Super Zoom Test #1 Nikon 200-500mm. More advice please.

When photographing perched/feeding birds, you should be able to use a slower shutter speed than 1/1000. I recommend you start at 1/500 and work your way down the list with slower and slower shutter speeds. When you get to 1/100 and slower, focus on painting the bird's head with the active AF point and track the bird's movements. At really slow shutter speeds, there may be some motion blur in the body and wings, but if the head and eyes are sharp, you will capture some really interesting shots.

At 1/500 and slower, I recommend shooting with VR switched to ON. If you're shooting, handheld while standing, the Normal mode really steadies the image in the viewfinder. Of course, you have the option to lean against something for greater support or to shoot handheld from a seated position. This might be on a collapsible stool, or on your bottom with your back against something and knees tucked up. Being seated will get you away from a standing position (any opportunity to not be standing gives you an opportunity to shoot from a more interesting angle.) and provides a platform for supporting the weight of the camera and lens. You might also consider using a monopod. VR can still be active but you may want to use the Sport mode, which is better-suited to erratically moving subjects and produces less image shift between shutter actuations.

I recommend single-point AF for perched birds, static and slower moving subjects. Paint the eye/head with that active AF point. 9-point AF works well for birds in flight, erratic and faster subjects. At least, this has been my experience with the Multi-CAM 4800 FX module in the D610. The Advanced Multi-CAM 3500 DXII module in the D7200 may have a different performance profile...it's always good to experiment with these things to determine where the sweet spots in performance are, depending on your subject.

Another setting to experiment with is A3 Focus Tracking with Lock-on. This determines how tenaciously your camera's AF will stick with a subject once it's acquired focus. There are settings from 1 to 5, with 1 forcing the AF system to re-acquire focus at any hint of losing lock on a subject and 5 forcing the AF system to ignore loss of lock for 2-3 seconds before attempt to re-acquire. I tend to keep my A3 set to the default 3 position and will pulse my back-button focus. Releasing pressure on the focus button immediately resets the system so, when you again apply pressure, the AF module will reacquire.

It's been a useful technique with my D610. That said, your camera's AF module may do a better job of continuously tracking or reacquiring, as needed.

Good luck and have fun.
 
If you get the slide or the slide light they come with a small Arca-Swiss plate with openings in the corner. My 200-500 has a Kirk Foot and I can put the tabs on the PD plate and mount it to the tripod socket at the rear of the kirk plate..

The slide light is similar but with a narrower strap.

The slide light is similar but with a narrower strap.

If you get the smaller leash, there is a tripod socket anchor mount that come with it that would likely work but I would like a larger strap for a heavy lens.

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You can actually buy the AS plate and anchor mount independently as you can the anchor cords. To give an idea of the size of the anchor mount, here it is on a Nikon V2.

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Another option for attaching the Peak Design Slide to your camera/200-500, is attaching one end to a mounting plate on the camera and the other to a plate on the foot of your zoom lens:



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I like this setup for BIF photography, where I prefer to shoot handheld. I rotate lens foot so it extends over the top of the lens. This makes it more comfortable and stable to use my hand to support the lens from beneath.

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I actually put it on a monopod sometimes with the strap attached to the lens foot. As long as you use one of the holes in the corner nearest you it works fine. But true, you could attach both to the same connector - the versatility with the system is one of the things I like about it.
 
I do the same thing with the lens foot, except it's probably at about 10 o'clock instead of right on top. It makes it into a great handle for the camera also.
 
Ok, understand, you attach them to the lens foot. I thought you had found a way to attach them to the lens itself. I couldn’t figure out how that would be possible!

I also have the Kirk foot with it’s built in Arca dovetail. I then use an Acratech Swift Clamp to lock it to the foot’s dovetail.

Acratech Swift Clamp.
Acratech Swift Clamp.
this looks like a good idea but my issue is that i use mu canon 1D bodies (1Dx and 1dmk4) and they are more heavy than brick! so i am not sure this contraption will be strong enough to deal with my cameras! i have black rapid sport strap but didn't work with my cameras! i purchased cottoncarrier vest and strap but too awkward with my setup. so i have given up and just hand-carry my cameras/lenses!
 
