Hand grip

Joey Valencia · Sep 9, 2003

yup...i if i do get the 300D, for sure i would have to go with the BG-E1 too in the absence of a better handling grip. but if canon releases an AA-grip... i would surely ditch the BG-E1. it looks more like a camera dock to me than as a vertical grip - it has that squared look rather than the sexy one i like with my BP-200.

fhoubi said:
I have an EOS 300 + BP-200, to hold the camera mainly with one hand
without dangling 1 or 2 fingers under it is a joy. The grip for the
300D seems really to bulky. But I would not buy the 300D without
one.

Ulysses · Sep 9, 2003

Travis said:
Hey! I didn't say ANYTHING about getting the handstrap! LOL.
Don't think I know how to hold a camera with a battery pack?
(shrug) Okay, so why do I need the handstrap and how much does IT
cost? ;-)

Heheh... it never ends, does it?

Travis said:
Actually, I was planning on buying it just to be "cool". I thought
that's the real reason you convinced me to get one?

Oh, well in that case...

Travis said:
Okay, in all honesty, I really do want one. I assume the handstrap
is no substitute for a neck strap though, right? I mean, if it
slipped out of my hand and dropped to the ground! (sigh) What is
the usual configuration when using the battery grip? Hold it with
the handstrap and nothing to secure it around your neck?

Uh-oh... too many questions. I haven't thought that far ahead!

Actually, I'm more of a neckstrap guy myself for the security.

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Ulysses

Ulysses · Sep 9, 2003

Personally, I like chunky grips. I'm not so interested in how it looks (hey, I'm a Sony F-series man, so looks aren't the big deal for me). If it gives more stability and power, then more power to the BG-E1 !

Joey Valencia said:
yup...i if i do get the 300D, for sure i would have to go with the
BG-E1 too in the absence of a better handling grip. but if canon
releases an AA-grip... i would surely ditch the BG-E1. it looks
more like a camera dock to me than as a vertical grip - it has that
squared look rather than the sexy one i like with my BP-200.

--

Ulysses

Joey Valencia · Sep 9, 2003

although we differ on that view, my hats up to you, mr. gripmeister for the excellent grip shots. been looking for them (BG-E1 pix) on the web for some time with not much success!

Ulysses said:
Personally, I like chunky grips. I'm not so interested in how it
looks (hey, I'm a Sony F-series man, so looks aren't the big deal
for me). If it gives more stability and power, then more power to
the BG-E1 !

Ulysses

Travis · Sep 9, 2003

Member said:
Uh-oh... too many questions. I haven't thought that far ahead!

Actually, I'm more of a neckstrap guy myself for the security.

So with the battery grip attached, do you still use the same neck strap that comes with the camera, or does that no longer fit? And can you have both the neck strap AND the hand strap attached at once? I can imagine using the hand strap for a better hold/grip on the camera, but still wanting the security of the neck strap (as you mentioned).

Travis

dJason · Sep 9, 2003

I'm interested in how this will work for me...I'm left-handed and have some difficulty using some camera controls (including shutter release) with my right hand, but I think the location of the buttons on the grip will work out well for me....come on and stock them already!

Joey Valencia said:
although we differ on that view, my hats up to you, mr. gripmeister
for the excellent grip shots. been looking for them (BG-E1 pix) on
the web for some time with not much success!

Ulysses said:

Personally, I like chunky grips. I'm not so interested in how it
looks (hey, I'm a Sony F-series man, so looks aren't the big deal
for me). If it gives more stability and power, then more power to
the BG-E1 !

Ulysses

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Spiky · Sep 9, 2003

Ulysses said:
Hmm... I haven't seen one like that yet.

But at the same time, I would submit that location of the tripod
thread isn't critical. I wouldn't anticipate doing panoramics while
the grip is on. I would just detach the camera and place it on the
tripod as usual.

Interesting. Is there another reason that you'd want to know about
the location of the tripod thread?

Just that and weight balancing. My old A1 was always a pain with certain tripod use since it had bizarre placement depending on the accessories, etc.

Not that this comes up much for me anyway. Since I'm basically set on this camera (unless the 10D drops a bit in price), this certainly wouldn't affect me in the slightest.

Spiky · Sep 9, 2003

Travis said:
Travis said:

Uh-oh... too many questions. I haven't thought that far ahead!

Actually, I'm more of a neckstrap guy myself for the security.

Click to expand...

