What's going on with X-T20 updates?

Jerry Pruce

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The X-T20 seems to be given second class status in the X camera line. One wimpy update and no access to the new X Raw Studio. Still no tethering options. I love my X-T20 but don't understand why it has been left behind as for as adding features......
 
Hope it's to do with marketing and the other improvements will follow early next year.
 
one can certainly hope. I'd love to see it at least get feature parity with the X-E3, since the hardware is so similar. Heck, just the long exposure modes would be awesome.
 
I'm not saying you won't get the updates some time but even in this "entitlement age," I'm surprised, that you are surprised, when you don't get the same treatment as for bodies which cost twice as much.

I think Fuji do supply firmware where they can for all their cameras - you certainly won't find another manufacturer doing better in the firmware stakes.

Vic
 
I thought it was pretty clear that it is second class? (though I don't really care for that exact terminology) Of course they're going to prioritize their flagship camera models with updates to entice more of the pro market.
 
I thought it was pretty clear that it is second class? (though I don't really care for that exact terminology) Of course they're going to prioritize their flagship camera models with updates to entice more of the pro market.
To add to that - unless they use all the same components in all models, the hardware to support certain feature sets is often the cause of the limitations in firmware feature upgrades. Pretty much the only way to make a similar model of another camera less expensive is to use less expensive chipsets and such (and maybe even less of them, to allow a smaller form factor).

Disappointment is understood, but one shouldn't be surprised when this occurs between different tiers of similar cameras.

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I do not disagree with updates/parity with higher class cameras like the X-T2. I'm just really hoping for parity with the X-E3..which IS the same class. I'd be surprised if X-E3 hardware was different enough to prevent enabling these features on the X-T20. I can certainly understand prioritizing the X-T2.

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but one shouldn't be surprised when this occurs between different tiers of similar cameras.
But it's not even about cameras. It's just freaking software and Fuji's will to support T20/E3 or not. They decided not to. And I find no logical explanation for this.
 
The X-T20 seems to be given second class status in the X camera line. One wimpy update and no access to the new X Raw Studio. Still no tethering options. I love my X-T20 but don't understand why it has been left behind as for as adding features......
The X-T20 and it's sibling, the X-E3 are Fuji's middle of the road models and considering that they cost half as much as Fuji's flagship models, you can't expect to see every feature released for the X-T2 and X-Pro2 to show up in the X-T20.
 
The X-T20 and it's sibling, the X-E3 are Fuji's middle of the road models and considering that they cost half as much as Fuji's flagship models, you can't expect to see every feature released for the X-T2 and X-Pro2 to show up in the X-T20.
If T20 and E3 excluded from fuji's software support - it's not "every feature". It's excluding cameras from basic support. You can't excuse every Fuji's fail with non-flagship cameras with "you can't expect".
 
The X-T20 and it's sibling, the X-E3 are Fuji's middle of the road models and considering that they cost half as much as Fuji's flagship models, you can't expect to see every feature released for the X-T2 and X-Pro2 to show up in the X-T20.
If T20 and E3 excluded from fuji's software support - it's not "every feature". It's excluding cameras from basic support. You can't excuse every Fuji's fail with non-flagship cameras with "you can't expect".
what do you call 'basic.?
 
The X-T20 and it's sibling, the X-E3 are Fuji's middle of the road models and considering that they cost half as much as Fuji's flagship models, you can't expect to see every feature released for the X-T2 and X-Pro2 to show up in the X-T20.
If T20 and E3 excluded from fuji's software support - it's not "every feature". It's excluding cameras from basic support. You can't excuse every Fuji's fail with non-flagship cameras with "you can't expect".
what do you call 'basic.?
I just updated the firmware in my xt20 and was hoping something would be done with the metering; I find if I meter on a highlight, the rest of the image can go very dark or if I meter on a darker area, the rest of the image can get blown out which didn't happen with the xe1, xt10. Shooting in AP isn't possible in some situations so I'm forced to use manual which I don't mind doing, but it's perplexing how the metering severely overcompensates during the process of metering the high and low lights.
 
