MADE in JAPAN

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MADE in 🇯🇵 vs MADE in 🇨🇳

Expectedly Canon cameras 📷 here the EOS R are going to resell for more 💴 than Made in China competitors

Now, the question is which premium consumers are ready to pay 💰
 
Made in Japan is good for two reasons (over say China).

1. Although tariff's for folks that live in the states applies to more than just China, they are the target of them lately due to IP theft. Japan, less so, thankfully to our wallets.

2. Automated assembly is likely. Yay for quality control.
 
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Is it actually assembled in Japan, where the underlying parts are mostly made in China ?
 
I would much rather have (and do have) made in Japan cameras and not made by Chi-coms.
 
While other camera manufacturers focus on producing disposable electronics using cheap labor (and often materials) with short update and obsolescene cycles, Canon invests in durability and pro level support for many years after purchase. The company never rushes a product to the market even if it takes years of testing. We should always remember that the most important is lenses. Canon’s optical innovations are unmatched.
 
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While other camera manufacturers focus on producing disposable electronics using cheap labor (and often materials) with short update and obsolescene cycles, Canon invests in durability and pro level support for many years after purchase. The company never rushes a product to the market even if it takes years of testing. We should always remember that the most important is lenses. Canon’s optical innovations are unmatched.
2 week launch after Nikon Z? Doesn't sound like years of testing. But the AF system probably has gone through quite an evolution using the EOS50M as a testing bed.

Greg.
 
While other camera manufacturers focus on producing disposable electronics using cheap labor (and often materials) with short update and obsolescene cycles, Canon invests in durability and pro level support for many years after purchase. The company never rushes a product to the market even if it takes years of testing. We should always remember that the most important is lenses. Canon’s optical innovations are unmatched.
2 week launch after Nikon Z? Doesn't sound like years of testing. But the AF system probably has gone through quite an evolution using the EOS50M as a testing bed.

Greg.
hmm? How long do you think Canon been testing EOS R? Reports of testing were showing up well over a year ago.
 
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I would much rather have (and do have) made in Japan cameras and not made by Chi-coms.
Anybody who says "Chi-coms" (presumably for "Chinese Communists") with a straight face given that it's in large portion capitalism run amok over there is pretty much telling everyone he's an kook that hasn't gotten out since the '70s.

There are valid and semi-valid reasons why one might believe supporting China-based industries is problematic... but simple "Communism" isn't one of them.
 
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While other camera manufacturers focus on producing disposable electronics using cheap labor (and often materials) with short update and obsolescene cycles, Canon invests in durability and pro level support for many years after purchase. The company never rushes a product to the market even if it takes years of testing. We should always remember that the most important is lenses. Canon’s optical innovations are unmatched.
2 week launch after Nikon Z? Doesn't sound like years of testing. But the AF system probably has gone through quite an evolution using the EOS50M as a testing bed.

Greg.
hmm? How long do you think Canon been testing EOS R? Reports of testing were showing up well over a year ago.
Yes, I agree...that remark about the 2 weeks after Z launch is quite strange. Obviously the Canon R was in testing for far longer than that and the launch was planned well in advance of the Z launch. These cameras cannot just be conjured up with the snap of a finger. They are years in development and testing. A launch cannot happen with the snap of a finger. That too takes years of planning on the manufacturing side.
 
If that's your justification for paying a premium for an inferior product, then so be it.
 
I would much rather have (and do have) made in Japan cameras and not made by Chi-coms.
Anybody who says "Chi-coms" (presumably for "Chinese Communists") with a straight face given that it's in large portion capitalism run amok over there is pretty much telling everyone he's an kook that hasn't gotten out since the '70s.

There are valid and semi-valid reasons why one might believe supporting China-based industries is problematic... but simple "Communism" isn't one of them.
Don't be so naive.
 
MADE in 🇯🇵 vs MADE in 🇨🇳

Expectedly Canon cameras 📷 here the EOS R are going to resell for more 💴 than Made in China competitors

Now, the question is which premium consumers are ready to pay 💰
for Japan, it is a matter of pride in their products. they don't like to be associated with cheap anything, just like their automobiles! sony has taken the chap route, and it is showing in their customer service as well. i hear lots of complaints about sony's service, which would cost them dearly in the long run.
 
Even the Canon M100 is made in Japan.

As for China, my understanding is that some companies are moving out of China, to countries were labor is even cheaper.
 
I would much rather have (and do have) made in Japan cameras and not made by Chi-coms.
Anybody who says "Chi-coms" (presumably for "Chinese Communists") with a straight face given that it's in large portion capitalism run amok over there is pretty much telling everyone he's an kook that hasn't gotten out since the '70s.

There are valid and semi-valid reasons why one might believe supporting China-based industries is problematic... but simple "Communism" isn't one of them.
Don't be so naive.
Don't be so stupid.

I have actual connections there. Feel free to consider me part of the conspiracy.
 
If you are fine with slave labor, that's your business, no need to insult someone who isn't.
 
Don't be so naive.
Don't be so stupid.

I have actual connections there. Feel free to consider me part of the conspiracy.
I will have to agree with you there. PRC aka China is one place where extreme capitalism exists. As far as I understand (first hand), there are only two classes of people there, the ruling class and the peasants, which ironically was brought back by the current communist party.

Anyway, Made in Japan is one of the main reasons why I am still sticking with Canon. The fact that the like of Nikon and many other companies switch a large portion of their production to SE Asia is to maximise their profit, not to lower the price for us consumers, is a big issue. And you know there is a problem when Chinese don't actually prefer "Made in China" good.

It is also true that a lot of companies are moving their production lines away from China, either to cheaper countries or back to US/Europe/Japan for the higher end products. There are several factors in there, mainly due to the rising salary/cost in China and the inability of the Chinese authority to curb IP issues. I think Canon is absolutely doing the right thing.
 

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