So with the battery grip attached, do you still use the same neck
strap that comes with the camera, or does that no longer fit? And
can you have both the neck strap AND the hand strap attached at
once? I can imagine using the hand strap for a better hold/grip on
the camera, but still wanting the security of the neck strap (as
you mentioned).

Travis

The neck strap attaches to the top of the camera, so the BG won't affect it in the slightest. I think both can be attached at once, it just depends on how thick the straps are since they both use the same hook on the camera. So it may depend on which neck strap you use.

Travis · Sep 9, 2003

Spiky said:
Travis said:

Spiky said:

Uh-oh... too many questions. I haven't thought that far ahead!

Actually, I'm more of a neckstrap guy myself for the security.

Click to expand...

So with the battery grip attached, do you still use the same neck
strap that comes with the camera, or does that no longer fit? And
can you have both the neck strap AND the hand strap attached at
once? I can imagine using the hand strap for a better hold/grip on
the camera, but still wanting the security of the neck strap (as
you mentioned).

Travis

Click to expand...

The neck strap attaches to the top of the camera, so the BG won't
affect it in the slightest. I think both can be attached at once,
it just depends on how thick the straps are since they both use the
same hook on the camera. So it may depend on which neck strap you
use.

Karl C · Sep 9, 2003

These guys from canon really look funny.

I know Japanese people or friendly in general but I guess these men are already thinking of the massive sales of the 300D (grip included) and the comparable grow of their bank accounts.

Which is fine with me because, as I can't buy the camera yet, I bought some Canon stock instead !!
So let these sales hit records highs ...

Karl
[ http://www.pbase.com/karlc/]

SoCalPhotog · Sep 9, 2003

Travis said:
Over $100 for an item that just lets you hold two batteries at
once? Or does it do something else too? ;-) I'm not sure I'd be
willing to pay THAT much just for the convenience of not having to
switch a battery... guess I'm missing something (I understand it
also has a shutter release, right?).

Travis

SoCalPhotog · Sep 9, 2003

Travis said:
Over $100 for an item that just lets you hold two batteries at
once? Or does it do something else too? ;-) I'm not sure I'd be
willing to pay THAT much just for the convenience of not having to
switch a battery... guess I'm missing something (I understand it
also has a shutter release, right?).

Travis

Travis · Sep 10, 2003

I can't remember if this was already answered or not, but I just couldn't let this thread (the only one soley about the hand grip, I might add) die!

How do you charge the batteries? If I recall, the Digital Rebel comes with an external battery charger, right? Does it also have the ability to charge the battery while it is in the camera (like the Canon G2 that I have)? If so, then will it work while the batteries are in the grip attached to the camera?

And if not (meaning you DO have the remove the battery to charge it), will this erase the memory that allows you to turn on the camera with the same settings as when you turned it off? Or does the smaller watch battery take care of this as well as the time/date?

Thanks a bunch,
Travis

padeye99656 · Sep 10, 2003

All the settings and the clock are maintained by a CR2016 Lithum button battery. You must remove the Li-Ion battery to charge it.

Travis said:
I can't remember if this was already answered or not, but I just
couldn't let this thread (the only one soley about the hand grip, I
might add) die!

How do you charge the batteries? If I recall, the Digital Rebel
comes with an external battery charger, right? Does it also have
the ability to charge the battery while it is in the camera (like
the Canon G2 that I have)? If so, then will it work while the
batteries are in the grip attached to the camera?

And if not (meaning you DO have the remove the battery to charge
it), will this erase the memory that allows you to turn on the
camera with the same settings as when you turned it off? Or does
the smaller watch battery take care of this as well as the
time/date?

Thanks a bunch,
Travis

LukeRobinson_UK · Sep 19, 2003

I wanted to weigh in on this topic back when I first read it, unfortunately I was unable to successfully register at the time. So, better late than never, and I suppose this is a bit of a bump.

This will be my 3rd SLR, 1st D-SLR. My previous ones have been a Rebel G and an Elan IIe (50e in Europe). I ended up putting grips on both of them.

I put a tripod grip (GR-80TP) on the Rebel G. This grip came in quite handy on long backpacking trips when it would have been impractical to carry around a proper tripod. Most of all it gave the camera a bit of extra weight and (very important) added on a handstrap which made it MUCH easier to walk around with the camera without worrying about droppage. I also got used to having somewhere for my pinky finger to go. I know it sounds silly but I feel better with an SLR if it provides a solid grip for my whole hand.