My first thoughts were this lens is HEAVY. I was expecting the weight, but when you put it around your neck and start walking around, it caught me off guard.
I) You must attach a strap to the foot of the lens and NOT the camera body - black rapids and the like that run over your shoulder and across the body are the most comfortable.

2) f/5.6, is not the sharpest aperture for this lense - I would come down to f/6.1 or f/7 to secure sharper result - light permitting - this also gives you larger depth of focus.

3) shooting birds, particularly in the wind, requires a higher shutter speed; so does shooting with long lenses -- I tend to use a target shutter speed of 1/3-4 times effective focal length. so faster than your shots.

4) Turn VR off when shooting at high shutter speed (faster than 1/320th) - if your camera has an auto-iso adjustment slider try moving it to the right

5) It is not clear to my why if you were using auto-iso you were getting over exposed images -- are all your settings set to 1/3rds ISO/APerture etc. I would NOT set a maximum ISO limit while you are practicing - I would try other settings to ensure you understand how they work.




I set my camera to auto ISO (as I read was a good idea). I selected a minimum ISO of 100 and a max at 2500. I left the aperture at 5.6 and set the shutter speed at 1/1000 for the first shots. I had matrix metering and AF-C selected. My first set was slightly over exposed so I set the shutter to 1/12500. The lens was set to M/A, Full, VR ON, and Normal. All of the images were taken at 500mm for this test.

I got a few shots (out of about 30) that were OK. I selected a few of the better shots. Who would have thought taking a picture of a little bird would be this difficult. I got more shots of feathery butts that I care to mention here. :-D

My first time out, I'm feeling OK with my test. I need to work on the weight of the lens for walking in the woods and focus points. I still had some softness in the pictures I want to address as well. Any help and advice to move forward would be appreciated.


Black capped Chickadee.


Chickadee and friend.


A mouthful.
 
Ok, last week I was looking for some advice regarding wildlife tips for the Nikon D7200 and the Nikon 200-500mm. I picked up the lens yesterday and finally had a chance to play with the new lens today.

My first thoughts were this lens is HEAVY. I was expecting the weight, but when you put it around your neck and start walking around, it caught me off guard. So with that in mind, I scampered off to the back yard to snap a few shots. I was loosing daylight and by the time I made it outside, the sun had moved behind some trees and what little leaves there were, still were a concern.

I set my camera to auto ISO (as I read was a good idea). I selected a minimum ISO of 100 and a max at 2500. I left the aperture at 5.6 and set the shutter speed at 1/1000 for the first shots. I had matrix metering and AF-C selected. My first set was slightly over exposed so I set the shutter to 1/12500. The lens was set to M/A, Full, VR ON, and Normal. All of the images were taken at 500mm for this test.

I got a few shots (out of about 30) that were OK. I selected a few of the better shots. Who would have thought taking a picture of a little bird would be this difficult. I got more shots of feathery butts that I care to mention here. :-D

My first time out, I'm feeling OK with my test. I need to work on the weight of the lens for walking in the woods and focus points. I still had some softness in the pictures I want to address as well. Any help and advice to move forward would be appreciated.


Black capped Chickadee.


Chickadee and friend.


A mouthful.
Obie,



I have had that lens on my D7200 for about 4 months now. I had similar issues with the soft images to begin with. From my experience, f5.6 is not an ideal aperture to use for that lens. I usually bump it to 7.1 or 8, for me that produces sharper images. I also usually live in Aperture priority and boost ISO if my shutter speed is too low. I usually use spot metering also. Check out the Vanguard Alta Pro tripod too. It is pretty damn solid for under $150 with the ballhead included. Its my first tripod and I know I will need an upgrade eventually but for now...awesome so far.



Anyway, try closing the aperture a little to find the sweet spot. You have already figured that out, I figured I would chime in because I have the exact same set up.
 
