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Hello everybody,

I have 30K shutter count 5DMII and I just broke my 20mm f2.8 Canon lens. It’s irreparable. So, Instead of getting a new lens I would like weight my options here. Do you think it’s better to get a 24-105 L series lens or just sell the 5DMII (for practically nothing) and get a new models? Maybe 5DMIV or 6DMII?

Thank you.

Cheers!
 
Dogancan said:
Hello everybody,

I have 30K shutter count 5DMII and I just broke my 20mm f2.8 Canon lens. It’s irreparable. So, Instead of getting a new lens I would like weight my options here. Do you think it’s better to get a 24-105 L series lens or just sell the 5DMII (for practically nothing) and get a new models? Maybe 5DMIV or 6DMII?

Thank you.

Cheers!
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Assuming you don't shoot action, the 5D II is a very nice camera and a shutter count of 30k means there should be lots of life left in the body. If you shoot action, you already know you need a more advanced body.

Depending on your budget and photo needs, I would invest my money in top-quality lenses--probably my favorite is the 16-35 f/4L IS. A 24-105 is O.K., but many are less than delighted with the image quality when pixel peeping. A 24-70 f/2.8L II is wonderful, but pretty pricey.
 
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Dogancan said:
Hello everybody,

I have 30K shutter count 5DMII and I just broke my 20mm f2.8 Canon lens. It’s irreparable. So, Instead of getting a new lens I would like weight my options here. Do you think it’s better to get a 24-105 L series lens or just sell the 5DMII (for practically nothing) and get a new models? Maybe 5DMIV or 6DMII?

Thank you.

Cheers!
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Without knowing your other gear if any.

Lens is broken. No lens

Sell working camera. No camera.

Why sell your working camera for little?

Buy a new lens for your workhorse. 30 K is not a lot of wear and tear on your Mark III.

Down the road buy a new camera and keep the Mark III as a second body or a back up if financially possible.

24-105 L is a nice walk around one lens solution.

You can always build on that foundation.
 
I think as this is your first posts in the forum, and no one knows what gear you have or what sort of things you shoot..... any advice is difficult.

Add to that that the next few months are likely to be some of the most revolutionary for ages, in terms of changes in the sort of gear available , I would mostly suggest waiting to see what happens next. This is of course as long as you can hold out for a couple of months.

If Canon change the body style and mount with the new mirrorless, you will possibly see a bit of second hand equipment about. Of course if your looking at lenses and bodies you may decide the new style offerings are more you choice. Either way the next two months should open the curtains to the choices available for all.
 
Sony A7R2 user, I had a pre owned EF 24-70 F4 IS L lens and just of curiosity bought an old Canon 5DM2 camera (15K exposure) to see how the FF Canon performs. I like it very much. The EF 24-70 F4 zoom has macro setting and performs little better than the 24-105. Also bought the EF16-35 F4 wide zoom. Fantastic performers, and the old 5DM2 is fun and reliable, easy to use workhorse compare to the "more sophisticated" but constantly challenging A7R2

Keep the 5DM2, buy quality lenses instead! - You would be surprised how little is the IQ difference (in normal circumstances) compare to the newer sensor bodies. :)

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UBL
 
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I'd invest in a good lens, if you need wide get the 16-35 f4 LIS. If you need a good standard zoom I would go for the 24-70 f2.8.

There may be more Canon ef glass on the second hand market soon due to new mirrorless models coming out. Buy from a good dealer with a guarantee.
 
Thanks for all the posts! I was really happy with my prime lens and wanted to get a new L series lens anyways but other than some issues about the camera, the only reason that I find to change my 5DMII was the age of the model. There has been lots of improvement and I wanted to keep up with that. Probably I will stick with the body and get a really sharp L series lens. Since this is my only camera (if you don’t count Fuji X100T) and my other lens is good old 50mm 1.8, It’s better to hold.

Cheers!
 
..correction for the 15K shutter count - is actually 150K and still working flawlessly :)
 
You have to ask yourself what a newer camera will gain you yourself. Sure your camera may not have the latest specs but do you really need the latest and greatest camera? Especially considering that you will need to spend thousands of dollars to get it, and you probably won't use it much more than you use your present camera (no offense, but 30,000 images on a camera introduced ten years ago is not a lot of use). So do you need the megapixels to make billboard sized prints -- or crop to a minuscule portion of the image? Do you need 4K video? Do you need better high ISO capability -- do you photograph night clubs or the night sky or cityscapes at night or push dawn or dusk? Unless you can make a solid case for a new camera, I would opt for new lenses. (That is what I do: buy new improved lenses to use on my 6D and 7D Mark II.)
 
Dogancan said:
Hello everybody,

I have 30K shutter count 5DMII and I just broke my 20mm f2.8 Canon lens. It’s irreparable. So, Instead of getting a new lens I would like weight my options here. Do you think it’s better to get a 24-105 L series lens or just sell the 5DMII (for practically nothing) and get a new models? Maybe 5DMIV or 6DMII?

