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EOS R horizon level
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Ed Rizk
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I remember from the manual that it goes off in some shooting modes, I believe face detect.
I set it to off all the time, and have it on the right button of the touch bar.
I set it to off all the time, and have it on the right button of the touch bar.
Thanks for your reply. By assigning the level to the touch bar, can you have the camera display the electronic level when face-detect auto-focus is enabled? Or is that not possible?
Can you get the camera to display the electronic level when recording a video?
Ed Rizk
Senior Member
No.
No.
Sorry. I just tried it. When I hit the button, it says, "not available".
Thanks very much for checking.
I’m surprised that the electronic level is disabled under these circumstances. Can’t be a feature...
Ed Rizk
Senior Member
There are a lot of things the R doesn't do at the same time it does other things. Dual pixel RAW doesn't work with Eye focus or a number of other features. That was more disappointing to me than the level.
The problem is throughput. The sensor read out speed and/or the processing speed is too slow for a lot of advanced features to work at the same time.
Nothing's perfect.
Yes, it’s a real shame about these seemingly arbitrary restrictions/limitations.
It seems that with EOS M cameras you can keep the electronic level if face-detect AF is enabled. Not sure why this is not allowed with the EOS R. A very strange limitation, IMO.
Ed Rizk
Senior Member
Full disclosure, I don't have the M, but I'm always one to speculate.
With fewer MP, lower MP VF and LCD, and less capable focus, etc, the M has less processing to do, therefore can use more features simultaneously.
Being ultra conservative, when it comes to reliability, Canon will not permit two things to work at once if they might crash the system one in a thousand times. Or certain combinations could crash the system in extreme conditions, like low light or slower lenses that make the AF and therefore make the sensor/processor work harder, could crash the system.
They have announced an upcoming firmware fix for some of these issues, so better software might be able to solve more issues over time.
Good speculation. I believe that data processing limitations has a major impact on the R. From FPS, to live view update (lack of it) during bursts, no tracking at 120 fps in 720 mode. The level not always being available (not a big deal for most), no histogram during video capture (I think this has a bigger impact on video shooters), etc etc.
I feel they released the R with the timing to have it there before December, while the software wasn't yet fully optimized or completed. So continuous silent shooting, continuous eye AF in servo mode etc etc all were intended but didn't make it upon release.
A FW update should not only bring these features, but may improve efficiency with regards to various things. Hopefully this histogram and level thing can be added.
My totally speculative opinion as a software engineer would agree with the slightly rushed release. Hopefully this will mark a change with Canon policy about firmware updates, releasing more features with them.
Certianly I hope they made the horizon level smaller and decentered, like in the M series cameras.
Certianly I hope they made the horizon level smaller and decentered, like in the M series cameras.
RHWeber
Leading Member
I do not use the horizontal level in the view finder because I find it intrusive, it is to big. That is why I always keep the grid lines on. They can be a very helpful aid in keeping horizon lines level, etc. The grid lines remain on regardless of the focus type you select and may help with the face detection issue.
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rrccad
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it's 1.0 of the EOS R code base firmware. it's not really built on top of EOS EF firmware, and not really built on top of EOS M firmware, but a new animal alltogether.
it's bound to have some feature limitations, that get smoothed out over time.
As an example the EOS-M3 which was the first powershot based EOS-M firmware had equally puzzling limitations and bugs.
I like the M5, and it is not the first, or the last, of their M family. But it has some bugs and kinks that I wouldn't mind if were ironed out, while they only fixed them in the M50.
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rrccad
Guest
M5 was second generation firmware. Much better than the M3 but yes, still clunky in some areas.
Seems like it takes Canon three times to get it right
Ed Rizk
Senior Member
The histogram has multiple sizes. I don't see why it would be any harder to do that with the level.
I have the level on a touch bar button, so I'm fine with it. I just bring it up to check the level when I need it rather than leaving it on all the time.
RHWeber
Leading Member
Thank you Ed. It took a while, and I had to look in the manual to figure out that you could only set the histogram from the touch bar, not any of the buttons. The camera is very programable. as you know.
All these seemingly arbitrary restrictions/limitations are such a turn-off for me. I can’t reward this effort with my hard-earned cash, honestly. When and if they are remedied, I may reconsider.
Ed Rizk
Senior Member
Agreed. One should only ever buy products with absolutely no limitations.
“Absolutely no limitations?” Did I say anything like that? I’m afraid you are erecting a strawman, and your sarcasm is unwarranted. My issue is with the seeming arbitrariness of some of these restrictions, which smack of sloppiness to me. For example, having the electronic level disappear when face-detect auto-focus is enabled is an arbitrary limitation that dings ergonomics and shouldn’t be there on a $2300 body. Canon’s own lowly G7X, which I own, does not have that issue with the electronic level.
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