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I currently have a Nikon D7500 with quite a few lenses. I am looking for a full frame mirrorless camera as a second camera, due to I am getting into doing a mix of photoshoots, cars, real estate, wedding/engagement. The Sony A III looks to be the choice to get, but Nikon is announcing their full frame mirrorless next week.

Should I wait to see what Nikon comes with, or pull the trigger and get the A7 III?
 
Sony is available now. The Nikon is going to be announced. That does not mean it will be available at the same time. It may be months later. Until the announcement, the specs of the Nikon are unknown. It will be longer after the camera actually goes on sale before sites like DPReview actually posts a review.
 
There are so many other choices, and depending on your needs.
 
That is a very good point. No idea when the camera will be released to GA to buy. Also, one of my thoughts is, will the Nikon be comparable to the Sony and at or below the same price point?
 
I am waiting, my thought is even though an adapter to use my other lenses, most of them are DX not FX, so they won't be full-frame on a full frame camera. So, my staying in the same ecosystem for both wouldn't be an advantage.

My main concern, and waiting to see, will the Nikon FFM be comparable to the A7 III at the same or lower price point? Right now, looking for thoughts and feedback on the A7 III owners.

Thanks!
 
bwebmasta said:
What I want is a good second camera, FF, mirrorless, 4K, and good performance with autofocus, shooting short video, great quality shots. Dual SD slots is a nice to have. The A7 III seems to tick all the boxes, and under $2K.
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But Sony full-frame lenses are very expensive. Much cheaper if you get an A6300/A6500 instead.
 
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I am waiting, my thought is even though an adapter to use my other lenses, most of them are DX not FX, so they won't be full-frame on a full frame camera. So, my staying in the same ecosystem for both wouldn't be an advantage.

My main concern, and waiting to see, will the Nikon FFM be comparable to the A7 III at the same or lower price point? Right now, looking for thoughts and feedback on the A7 III owners.

Thanks!
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I have an a7iii, and I love the camera. It should do quite well for the purposes you mentioned, and I am happy to recommend it. But just as you said, wait until the Nikon is announced. If the Sony looks to be significantly better after the announcement, consider the a7iii. If the Nikon appears even similar or better, I'd be inclined to stay with Nikon.

I haven't been keeping up with how well adapted Nikon lenses are performing on the a7iii, but my thinking is that they would be likely to perform better in the long term on a Nikon body, as adapters, lenses, and their firmware would have the full support of Nikon.

Regarding availability, I don't know when the Nikon will be available, but the a7iii is still backordered most everywhere as well. It will certainly be a longer wait for the Nikon, but if you get an early preorder, it might not be that much longer.

But again, I suspect that many of these questions will be answered at the Nikon announcement, and you can go from there.
 
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bwebmasta said:
I am waiting, my thought is even though an adapter to use my other lenses, most of them are DX not FX, so they won't be full-frame on a full frame camera. So, my staying in the same ecosystem for both wouldn't be an advantage.

My main concern, and waiting to see, will the Nikon FFM be comparable to the A7 III at the same or lower price point? Right now, looking for thoughts and feedback on the A7 III owners.

Thanks!
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The a7iii is a pretty spectacular camera. I can't imagine anyone not being very happy with it - it does everything, and does everything very well indeed. They are so good i grab mine in preference to my a7r3, which probably doesn't entirely make sense, but the AF is a little better, AF coverage is quite a bit better, and the noise performance is a little better, video is a little cleaner and sharper (FF).

For the price I find it very hard to believe Nikon's first attempt at FFM will equal the a7iii, let alone surpass it. But who knows...
 
If Nikon is doing right, the prizes for (used) Sony equipment might get down.
 
bwebmasta said:
I currently have a Nikon D7500 with quite a few lenses. I am looking for a full frame mirrorless camera as a second camera, due to I am getting into doing a mix of photoshoots, cars, real estate, wedding/engagement. The Sony A III looks to be the choice to get, but Nikon is announcing their full frame mirrorless next week.

Should I wait to see what Nikon comes with, or pull the trigger and get the A7 III?
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My prior-to-Sony camera was a pair of D7000 bodies. Great camera. I had a lot of lenses, even a GPS tracking system, the SB800 and SB400 strobes. I used a Hoodman on the LCD to make a kind of EVF for shooting video.

