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before buying a Z?

This forum is clearly biased and in certain way misleading to new comers.

A saturation of curves and lines have been posted, particularly by Mr. Kasson (Moderator); but as has happened before, the camera itself which has not yet been proved, not curve-tested, might bring not pleasant surprises

Is this a Nikon’s miracle? Maybe, and then, maybe not.

Hold your horses and wait a while; marketing can be our worst enemy.
 
Raul said:
before buying a Z?

This forum is clearly biased and in certain way misleading to new comers.

A saturation of curves and lines have been posted, particularly by Mr. Kasson (Moderator); but as has happened before, the camera itself which has not yet been proved, not curve-tested, might bring not pleasant surprises
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Jim Kasson is an excellent source of useful non-biased scientific testing as I also uses Sony his tests have been very helpful to lots of folk.
Raul said:
Is this a Nikon’s miracle? Maybe, and then, maybe not.

Hold your horses and wait a while; marketing can be our worst enemy.
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I would suggest that most of the "bias" posted in this forum is from folk trolling negatively . It is not unexpected from fans of other brands Sony in particular have a little group that loves to attack other brands . What i do find amusing is the animosity displayed by a number of current Nikon DSLR users, I checked just to be sure and my Nikon DSLR gear continues to work exactly the same as it did before the Z7 came along. If the cameras do not measure up to your needs there are plenty of wonderful Nikon DSLR options.
 
Would it not be even wiser to wait 2 years for the Z8. Or 4 years for the Z10 I'm positive it'll be an even better camera!

Live and shoot while you can the future is not guaranteed.
 
I mean seriously, you've added nothing to the community as a whole, you provided no argument as to WHY someone should wait. Instead you pointed out the very good testing done by Jim, who has shown the Z7 to be a very good camera so far through his tests. You just sound like a troll, over and over posting nothing but negativity regarding the camera. It's ALWAYS wise to suggest people wait a few months when any new product comes out, there's no point in arguing otherwise, especially a first gen product. But to continue to come to this forum and not add anything of substance to the discussion is just....a waste of time.
 
Raul said:
before buying a Z?

This forum is clearly biased and in certain way misleading to new comers.

A saturation of curves and lines have been posted, particularly by Mr. Kasson (Moderator); but as has happened before, the camera itself which has not yet been proved, not curve-tested, might bring not pleasant surprises

Is this a Nikon’s miracle? Maybe, and then, maybe not.

Hold your horses and wait a while; marketing can be our worst enemy.
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Yes this forum is clearly biased which isn't unusual or even unreasonable but it is potentially the enemy of someone trying to get unbiased information about the Z7. That said, it's pretty easy to figure out who to avoid and who to pay attention to when you're looking for good information and not just a Z7 pep rally. Still, waiting is the safest approach IMO.
 
Clayton1985 said:
Raul said:
before buying a Z?

This forum is clearly biased and in certain way misleading to new comers.

A saturation of curves and lines have been posted, particularly by Mr. Kasson (Moderator); but as has happened before, the camera itself which has not yet been proved, not curve-tested, might bring not pleasant surprises

Is this a Nikon’s miracle? Maybe, and then, maybe not.

Hold your horses and wait a while; marketing can be our worst enemy.
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Yes this forum is clearly biased which isn't unusual or even unreasonable but it is potentially the enemy of someone trying to get unbiased information about the Z7. That said, it's pretty easy to figure out who to avoid and who to pay attention to when you're looking for good information and not just a Z7 pep rally. Still, waiting is the safest approach IMO.
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Agreed. Jim's tests are getting more and more useful. We can only be most grateful to his efforts and generosity. His latest data cast doubt on yet another issue that elicited yet another feeding frenzy by trolls etc. This is the purported banding in Z7 images. Not an issue if you use the camera sanely ie don't try push a poorly exposed image by several stops...

There are what appear to be bugs (or rather gaps) in customizing the Z7. I'm quietly confident future firmware will fix current niggles. We clearly have a Nikon classic in all the best ways of the tradition of quality and reliability. BTW the Z7 complements the D850 and top DSLRs in key aspects (I shoot both as partners).

The Z7 is well built, and sealed, hits the Goldilocks Zone in its haptics, size et al. The fact the Z7 is the first ship out of port in the all new Nikkor Z system makes this all the more significant. and the Z Nikons will get even better. We are privileged to live in interesting times :-D

No mysteries why the opposition and conservatives are trolling - clear signs of panic. Pathetic really...
 
Rent one and decide for your self.
 
Raul said:
before buying a Z?