The X-T20 seems to be given second class status in the X camera line. One wimpy update and no access to the new X Raw Studio. Still no tethering options. I love my X-T20 but don't understand why it has been left behind as for as adding features......
There may not actually be enough internal memory to support a newer/larger firmware update for all the features on offer.
 
I do not disagree with updates/parity with higher class cameras like the X-T2. I'm just really hoping for parity with the X-E3..which IS the same class. I'd be surprised if X-E3 hardware was different enough to prevent enabling these features on the X-T20. I can certainly understand prioritizing the X-T2.
Exactly, for me its not about parity with the XT2, but with the X-E3. The X-T20 and X-E3 are still available at the exact same retail price (at least in my country).
 
what do you call 'basic.?
Original vendor's raw processing software. Not that Silky thing. No one else is limiting cameras with software raw processing, only Fuji managed to do that.
There may not actually be enough internal memory to support a newer/larger firmware update for all the features on offer.
Someone started BS rumor, and everyone still repeat it.

T2 has same 51 Mb firmware file as T20. T20 can process raw files pretty well and fast, anyone can try it. T20 has buffer for 23 uncompressed RAWs (27 for T2). So , there's absolutely no such thing as "not enough memory".
 
The X-T20 and it's sibling, the X-E3 are Fuji's middle of the road models and considering that they cost half as much as Fuji's flagship models, you can't expect to see every feature released for the X-T2 and X-Pro2 to show up in the X-T20.
If T20 and E3 excluded from fuji's software support - it's not "every feature". It's excluding cameras from basic support. You can't excuse every Fuji's fail with non-flagship cameras with "you can't expect".
what do you call 'basic.?
I just updated the firmware in my xt20 and was hoping something would be done with the metering; I find if I meter on a highlight, the rest of the image can go very dark or if I meter on a darker area, the rest of the image can get blown out which didn't happen with the xe1, xt10. Shooting in AP isn't possible in some situations so I'm forced to use manual which I don't mind doing, but it's perplexing how the metering severely overcompensates during the process of metering the high and low lights.
I assume your camera is not switched to spot metering? Others (certainly me) don't have this problem. Either your camera is defective or it's set up wrong. Easier if you include a jpg with this problem with full exif info.

Best begin another thread though, I'm sure you'll get it sorted then.

Vic
 
what do you call 'basic.?
Original vendor's raw processing software. Not that Silky thing. No one else is limiting cameras with software raw processing, only Fuji managed to do that.
Your moving the goalposts by now implying the camera maker should also be the software maker.

Can you prove all other brands develop their supplied software completely in-house? IIRC Leica at one point included a Lightroom license. Being Leica they could of course easily hide that in the price, and they also did not have to worry about customers who flutter from Olympus and Panasonci to whatever via Fuji.

It is also up to you to show how Fuji is limiting cameras
 
Your moving the goalposts by now implying the camera maker should also be the software maker.

Can you prove all other brands develop their supplied software completely in-house? IIRC Leica at one point included a Lightroom license. Being Leica they could of course easily hide that in the price, and they also did not have to worry about customers who flutter from Olympus and Panasonci to whatever via Fuji.

It is also up to you to show how Fuji is limiting cameras
Yes, I think that they have to make original software, just like XRS and support all their cameras with it. In this way user will be able to easily convert raw files to jpegs (at least) keeping in-camera settings and color. That's the required minimum. That's what Canon does, that's what Olympus does. And I don't understand why Nikon dropped their Capture NX2.

All this makes more sense than just saying "we only make cameras, if you want to process raw - it's your own problem".
 
The X-T20 seems to be given second class status in the X camera line. One wimpy update and no access to the new X Raw Studio. Still no tethering options. I love my X-T20 but don't understand why it has been left behind as for as adding features......
There may not actually be enough internal memory to support a newer/larger firmware update for all the features on offer.
there was rumours from a while back that the memory wasn’t large enough for the new AF algorithm.
 
Exactly, I don’t expect an XT2, just parity with XE3. The new AF being my biggest want.
 

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