Balls Cut Off - EF 85mm f/1.4L

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Any EF 85mm f/1.4L owners here, who shoots with it wide open and have some bokeh balls cut off? Just wondering if I have a defective lens. I just bought it brand new directly from Amazon. Thanks!

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world is finished.
 
Hahaha, I for sure thought this title was about something else. Even when I saw the dog lol.

Judging from other pics I've seen taken with the lens I don't think its defective.
 
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Google for "bokeh mirror clipping" - it's a known phenomenon with faster lenses in certain conditions.

And next time don't carry your spare lenses in your underpants - that EF lens mount can be sharp.
 
Poor dog... oh wait you meant other balls.
 

The 85mm f/1.2L II USM cut off some balls this week for me as well. The stars in the sky ended up getting cat-eyed and clipped. Not sure what anyone can do to reduce this since this is a physics issue. Stopping down the lens eliminated the effect.






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Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr.............
 
Hi, everyone! Thanks for all the informative and humorous replies! Glad to know it's not a defect on my lens. Also, my dog is neutered... but he still humps sometimes. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

The 85mm f/1.2L II USM cut off some balls this week for me as well. The stars in the sky ended up getting cat-eyed and clipped. Not sure what anyone can do to reduce this since this is a physics issue. Stopping down the lens eliminated the effect.

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Mechanical Vignetting...
The cause is actually surprisingly simple: As you know, the shape of bokeh balls is produced by the shape of the aperture. A round aperture produces round bokeh balls if there's enough aperture blades and a smaller aperture produces smaller balls because the aperture is much smaller. If you want heart-shaped bokeh balls you cut out a heart shape from a piece of paper and then stick the sheet with the heart-shaped hole in front of your lens.
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In the photograph above I've captured some clipped balls (stars in the night sky) but see how the camera shown in the image above is tilted away from this lens? Its visible optics are now forming an ellipse from this angle... just like a cat's eye. So light entering that lens from this angle or similar is just going to produce a cat-eye shaped bokeh ball. The additional "clipping" is caused by a secondary crop which is caused by the shape of the rectangular inner area of the lens towards the sensor.
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This is more likely to happen with "wider" medium-length lenses than "longer lenses" since it's the light entering from an oblique angle that causes the cat-eye effect and the "clipping" of these elipses will be the result of internal clipping. But it's unavoidable and I whilst round bokeh balls are desirable to some, it doesn't mean there's a problem with the lens. It just means that the light isn't "on axis" as it passes through the lens to reach the sensor. The effect can be reduced by stopping down the lens. It is most prominent with wide apertures and mid-range bright (fast) apertures.
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Actually, a partial solution to the problem is going with an RF camera without mirror box. That will eliminate the horizontal cuts from the mirror box. The cat's eyes at the edge will still be there of course, only stopping down helps. Optical limits just tested the RF 50mm f1.2 lens, and has a new cat's eye test - interesting to see. They ran into another issue with horizontal effects with fast shutter speeds due to flicker of the light source.

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