Big Choice Made -- Lenses for 6 Weeks in Chile

Thanks Bill. You saved me! I just threw a pair of binoculars in the suitcase. When we get down there, we will check on night sky star tours. I'm sure there are guys with telescopes that will guide us on a tour of the galaxy for a fee. There are also many observatories in the Atacama, but I'm not sure about those.

I am going to use the Rok 12 and shoot those stars at ISO 3200, 25 seconds at F2 (I'll try 1600 at 20 seconds too -- check for any star trails). I think focus will be my challenge. I don't have time to buy one of those special filters that help you focus on the starts. I'm playing with that lens today (just got it). It seems to me that infinity on the lens really is all the way over, so I can just crank it all the way to the left....

Bill, if you have an app or some charts -- I will be in San Pedro de Atacama from 3 through 9 February. My cabin is outside of the small town and I should be able to walk out of the cabin and fire away. I have a rock solid RRS travel tripod. Will I have a moon? I hope I don't have to wait till 3 AM!
 
As an owner of the 16-55 lens for longer than you...and having read your ridicule (lasting literally years) of the lens for long enough pertaining to both its lack of OIS and its size/weight...and for having stated to you in a forum post that you can’t comment on a lens you have never tried, prompting you to purchase it...

It is now time to remove the name for it that you created as it is a negative connotation you attach to a lens that has ‘rocked’ your world.

YOU LOVE IT! And I smiled ear to ear every time you state how much you love it. Others that aren’t owners of the lens that search this forum will undoubtedly find your historical and unqualified past opinion of the lens and unfortunately impact their potential buying decision. When in reality it is one of the absolute lenses Fuji makes. Heck, the 50-140 is so much larger and heavier and no one, not even you, complains about it.

Can you please stop using your ‘B’ word for it? It actually is easier to type 16-55 than that word.

And, FWIW, I find you a terrific resource for everything photography and value your guidance and opinions very, very much...as many in this community do. Perhaps more than you really will ever know.

Anyhoo...have a great trip and a fantastic time! Be well, be safe and take tons of photos.

Cheers!

p.s. I am burying my little diatribe in this posting as I don’t think it is important to post the above on its own...and please excuse any potential feeling of disrespect. It is meant to provide as much support for the lens as possible because I think those that don’t choose to own it are really missing out.
Sorry, but that train left the station ages ago. The name “Brick” has gone well past Greg’s coining and usage and has now become common forum-speak. And to be honest, I see no issue with it. It’s not an inaccurate statement of its size and bulk, and it think its reputation as an fantastic lens transcends any negative connotation that that [rather amusing] nickname has.
Does it help lewiedude2, if you think of The Brick as a Cornerstone? 😉

So, bottom line, like the rest of us, you’ll have to learn to live with the nickname. I use it as well periodically, but in the short time I’ve owned it, like others, I think it will rapidly become one of my faves (with or without being called “the Brick”).

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Jerry-Astro
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Ok...fine! It is a fricken fantastic piece of glass and it is what it is.

Have fun!!

Anyone want to buy my 18-55? Never used on my trip as I got very good with video+16-55. It’s mint.
 
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Well Greg I only have the Brick and the 50-140, but feel they are both Fuji’s finest zooms and cover almost all my needs. As I have mentioned before, I think we are all envious of your travels. I may be relatively new to this forum, but always enjoy your input and photography! Greg B
 
Greg I agree with your choices. I am not into Astro photography so don't have/need a 12mm.

My travel kit used to be 10-24, 18-135; now it is 10-24, 16-55 and 50-140. Primarily because of IQ and constant f/2.8. The handling with grip is actually very good so I am ok with the added size/weight. I also don't mind the lack of OIS on the brick.

I used to add the 55-200 for wild life; now it is the 100-400 because 55-200, while a great lens is just not long enough. TC1.4 comes for a free ride now that I can use it for both 50-140 and 100-400.

I am mostly a zoom shooter even back in my Nikon days, the only Fuji prime I have is the 23mm f2 that came with my XPro2. it's a nice lens and make the Xpro2 a great looking camera (love that retro/Leica look) but I don't use the 23mm much.

Like you, if I am on a road trip by car, all the lenses and RRS tripod come along for the ride. You pick the tool for the activity of the day. Even if you don't pick the right lens for the day the zooms give you much more flexibility in my opinion.

On big trips I take both the XT2 and Xpro2 like my recent Antarctica trip.