Thank you.

Cheers!
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Hi Dogancan

I'm still using a 5DII but have invested a lot of money in good glass and would advise that your priority should be to do the same. A new body can wait until you can clearly identify some feature or spec your 5DII doesn't have that you absolutely need. Then you can consider upgrading the body.

Until then, the onus on us as photographers is now and always has been to know the equipment well enough to work within it's limitations (DR, ISO, resolution or whatever) to get the best possible shot the gear can provide. I should add that I haven't always followed this advice and sometimes bought gear far better than I know how to use. For example, I almost rushed out to buy a 5DSr because of the high MP sensor (I like the deep cropping capability) but held off because I knew I didn't really need it. It was a want rather than a need. Now I'll hold off and see what the 5DSrII (if any) has to offer.

Just my ten cents

Trevor
 
sacentre said:
Dogancan said:
Hello everybody,

I have 30K shutter count 5DMII and I just broke my 20mm f2.8 Canon lens. It’s irreparable. So, Instead of getting a new lens I would like weight my options here. Do you think it’s better to get a 24-105 L series lens or just sell the 5DMII (for practically nothing) and get a new models? Maybe 5DMIV or 6DMII?

Thank you.

Cheers!
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Hi Dogancan

I'm still using a 5DII but have invested a lot of money in good glass and would advise that your priority should be to do the same. A new body can wait until you can clearly identify some feature or spec your 5DII doesn't have that you absolutely need. Then you can consider upgrading the body.

Until then, the onus on us as photographers is now and always has been to know the equipment well enough to work within it's limitations (DR, ISO, resolution or whatever) to get the best possible shot the gear can provide. I should add that I haven't always followed this advice and sometimes bought gear far better than I know how to use. For example, I almost rushed out to buy a 5DSr because of the high MP sensor (I like the deep cropping capability) but held off because I knew I didn't really need it. It was a want rather than a need. Now I'll hold off and see what the 5DSrII (if any) has to offer.

Just my ten cents

Trevor
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I'm hoping mirrorless will sink some used prices more.

Been seeing some 5d more ii bodies in the 4 to 5 hundred range. Heard af is little iffy though
 
Dogancan said:
Hello everybody,

I have 30K shutter count 5DMII and I just broke my 20mm f2.8 Canon lens. It’s irreparable. So, Instead of getting a new lens I would like weight my options here. Do you think it’s better to get a 24-105 L series lens or just sell the 5DMII (for practically nothing) and get a new models? Maybe 5DMIV or 6DMII?

Thank you.

Cheers!
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Tend to agree with several other posters here. You have a barely broken in working FF camera and a broken lens. Get a lens first.

Canon 24-70 f2.8 is fantastic, costly and heavy, 24-70f4 is very good, cheaper and has IS (reports have it marginally better than the 24-105).

If you want f2.8 AND IS Tamron and Sigma make them, quite good, cheaper than Canon but also quite heavy.

I like my 24-70 f4 IS quite a bit even on my crop body

Just my $.02 worth, your mileage may vary
 
If you want to play safe, dont buy the 24-105L, unless you enjoy sending it to repair once a while.

Keep the MKii, buy the most reliable Canon lens ever, the kit 28-135 3.5-5.6..tbh as good as the 24-105, without the aperture motor headaches..this kit was built to last..since its cheap, youll save enough to get the proposed FF Canon milc (which I havent seen Canon say anything about that), and you wont lose money if it comes with another mount..
 
codecxbox said:
If you want to play safe, dont buy the 24-105L, unless you enjoy sending it to repair once a while.

Keep the MKii, buy the most reliable Canon lens ever, the kit 28-135 3.5-5.6..tbh as good as the 24-105, without the aperture motor headaches..this kit was built to last..since its cheap, youll save enough to get the proposed FF Canon milc (which I havent seen Canon say anything about that), and you wont lose money if it comes with another mount..
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Although I did have to have a repair to my 24-105, I had to have TWO repairs to my 28-135 in a shorter time frame, so I wouldn't call it reliable in any way.
 
Rock and Rollei said:
codecxbox said:
If you want to play safe, dont buy the 24-105L, unless you enjoy sending it to repair once a while.

Keep the MKii, buy the most reliable Canon lens ever, the kit 28-135 3.5-5.6..tbh as good as the 24-105, without the aperture motor headaches..this kit was built to last..since its cheap, youll save enough to get the proposed FF Canon milc (which I havent seen Canon say anything about that), and you wont lose money if it comes with another mount..
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Although I did have to have a repair to my 24-105, I had to have TWO repairs to my 28-135 in a shorter time frame, so I wouldn't call it reliable in any way.
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Sir, my ex 24-105L has 3 repairs at $300 each under the hood, and was going for the fourth at $425..the 28-135 has seen 3 times more sun soil and rain, and its just cute as ever..dont tell me bad copy, yours died too, so its not a sample thing..
 
