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I want to try flash photography and just received a HVL-F45RM. Started reading some threads that said maybe that was not the best solution for the money. Anyway I can exchange it and was looking at this (see link.) Thoughts? I would be using it with the A7RIII and A6500. Thanks. Oh and anything else I might need such as umbrella, etc...

https://www.amazon.com/Godox-V860II...40072679&sr=8-14&keywords=godox+ving+v860ii-s
 
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I put together an article with a basic roadmap of how to get into lighting the best way.


In essence, the Godox way is probably the cheapest and easiest way to do it. The V860 is good, I can highly recommend it.
 
My advice is: get two cheap allmanual yongnuo with wireless built in. So you can use one of these as a master/controller. If you want to get in flashfotography you will get a feeling for it doing it manual. I have four of these and still use rhem often as ambient- or backlights. With color gels etc. They are quite powerfull.

If you want ttl hss etc the godox is nice. The lithium version is much faster at recycle time.
 
Godox 860
 
Check out

The Strobist.com web site

in short you want the most powerful flash you can buy if flash photography will be something you want to do.

Mostly because on any flash or camera gear re sale is not great

if you don’t need many bells and whistles I know the Nissin i60 or Di700a are both good

Metz is a long standing company distributed by manfrotto / bogen great flashes

i do use a top end Sony flash but that is for a specific need I have

Godox is another brand but there is no advantage me switching from Nissin to godox
 
Check out

The Strobist.com web site

in short you want the most powerful flash you can buy if flash photography will be something you want to do.

Mostly because on any flash or camera gear re sale is not great

if you don’t need many bells and whistles I know the Nissin i60 or Di700a are both good

Metz is a long standing company distributed by manfrotto / bogen great flashes

i do use a top end Sony flash but that is for a specific need I have

Godox is another brand but there is no advantage me switching from Nissin to godox
The advantage of godox comes from switching to strobes
 
Check out

The Strobist.com web site

in short you want the most powerful flash you can buy if flash photography will be something you want to do.

Mostly because on any flash or camera gear re sale is not great

if you don’t need many bells and whistles I know the Nissin i60 or Di700a are both good

Metz is a long standing company distributed by manfrotto / bogen great flashes

i do use a top end Sony flash but that is for a specific need I have

Godox is another brand but there is no advantage me switching from Nissin to godox
The advantage of godox comes from switching to strobes
I don't understand your meaning.
 
Check out

The Strobist.com web site

in short you want the most powerful flash you can buy if flash photography will be something you want to do.

Mostly because on any flash or camera gear re sale is not great

if you don’t need many bells and whistles I know the Nissin i60 or Di700a are both good

Metz is a long standing company distributed by manfrotto / bogen great flashes

i do use a top end Sony flash but that is for a specific need I have

Godox is another brand but there is no advantage me switching from Nissin to godox
The advantage of godox comes from switching to strobes
I don't understand your meaning.
Godox offer Strobes like the AD600 Pro, AD400 Pro and AD200, so you can start with speedlights, move to off camera flash, and start to complement your speedlights by introduce strobes and use them in combination, whilst maintain TTL/HSS I.e. buy a speedlight, add a 200WS strobe, then a 600WS strobe and use them as a 3 light set. It allows you to get into lighting cheaply.
 
I put together an article with a basic roadmap of how to get into lighting the best way.

https://theoverratedphotographer.com/2017/12/14/godox-an-easy-way-into-lighting-for-fujifilm/

In essence, the Godox way is probably the cheapest and easiest way to do it. The V860 is good, I can highly recommend it.
I would highly recommend Godox as well or buy the rebranded Flashpoint versions at Adorama since Adorama offers a one year warranty. Regardless of which one, they are excellent flashes and like myfujilife mentioned, you can continue to add to the system relatively inexpensively.

Nice writeup by the way.
 
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The Sony flashes are very nice, but many find them a bit pricy. That's mainly why you get all these advices on cheaper 3. party flashes.

Note also that there are some reports on broken Godox flash shoes. That said, replacement parts are not expensive. And Sony flash shoes also can break.

Personally I use some Sony HVL-60 flashes, and I am pleased with them. I mostly use them manually with radio triggers, since I am used with studio flashes. But they also work very well wireless (infrared) with TTL/HSS.
 
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I want to try flash photography and just received a HVL-F45RM. Started reading some threads that said maybe that was not the best solution for the money.
I think it might depend on how you define "value for money." :)

Godox is the bee's knees for the budget set and for other reasons. But an OEM flash will have factory warranty service and customer support behind it. And it probably works better in TTL and for AF-assist than any third-party reverse-engineered flash will. I'm also thinking Sony's radio system, while pricey, probably doesn't have the same TTL underexposure with wide aperture settings the Godox X system does.