Scott
 
Jerry's advice is spot on. get as much done as you can, while it's easy to see! :)

With a lens as wide as the Rok 12, though, you're going to have a pretty wide degree of latitude on acceptable focus, compared to what you're used to. if, for some reason, you can't get any work done ahead of time, though, just open that aperture as wide as it'll go, crank the ISO as high as it'll go, and point the camera at the brightest thing you can see in the sky. since you'll be in MF mode anyway, activate the magnifier, and adjust the live-view focus until the stars look as small as possible; this is usually really, really close, and is a method I've had to use in the past many times. one of the challenges of astro is that nothing goes right every time. :)

Like the others have already said, safe travels, and clear skies. I'll add one other - good health!
 
Hi Greg,

There's no right answer on lens kits. It just come down to what you like and the old adage that the best camera to have is the one you have with you...... The 16-55 and 50-140 would be a great kit without any third lens.

Noted that you're leaving the 16mm... Did you ever compare the 16 and 16-55? Obviously they're different lenses with different maximum apertures, but after all your exaltation of 16mm, did you run a side-by-side comparisons to see how they both perform through a range of common apertures (say f2.8, 4, 5.6, 8)?

Enjoy the trip

Cheers, Rod
 
Hi Greg,

There's no right answer on lens kits. It just come down to what you like and the old adage that the best camera to have is the one you have with you...... The 16-55 and 50-140 would be a great kit without any third lens.

Noted that you're leaving the 16mm... Did you ever compare the 16 and 16-55? Obviously they're different lenses with different maximum apertures, but after all your exaltation of 16mm, did you run a side-by-side comparisons to see how they both perform through a range of common apertures (say f2.8, 4, 5.6, 8)?

Enjoy the trip

Cheers, Rod
Rod, you know I love the Mighty 16, yet I fly to Chile tomorrow without it.

Yes, I have played around with comparisons between the Brick and 16 at 16, but very unscientifically, and not with a methdology that would survive the scrutiny of this board.

The 16 is unbeatable, but the Brick does 16 so well that I can't believe that anyone could pixel peep any difference at my walking shooting daytime apertures, meaning 8, 11 etc.

Wide open? I don't know really. Seems very close, even on the edges.

The 16 is so fast with flawless IQ and so close focusing..... It is still the Mighty 16.

But the Brick is my thing right now. I can't get it off the camera except to put on the 80 for macro or the 50-140 for everything else. No... I'm not taking the 80 to Chile. But I'm taking the 10-24. I bet I grab a prime as I walk out the door....

Naaaah..... I'm zooming this trip.....

Do you know I have taken long hikes with nothing but primes? And I mean like 6 of them....

Not this trip though.....
 
... soon you will get to where I am for travel - one camera and maximum two lenses. :-)

Enjoy the trip!
 
Have a fantastic trip.
I went to many of the places you listed in 2016 and took much a similar setup: XT1, 14mm, 16-55 and 50-140 with 1.4TC.
The only change I would have made in hindsight is taking the 10-24 instead of 14mm. The 16-55 is truly a beast both in terms of size and image quality.
 
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Greg - Enjoy your adventure and help others to live vicariously through the experience by sharing your photos! Whatever lenses you choose to bring, trust that you'll apply the creativity in any situation to find and make a great composition. It's all there, in you.

The Atacama's climate delivers the highest number of clear photometric nights for observing, annually, in the world. The laminar airflow coming off the Pacific delivers routinely excellent seeing (atmospheric steadiness). The skies are as dark as dark gets - as dark as you'll find in remote areas of Arizona and other parts of the Desert Southwest US.

Being far south of the equator, you'll be treated to constellations and sights that just aren't visible from the lower 48. Are you bringing a pair of travel binoculars? Even a 10x25 mini-binocular will reveal treasures not visible to the naked eye. Omega Centauri will blow your mind. The Small Magellanic Cloud (a satellite galaxy of the Milky Way) should be a wonderful naked eye sight. The Large Magellanic Cloud (another satellite galaxy) may set before the sky gets dark enough to observe, this time of year. If you have the opportunity to get a guided tour of the night sky that includes telescope viewing, jump on it!

In any event, I wish you clear skies and a great journey.
 
On the way out the door. I stopped, reached in my closet, grabbed the Mighty 16 and its CP and ND filters, and threw it in my wife's big travel purse. After a week of restricting myself I added it at the last second.....
 
On the way out the door. I stopped, reached in my closet, grabbed the Mighty 16 and its CP and ND filters, and threw it in my wife's big travel purse. After a week of restricting myself I added it at the last second.....
Ah. That's your secret: your wife won't notice the tiny extra bit of weight in her purse that is the "Might 16" and a few filters. :D
 

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