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Dogancan said:
Hello everybody,

I have 30K shutter count 5DMII and I just broke my 20mm f2.8 Canon lens. It’s irreparable. So, Instead of getting a new lens I would like weight my options here. Do you think it’s better to get a 24-105 L series lens or just sell the 5DMII (for practically nothing) and get a new models? Maybe 5DMIV or 6DMII?

Thank you.

Cheers!
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your camera will be fine for a long time to come, so i'd definitely vote for a 24-105 f4.0!!!
 
codecxbox said:
Rock and Rollei said:
codecxbox said:
If you want to play safe, dont buy the 24-105L, unless you enjoy sending it to repair once a while.

Keep the MKii, buy the most reliable Canon lens ever, the kit 28-135 3.5-5.6..tbh as good as the 24-105, without the aperture motor headaches..this kit was built to last..since its cheap, youll save enough to get the proposed FF Canon milc (which I havent seen Canon say anything about that), and you wont lose money if it comes with another mount..
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Although I did have to have a repair to my 24-105, I had to have TWO repairs to my 28-135 in a shorter time frame, so I wouldn't call it reliable in any way.
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Sir, my ex 24-105L has 3 repairs at $300 each under the hood, and was going for the fourth at $425..the 28-135 has seen 3 times more sun soil and rain, and its just cute as ever..dont tell me bad copy, yours died too, so its not a sample thing..
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If it was fixed properly, it shouldn't have failed again. Sounds like you've been ripped off by the repairer.

The 28-135 is simply a poor design. The extension came break and need to be replaced, and there's no way to improve on that. The amount of wobble at full extension is a good indication of the build problems of this lens. It's not bad optically, although not as good as the 24-105, but the OP is looking to replace a 20mm lens. The difference between 20mm and 28mm is enormous, and is likely to lead to huge dissatisfaction; there's still a lot of difference between 20 and 24mm, but at least 24mm is properly wide. I wouldn't consider 28mm ti be any sort of replacement for 20mm.
 
codecxbox said:
Rock and Rollei said:
codecxbox said:
If you want to play safe, dont buy the 24-105L, unless you enjoy sending it to repair once a while.

Keep the MKii, buy the most reliable Canon lens ever, the kit 28-135 3.5-5.6..tbh as good as the 24-105, without the aperture motor headaches..this kit was built to last..since its cheap, youll save enough to get the proposed FF Canon milc (which I havent seen Canon say anything about that), and you wont lose money if it comes with another mount..
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Although I did have to have a repair to my 24-105, I had to have TWO repairs to my 28-135 in a shorter time frame, so I wouldn't call it reliable in any way.
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Sir, my ex 24-105L has 3 repairs at $300 each under the hood, and was going for the fourth at $425..the 28-135 has seen 3 times more sun soil and rain, and its just cute as ever..dont tell me bad copy, yours died too, so its not a sample thing..
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That 24-105 L mark I should have undergone a recall for all the headache it caused users. The IS would go out and then cause the whole to shutter. AF would not work at certain focal lengths. I think they pinpointed some kind of weak ribbon design at the fault. Anyhow, Canon should've owned up to it and did a recall. Or, let everyone switch out for mark II models.
 
Tog-meister said:
codecxbox said:
Rock and Rollei said:
codecxbox said:
If you want to play safe, dont buy the 24-105L, unless you enjoy sending it to repair once a while.

Keep the MKii, buy the most reliable Canon lens ever, the kit 28-135 3.5-5.6..tbh as good as the 24-105, without the aperture motor headaches..this kit was built to last..since its cheap, youll save enough to get the proposed FF Canon milc (which I havent seen Canon say anything about that), and you wont lose money if it comes with another mount..
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Although I did have to have a repair to my 24-105, I had to have TWO repairs to my 28-135 in a shorter time frame, so I wouldn't call it reliable in any way.
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Sir, my ex 24-105L has 3 repairs at $300 each under the hood, and was going for the fourth at $425..the 28-135 has seen 3 times more sun soil and rain, and its just cute as ever..dont tell me bad copy, yours died too, so its not a sample thing..
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That 24-105 L mark I should have undergone a recall for all the headache it caused users. The IS would go out and then cause the whole to shutter. AF would not work at certain focal lengths. I think they pinpointed some kind of weak ribbon design at the fault. Anyhow, Canon should've owned up to it and did a recall. Or, let everyone switch out for mark II models.
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contrary to your outrage, i have a 24-105 f4.0 that i purchased in 2006 for my 5D! i loved that setup and used the heck out of them--still have them, never had any issue with them. now, i can understand that some owners may have had issues with them but that can happen to any camera/lens! but i can understand your feeling, i'd be outraged if it happened to me as well.
 
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