My Nikon AiS manual-focus lenses for video I bought for my D7000s are among my favorites on my A7III, adapted with the TechArt Pro autofocus adapter.

The sensor in my D7000’s was a Sony, so perhaps the new Nikon will use a Sony sensor, too.

But...if all your D7500 lenses are DX lenses, waiting will not help. And even if they are FX (full frame) Nikon may decide to reduce the mount-to-sensor distance, either requiring adapters or possibly whole new lenses.

You might as well wait because your Nikon full-frame autofocus lenses are not going to be easily adapted to Sony cameras. And perhaps the first Nikon full-frame mirrorless will be a star.

But be prepared to be disappointed - especially when you compare the specs and price to an A7III.

A few years back, I’d given away one D7000 with all DX lenses, except one body with the kit zoom. A friend wanted to borrow it for the weekend, so I charged the batteries, put an SD card in it - and just for kicks, decided to take a few test snaps. I was shocked to see how antiquated and dark the optical viewfinder is, and how absent of all the shooting information on a Sony EVF. I thought the Sony menu system was unsophisticated, but it is light years ahead of the multi-level Nikon ones.

I realize there’s a temptation to hold onto your Nikons till their mirrorless announces, and buy the Sony A7IIII and shoot it in parallel with your current Nikon. I did.

But it would have been better if I had rented a Sony and a few lenses for a weekend. Because once I actually purchased a full-frame Sony, with the intent of transitioning from the Nikon, and started shooting the Sony A7, I never once picked up my D7000 again. I should have sold everything then (2014) rather than hang onto it.

Rent a Sony FF mirrorless now, then wait for the Nikon announcement. Then sell your Nikon stuff before the value crashes like mine did.
 
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If Nikon rumor holds true, its Z6, a D750 ML version will be A7 III's direct competitor. But we don't know how good its performance - AF, is there an eye-AF feature?, IBIS..until detail reviews come out and available in market that will be another 1~2 months at least. Then initially Nikon will only launch a few Z lenses (3 on rumor), and we don't know how F-Z adapter works. If you don't have many FX lenses, you have all options open. But if you could wait, just wait and see.

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Wow. This is a totally different perspective, some really good thoughts here. Some Sony heads are telling me I may not want to use my 7500 as much. Thanks for the feedback!
 
Good thought there indeed. I will be shooting a wedding around next March, so I would like some time to get acclimated with my second shooter. It's no telling when Nikon will actually have the camera for purchase, reviewed. Renting may be a good option.
 
W3PYF said:
bwebmasta said:
I currently have a Nikon D7500 with quite a few lenses. I am looking for a full frame mirrorless camera as a second camera, due to I am getting into doing a mix of photoshoots, cars, real estate, wedding/engagement. The Sony A III looks to be the choice to get, but Nikon is announcing their full frame mirrorless next week.

Should I wait to see what Nikon comes with, or pull the trigger and get the A7 III?
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My prior-to-Sony camera was a pair of D7000 bodies. Great camera. I had a lot of lenses, even a GPS tracking system, the SB800 and SB400 strobes. I used a Hoodman on the LCD to make a kind of EVF for shooting video.

My Nikon AiS manual-focus lenses for video I bought for my D7000s are among my favorites on my A7III, adapted with the TechArt Pro autofocus adapter.

The sensor in my D7000’s was a Sony, so perhaps the new Nikon will use a Sony sensor, too.

But...if all your D7500 lenses are DX lenses, waiting will not help. And even if they are FX (full frame) Nikon may decide to reduce the mount-to-sensor distance, either requiring adapters or possibly whole new lenses.

You might as well wait because your Nikon full-frame autofocus lenses are not going to be easily adapted to Sony cameras. And perhaps the first Nikon full-frame mirrorless will be a star.

But be prepared to be disappointed - especially when you compare the specs and price to an A7III.

