entire U.S. (and elsewhere) for over a day.
 
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Gatwick International Airport ( south of London) - It was bound to happen one day. Unsurprisingly the authorities seem to have been caught completely with their pants down. No Jamming system in place, no-one willing to shoot them down for fear of stray bullet damage (ever heard of shotguns???). Chaos for thousands at the start of the holidays, see,

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-46623754
Yea, I saw that on the news in the US. Seems people will go out of their way to screw up everything for others. Karma is a MF.

That's the reason I refuse to get a drone. Too many limitations due to idiots screwing it up for everyone.
 
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Gatwick International Airport ( south of London) - It was bound to happen one day. Unsurprisingly the authorities seem to have been caught completely with their pants down. No Jamming system in place, no-one willing to shoot them down for fear of stray bullet damage (ever heard of shotguns???). Chaos for thousands at the start of the holidays, see,

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-46623754
Yea, I saw that on the news in the US. Seems people will go out of their way to screw up everything for others. Karma is a MF.

That's the reason I refuse to get a drone. Too many limitations due to idiots screwing it up for everyone.
There are parallels , small groups of moronic scumbags ruin everything for others. The entire legal system is to deal with a minority of trash that make freedom for the rest of us impossible. But at the same time, the legal systems and politicians often go overboard with rules, creating a kind of buffer zone of rules that infringe on what could be perfectly reasonable uses of drones for example in order to contain the actions of imbeciles.
 
I thougt its not allowed around the world to operate in certain distance, does anyone the freq..they operate in ?
 
See Airmap for Drones from Airmap, Inc. I'm not sure that it's exhaustive, but it's pretty good, especially for Gatwick and its environs. For Android and iPhone.
 
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A random selection of comments on this "story" made by what one might label as "independent thinkers" (those who use their own mind to think for themselves, aka question the "official narrative"):

- So was this an invisible stealth drone or something? How come nobody in the general public seems to have spotted it? None of the plane spotters at the airport filmed a drone that day? How odd!

- I'm not normally in line with conspiracy theories, etc., but yeah, I agree. This keeps happening yet we keep not having any proof of actual drones.

- Reads like false flag operation to restrict usage of the first 150m of the airspace for commercial drones... ...Every time I fly even if people see me reaction is negative as if I'm spying. Regarding false flag - not sarcasm - that's how you convince public that certain laws need to be passed.

- So why was it flying at 3 AM? Why does it have a great big light on it?

- Since no one has released any reliable evidence, I dunno if we're talking about bags, balloons, aliens, drones, or bigfoot. As for people's motives, I couldn't say except that here in the US, the FAA has been chomping at the bits to micromanage (and tax) the very lucrative drone biz while its still in its infancy. I also know that people are excitable and will almost always jump to conclusion before they have any information. All one needs to do is help them throw stones and people are ready to accept nearly anything.
So...where's the proof that it was a drone?

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Gatwick International Airport ( south of London) - It was bound to happen one day. Unsurprisingly the authorities seem to have been caught completely with their pants down. No Jamming system in place, no-one willing to shoot them down for fear of stray bullet damage (ever heard of shotguns???). Chaos for thousands at the start of the holidays, see,

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-46623754
It does no good to make rules for drones --- if you can't enforce the rules.

We'd better hope the authorities around the world are developing counter measures - which they apparently are to some degree - more effort obviously needed.
 
Police has arrested two men for the disruptions...

Wonder how big the fine will be? 120.000 passengers delayed for days, hundreds of flights cancelled...
 
Police has arrested two men for the disruptions...

Wonder how big the fine will be? 120.000 passengers delayed for days, hundreds of flights cancelled...
It will be a matter of how long the jail sentance is IF they did it...

I read up on the arrest it's all very wierd. The guy was simply walking around with his drone under his arm in a HI-VIS jacket ?!?!?!

Either they've got the wrong guy or some complete muppet has evaded the British police for 3 days.
 
Gatwick International Airport ( south of London) - It was bound to happen one day. Unsurprisingly the authorities seem to have been caught completely with their pants down. No Jamming system in place, no-one willing to shoot them down for fear of stray bullet damage (ever heard of shotguns???). Chaos for thousands at the start of the holidays, see,

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-46623754
It does no good to make rules for drones --- if you can't enforce the rules.

We'd better hope the authorities around the world are developing counter measures - which they apparently are to some degree - more effort obviously needed.
Plus, shotguns aren't good for very long range. Hence, rifles.
 
Police has arrested two men for the disruptions...

Wonder how big the fine will be? 120.000 passengers delayed for days, hundreds of flights cancelled...
The article I saw about the arrest today seemed to indicate a man and his wife as current suspects:

 
There was talk of UK military installing some of the Israeli developed anti drone systems at airports (they might even be using a portable one at Gatwick now). Which is really the only way you are going to stop these going forward.

The hardest part is actually working out who is using them. Registration won't do a thing as people doing this to cause disruption will just clone someone else's ID or not have one.
 

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