Later on when I moved up to the Elan, a battery/portrait grip (BP-300) was a no-brainer, and it gave a bit of balance once I started sticking some heavier glass on the front. I got very used to being able to shoot in portrait mode without contorting myself as well. Unfortunately a couple of years ago my entire Elan kit together with some rather tasty lenses was burgled from a new flat for which I hadn't sorted out contents insurance; hence I am now back on the Rebel G.

Now the time has come, my 300d is on order and I lept at the chance to get the BG-E1 in a bundle. I couldn't imagine having an SLR without a proper grip on it. Between the ergonomics, the lens-balancing issues, the potential addition of a hand-strap (worth its weight in gold), the extra battery life and the added vertical controls, well, as the man says, "you had me at hello." The trade-off in weight is barely a factor for me.

Now if only the d*mned things would start shipping in the UK...

Matt Rupert said:
Anyone know anything about the hand grip for the 300D? Is it the
same one used for the 10D?

Ulysses · Sep 19, 2003

Sounds like a positive vote to me!

Thanks for weighing in on this one.

LukeRobinson_UK said:
Now the time has come, my 300d is on order and I lept at the chance
to get the BG-E1 in a bundle. I couldn't imagine having an SLR
without a proper grip on it. Between the ergonomics, the
lens-balancing issues, the potential addition of a hand-strap
(worth its weight in gold), the extra battery life and the added
vertical controls, well, as the man says, "you had me at hello."
The trade-off in weight is barely a factor for me.

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Ulysses

Diane B · Sep 19, 2003

Ulysses said:
Bob Dolson said:

And then they have the nerve to charge extra for the HAND STRAP!
No thanks, if I do get a DR it'll be without that portrait grip!

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Heheh... I totally overlooked the handstrap. Gimme one of those,
too!

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Ulysses

LOL. I have the grip on my D60. I love it--for me, it feels much more balanced with my large lenses on and, with the hand strap, I rarely carry the camera any other way. I use an Optec neck strap but it allows you to unhook the main part of it and hook 2 short pieces together to make a very short strap. Sometimes I sling the camera across my chest/shoulder with my hand in the strap/on the grip. I had a grip on my OLy E10 and ordered a grip with the D60 and its never been off in over 18 mos. I do use the portrait buttons but the real + for me is the balance.

Now, that being said, I bought a used D30 this Spring and use it without a grip. I like this with the lighter lenses--and even the 28-135IS. I think it will depend upon what lenses you end up with--the way you like to carry your camera and what it feels like in your hand. Having used the OlyE10 for a good while before buying the D60--I really liked that solid, heavier feel for shooting. Others will hate it LOL.

Just my 2 cents--for what its worth LOL.

Diane
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Diane B
http://www.pbase.com/picnic/galleries
B/W lover, but color is seducing me

LukeRobinson_UK · Sep 19, 2003

Cheers Ulysses.

Just as an aside I forgot to mention that I've also got a 550EX I'm going to stick on the top, and not having a grip to counterbalance that would result in some interesting muscle aches.

I've a feeling though at the moment that between the grip, 550EX and some chunky lenses the actual camera body is going to end up looking a bit twee.

Ulysses said:
Thanks for weighing in on this one.

LukeRobinson_UK said:

Now the time has come, my 300d is on order and I lept at the chance
to get the BG-E1 in a bundle. I couldn't imagine having an SLR
without a proper grip on it. Between the ergonomics, the
lens-balancing issues, the potential addition of a hand-strap
(worth its weight in gold), the extra battery life and the added
vertical controls, well, as the man says, "you had me at hello."
The trade-off in weight is barely a factor for me.

Click to expand...

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Ulysses

Travis · Sep 19, 2003

I love it when this thread gets surface time and time again!

Must make Ulysses VERY happy! ;=)

Anyway, thanks for you comments... I'll probably be getting one. Though no one seems to have them in stock yet? I thought they were supposed to be available when the camera was released? !!!!

Travis

Mark Marshall · Sep 19, 2003

Absolutely - unfortunately delivery dates are still not set. Adorama went ahead and shipped the E1 strap w/ the grip on "backorder". Guess I can wear it as a thong while I'm waiting. - m²

"Hey - this grip smells funky"

Ulysses said:
Thanks for weighing in on this one.

LukeRobinson_UK said:

Now the time has come, my 300d is on order and I lept at the chance
to get the BG-E1 in a bundle. I couldn't imagine having an SLR
without a proper grip on it. Between the ergonomics, the
lens-balancing issues, the potential addition of a hand-strap
(worth its weight in gold), the extra battery life and the added
vertical controls, well, as the man says, "you had me at hello."
The trade-off in weight is barely a factor for me.

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