A few years back, I’d given away one D7000 with all DX lenses, except one body with the kit zoom. A friend wanted to borrow it for the weekend, so I charged the batteries, put an SD card in it - and just for kicks, decided to take a few test snaps. I was shocked to see how antiquated and dark the optical viewfinder is, and how absent of all the shooting information on a Sony EVF. I thought the Sony menu system was unsophisticated, but it is light years ahead of the multi-level Nikon ones.

I realize there’s a temptation to hold onto your Nikons till their mirrorless announces, and buy the Sony A7IIII and shoot it in parallel with your current Nikon. I did.

But it would have been better if I had rented a Sony and a few lenses for a weekend. Because once I actually purchased a full-frame Sony, with the intent of transitioning from the Nikon, and started shooting the Sony A7, I never once picked up my D7000 again. I should have sold everything then (2014) rather than hang onto it.

Rent a Sony FF mirrorless now, then wait for the Nikon announcement. Then sell your Nikon stuff before the value crashes like mine did.
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Good comment - i kept my Pentax stuff mostly when i got my A7rII, with the idea i might use it in parallel. But i can't help myself grabbing the Sony everytime i go out.

One won't want to use their DX lenses on this FF camera - at least thats what i found with my NEX aps lenses.

Best of luck - but i don't think I would wait if it was me.
 
This prompts me to go ahead and get the A7 III. It may be months before the Nikon is out for purchase. Then I only have one FF Nikon lens, the rest are DX.
 
OlHeath said:
bwebmasta said:
I am waiting, my thought is even though an adapter to use my other lenses, most of them are DX not FX, so they won't be full-frame on a full frame camera. So, my staying in the same ecosystem for both wouldn't be an advantage.

My main concern, and waiting to see, will the Nikon FFM be comparable to the A7 III at the same or lower price point? Right now, looking for thoughts and feedback on the A7 III owners.

Thanks!
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The a7iii is a pretty spectacular camera. I can't imagine anyone not being very happy with it - it does everything, and does everything very well indeed. They are so good i grab mine in preference to my a7r3, which probably doesn't entirely make sense, but the AF is a little better, AF coverage is quite a bit better, and the noise performance is a little better, video is a little cleaner and sharper (FF).

For the price I find it very hard to believe Nikon's first attempt at FFM will equal the a7iii, let alone surpass it. But who knows...
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From to-days rumor news, it looks like Nikon's strong suite will be the 3 new lenses that will be offered. They have targeted exactly where Sony's weakness lies in FE lenses.
 
at least see what they announce

I personally think it'll be a bit different from the "rumors" which often make little sense. That "rumored" 62mm throat diameter would make all lenses 85+mm in diameter. Simply ridiculous. That's a MF size.
 
Philnw2 said:
captura said:
OlHeath said:
bwebmasta said:
I am waiting, my thought is even though an adapter to use my other lenses, most of them are DX not FX, so they won't be full-frame on a full frame camera. So, my staying in the same ecosystem for both wouldn't be an advantage.

My main concern, and waiting to see, will the Nikon FFM be comparable to the A7 III at the same or lower price point? Right now, looking for thoughts and feedback on the A7 III owners.

Thanks!
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The a7iii is a pretty spectacular camera. I can't imagine anyone not being very happy with it - it does everything, and does everything very well indeed. They are so good i grab mine in preference to my a7r3, which probably doesn't entirely make sense, but the AF is a little better, AF coverage is quite a bit better, and the noise performance is a little better, video is a little cleaner and sharper (FF).

For the price I find it very hard to believe Nikon's first attempt at FFM will equal the a7iii, let alone surpass it. But who knows...
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From to-days rumor news, it looks like Nikon's strong suite will be the 3 new lenses that will be offered. They have targeted exactly where Sony's weakness lies in FE lenses.
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It seems funny to me to say that Nikon's strong suite will be 3 lenses for their new mirrorless. I think there are now more than 45 native lenses for Sony FF, but i may be wrong on that. Sigma and Tamron are now both making native Sony e-mount lenses.

There will be adapters, i would bet, to get Nikon owners from F-mount to the new mirrorless Z mount. In the past Nikon owners have derided the use of such adapters. Not sure how well this will be received by current Nikon owners. Seems like we're getting ahead of ourselves as no actual FF mirrorless has yet to be reviewed.
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Then why even have a discussion?
 
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