This forum is clearly biased and in certain way misleading to new comers.
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Of course every forum and every post is biased. That's natural. People only know what they know, and like to draw conclusions acceptable to them based on what they know.
Raul said:
A saturation of curves and lines have been posted, particularly by Mr. Kasson (Moderator);
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That's your biased opinion
Raul said:
but as has happened before, the camera itself which has not yet been proved, not curve-tested, might bring not pleasant surprises
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As you said, nothing new or unexpected with a new camera. If we carefully weed out the noise, the actual samples and experiences posted here are valuable for anyone who doesn't have the camera yet. If you have one, then you don't have to go through that because you already know it.
Raul said:
Is this a Nikon’s miracle? Maybe, and then, maybe not.

Hold your horses and wait a while; marketing can be our worst enemy.
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That's true of anything new. That's what separates the adventurous from the safe players. If one can afford it, why not?

Time to lock this thread because discussing the moderators is against the rules ;-)
 
Raul said:
before buying a Z?

This forum is clearly biased and in certain way misleading to new comers.

A saturation of curves and lines have been posted, particularly by Mr. Kasson (Moderator); but as has happened before, the camera itself which has not yet been proved, not curve-tested, might bring not pleasant surprises

Is this a Nikon’s miracle? Maybe, and then, maybe not.

Hold your horses and wait a while; marketing can be our worst enemy.
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The much parroted "don't be an early adopter" speech.

Old, repetitive, maternal types need to get new material.
 
I was a very early adopter of the D750 ( first wave) and never had one issue or doubt that I had bought a great camera since the first moment till today.

Not so sure waiting and missing great shots for 2 years waiting for the next generation is really worth it. I'm in again as a first adopter of the Z6. Hope this early adoption woryks for me like the D750.
 
Jerry Fisher said:
I was a very early adopter of the D750 ( first wave) and never had one issue or doubt that I had bought a great camera since the first moment till today.

Not so sure waiting and missing great shots for 2 years waiting for the next generation is really worth it. I'm in again as a first adopter of the Z6. Hope this early adoption woryks for me like the D750.
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I'd still be using Canon if I had not EA'ed the Sony A7. Best thing I've ever done in my history of owning cameras.

But, yes, we get these silly, repetitive warnings every-single-time a camera is released from the forum's platitude parrots.
 
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In the UK they are on back order, and the queue is getting longer.

Nikon apologised just before launch that pre-orders were higher than predicated - with some waiting time likely.

Whether you should or should not get a Z7 (or Z6 when available) if you order one what are the chances of receiving one within 2 months?
 
Raul said:
Is this a Nikon’s miracle? Maybe, and then, maybe not.
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I do not why we could call a miracle a product that goes into the market after a proper development and testing period. If enough effort is put into it the product should be working perfectly at entry into service.
 
Raul said:
before buying a Z?

This forum is clearly biased and in certain way misleading to new comers.

A saturation of curves and lines have been posted, particularly by Mr. Kasson (Moderator); but as has happened before, the camera itself which has not yet been proved, not curve-tested, might bring not pleasant surprises

Is this a Nikon’s miracle? Maybe, and then, maybe not.

Hold your horses and wait a while; marketing can be our worst enemy.
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I always wait for my cameras. Usually four to six months. I waited six months before ordering my D850. I've seen many cameras that not everything is known or problems develop. I have no desire to be a Nikon (or any companies) beta tester.
 
Raul said:
before buying a Z?

This forum is clearly biased and in certain way misleading to new comers.

A saturation of curves and lines have been posted, particularly by Mr. Kasson (Moderator); but as has happened before, the camera itself which has not yet been proved, not curve-tested, might bring not pleasant surprises

Is this a Nikon’s miracle? Maybe, and then, maybe not.

Hold your horses and wait a while; marketing can be our worst enemy.
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The Z7 has been out for 2, 3 weeks? If there were any major issues, I think they would have been reported widely by now. There is a lot of incentives for Nikon's competition to discover such issues and broadcast them to various forums. It will go viral in no time.

On the other hand, e.g. Amazon has had the Z7 in stock for a couple of weeks. It isn't like they are flying off the shelves. If you can wait 6 months to a year, potentially Nikon may discount them by a couple hundred dollars. It is up to you to decide whether it is worthwhile to wait for such small discounts.

If you need or can use a new Z7, I would get it now as long as you can afford it.
 
EricTheAstroJunkie said:
I mean seriously, you've added nothing to the community as a whole, you provided no argument as to WHY someone should wait. Instead you pointed out the very good testing done by Jim, who has shown the Z7 to be a very good camera so far through his tests. You just sound like a troll, over and over posting nothing but negativity regarding the camera. It's ALWAYS wise to suggest people wait a few months when any new product comes out, there's no point in arguing otherwise, especially a first gen product. But to continue to come to this forum and not add anything of substance to the discussion is just....a waste of time.
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Surprised to see that after 28 posts you are such an expert. In the past some Nikon cameras have shown issues after they are used in the field for a while. All I am saying is that people like you, not Nikon users, should wait a while. What is wrong with that? I´ve been here since D1.
 
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