There may be reasons to keep an OEM flash, or maybe not. It's expensive. And for that price, you could put together a manual-only three-light setup with Godox gear. But whether that's a better choice depends on what you plan to use your flash for and how you plan to use it. I own a lot of Godox gear, but I kept my 580EXII specifically for event shooting with my 5DmkII. Sometimes there are reasons to own an OEM flash.
Anyway I can exchange it and was looking at this (see link.) Thoughts? I would be using it with the A7RIII and A6500. Thanks. Oh and anything else I might need such as umbrella, etc...
Well, a V860II is a lithium-ion flash, so the battery life will be a lot better. It does TTL and HSS, and has a multi-interface hotshoe. But head rotation is a little stuff, AF-assist may or may not work, and TTL accuracy is okay, except for the wide aperture bug. It may be a little big/heavy for a small mirrorless body, but that's a matter of personal taste.

The main advantages are that the Godox system supports five other camera brand systems with cross-switching (i.e., you can share lights with an other-system shooter or switch to another system by simply replacing the on-camera transmitter unit), and has a lot of larger-than-speedlight options. If those things matter to you, or you're willing to give up customer support (aside from what a retailer can give you) and warranty repair service for a lower price tag, then Godox may be the right choice for you.

If you want to use a flash off-camera, you typically need four additional pieces of gear:
  1. Some way to trigger the flash off-camera (radio transmitter, pop-up flash, sync cord)
  2. A light stand to hold the light in position where you want.
  3. An umbrella swivel or bracket to attach your light (and modifiers) to the lightstand.
  4. A modifier (typically an umbrella or softbox)
This Lighting 101 post on the Strobist demonstrates how they go together and how you use them (although he's using a flash without built-in radio triggering, so there's also a radio receiver in the path).
 
I have the 45 RM and a commander unit and it works very well.
 
I recently shot my first wedding and can highly recommend Godox! I bought the V860IIS, V350S, and the XPro. Being able to adjust the flashes remotely and shooting at 1/8000 is really convenient. Everything worked very reliably!

Before buying, I borrowed some flashes (Nikon and Canon) and dumb receivers/transceiver. The Godox flashes are clearly not as high quality as the more expensive brands, you can even feel that just by touching them, but the price is right and the V860II did survive a high fall onto a gravel road ;-)
 
Thanks guys for your input and suggestions. Do have one concern. The Sony has a dedicated light for video. While I rarely shoot video that is one of the reasons I bought it. Does the Godox or any of the other third party alternatives offer this feature or can they be used for video?
 
Thanks guys for your input and suggestions. Do have one concern. The Sony has a dedicated light for video. While I rarely shoot video that is one of the reasons I bought it. Does the Godox or any of the other third party alternatives offer this feature or can they be used for video?
What do you intend to light for your video? Lighting for video and for stills are completely different.

Depending on the power of the light from the flash it will look like a ENG type of thing.

ENG means electronic news gathering akin to a news reporter doing a remote stand up.

If you want something more artistic you need more power and a way to diffuse the harshness. Video also raises the question what do you want the quality of your audio to be.

I would say in a pinch where the subject inside 10 feet or closer to throw some light but it wont be flattering. It is like flash light lighting / a single light source.

Check out the web site DSLR video shooter.com and see if you like any of the classes on the Creative Live.com site
 
Thanks guys for your input and suggestions. Do have one concern. The Sony has a dedicated light for video. While I rarely shoot video that is one of the reasons I bought it. Does the Godox or any of the other third party alternatives offer this feature or can they be used for video?
Not yet, although we're getting reports that the rumored round-headed flash that's in the works will have an LED video light and LED AF assist.

http://flashhavoc.com/godox-round-head-speedlite-coming/
 
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I put together an article with a basic roadmap of how to get into lighting the best way.

https://theoverratedphotographer.com/2017/12/14/godox-an-easy-way-into-lighting-for-fujifilm/

In essence, the Godox way is probably the cheapest and easiest way to do it. The V860 is good, I can highly recommend it.
Thanks for sharing, I already have the 350s and Xpro trigger so this gives me confidence I’m on the right path.

I have a stupid question about the AD200, I thought a strobe light had both a modeling light and a flash, if so why would the AD200 have an optional flash head vs just using the strobe head for everything? More flash power?
 
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I put together an article with a basic roadmap of how to get into lighting the best way.

https://theoverratedphotographer.com/2017/12/14/godox-an-easy-way-into-lighting-for-fujifilm/

In essence, the Godox way is probably the cheapest and easiest way to do it. The V860 is good, I can highly recommend it.
Thanks for sharing, I already have the 350s and Xpro trigger so this gives me confidence I’m on the right path.

I have a stupid question about the AD200, I thought a strobe light had both a modeling light and a flash, if so why would the AD200 have an optional flash head vs just using the strobe head for everything? More flash power?
It's about direction of light. A strobe bulb sends the light in all directions which is good for filling a softbox and not creating a hotspot, the fresnel style flash head focusses the light more in one direction.
 
Godox is definetely better and you can get a wireless controller on the cheap for it (or the X-PRo one for a little more). Be aware that with V860 you are getting (and paying extra for) a rechargable battery. If you can live with AA batteries (I personally prefer them becasue their easier to exchange on the go) you can buy the TT685. It's basically the same flash as the V860, but with AA batteries instead of a dedicated one.
 

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