Thanks for the response. I've been experimenting with a variety of settings. It's still a little trial and error as of now. I get some images that I'm pleased with, but I still need to just get outside and take pictures. The more I practice, the better I get.

Regards,

Ron O.
 
Ok, last week I was looking for some advice regarding wildlife tips for the Nikon D7200 and the Nikon 200-500mm. I picked up the lens yesterday and finally had a chance to play with the new lens today.

My first thoughts were this lens is HEAVY. I was expecting the weight, but when you put it around your neck and start walking around, it caught me off guard. So with that in mind, I scampered off to the back yard to snap a few shots. I was loosing daylight and by the time I made it outside, the sun had moved behind some trees and what little leaves there were, still were a concern.

I set my camera to auto ISO (as I read was a good idea). I selected a minimum ISO of 100 and a max at 2500. I left the aperture at 5.6 and set the shutter speed at 1/1000 for the first shots. I had matrix metering and AF-C selected. My first set was slightly over exposed so I set the shutter to 1/12500. The lens was set to M/A, Full, VR ON, and Normal. All of the images were taken at 500mm for this test.

I got a few shots (out of about 30) that were OK. I selected a few of the better shots. Who would have thought taking a picture of a little bird would be this difficult. I got more shots of feathery butts that I care to mention here. :-D

My first time out, I'm feeling OK with my test. I need to work on the weight of the lens for walking in the woods and focus points. I still had some softness in the pictures I want to address as well. Any help and advice to move forward would be appreciated.
Try using a sling strap so the camera doesn't hang from your neck.
 
Single point AF as Bill Ferris said, is what I find is best, and placing the point on the head of the bird, or the eye.

Many of us use “back button AF” which allows our thumb to activate the AF. Mine has Group on the back button AF activation and the Preview button on the front for Single Point. Easy to go between the two modes. GRP for birds in flight, Single for stationary.

Also, a monopod can be an excellent way to steady those shots, with VR still on as at 500mm you will get some movement on the monopod.

Dave
 
Ok, understand, you attach them to the lens foot. I thought you had found a way to attach them to the lens itself. I couldn’t figure out how that would be possible!

I also have the Kirk foot with it’s built in Arca dovetail. I then use an Acratech Swift Clamp to lock it to the foot’s dovetail.

Acratech Swift Clamp.
Acratech Swift Clamp.
SInce this has reopended, It looks like your kirk plate is similar to mine and has a slot where the peak tab (or 2) can be attached. I use one on the plate and one on the body strap hole.



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FWIW, after endless back-and-forth between the Black Rapid and Peak Design, I've settled on the Peak Design (plus the BR lug). I put a 4.5 inch arca plate on the lens foot. The plate is also tapped so that I can screw the BR lug into it. This set up allow me to put the lens on a tripod without removing anything.



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I always used back button focus. It was the first button I re-assigned when I purchased my D7200. I also use single focus points with AF-C focusing with this lens.

I've also been experimenting with Auto ISO. This is something new for me and to be honest, I'm still experimenting with the max ISO setting. In my last outing with this lens, I dropped the ISO range to shoot between 100 and 1600.

The picture below was taken on a cold, sunny afternoon. Single AF-C focusing and I was in aperture priority set at f5.6, and shutter speed was 1/250. I shot off about 20 pictures of this little bird and I ended up with a few decent pictures that I was pleased with. The other pictures I discarded because of composition was off, the subject moved, or my focus point was not where I wanted it. I believe that I'm getting better with this lens, it's just going to take time and practice.

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As far as the strap, I use an Upstrap Pro Camera Sling. Its a typical camera strap that attaches to the camera's anchor points. I have the strap long so that I can carry my camera over my shoulder and my camera rests on my hip. This works well for me since I will often detach the quick release plate and carry my tripod under my arm or over my other shoulder.

As for now, I'm excited to learn how to use this lens and perfect my skills further. I look forward to sharing my experiences and to hear what the community has to offer.

Regards,

Ron O.
 
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