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About the composition, I Agree.

At that time, there was this 'equivalence' thing on my mind and I wanted to give even playground for both cameras & so I tried getting the focal length, aperture and speed in Fuji, as close as possible to S7, and allowed Fuji's ISO to take care of itself !

I was also surprised by the high ISO on XE2, but then I realised that the camera attained a high ISO because the ISO required on an APSC sensor = Square of the (CF) * ISO for the Smartphone sensor.
 
My original post regarding composition was totally in jest. I appreciate that your focus was on comparisons.

Besides, my own deficiency with composition is the only thing that has kept all my images from being 5 stars.
 
madhav56 said:
About the composition, I Agree.

At that time, there was this 'equivalence' thing on my mind and I wanted to give even playground for both cameras & so I tried getting the focal length, aperture and speed in Fuji, as close as possible to S7, and allowed Fuji's ISO to take care of itself !

I was also surprised by the high ISO on XE2, but then I realised that the camera attained a high ISO because the ISO required on an APSC sensor = Square of the (CF) * ISO for the Smartphone sensor.
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That then, would become a fight between David & Goliath !

But considering the physical limitations of the smartphone camera, it has come a long way in IQ. The camera is helping the sales of the Smartphones ! This time at MWC, Barcelona, I was surprised to find Kodak launching a Smartphone (Kodak Ektra), claiming that it's camera has great features !

--Madhav Bodas
 
To each his own, if a cellphone offers you enough flexibility and convenience, that's fine. I personally find pictures taken by my iPhone, even in HDR mode, cannot compare to a picture taken by my Olympus OMD or Canon 5DII cameras. The best iPhone pictures I've got were like 5 Megapixel, as a regular camera offers me at least 14, 15 and up megapixels. In Photoshop once I enlarge an iPhone picture on the PC monitor, I immediately notice the differences. It's OK if one prints postcard sized pictures, I'd say.
 
I think cell phones are ok if you can accept their limitations. What I dislike the most about them is handing over so much control to a device, and the software creating a look that is meant to be pleasing. To me it’s not, it’s very predictable and formulaic.

i shoot DSLR and mirrorless. I don’t mind carrying either and would substitute the carrying of more gear over my cell phone any day. not only will I get more satisfaction , I will get better Images. Cell phones demotivate me, the quick and easy convenience is quickly lost in the less engaging process of taking an image. Most would agree that it’s a lot about the person behind the camera, will cell phones it’s the cell phone that makes most of the decisions. This for me lessons the value of imagery.
 
Kung Fu said:
Because to me the importance of a photo is to communicate something to me, a feeling, a 'decisive moment', a new perspective... not lens sharpness, noise, depth of field, how many stops of "DR" it has, etc.
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Cell phone cannot replicate a perspective the way an advanced photographer visualizes the image due to its shortcoming and including lack of flexibilities. Smartphone has improved but still they are a tool that still in the way of photographer who seeks equipment transparency in the chain.

If the purpose is to point, frame and shot cell phones excels. There is a reason cell manufacturers are trying hard to improve upon their previous iterations. Cell phones most upgrades generations after generations have been their camera.

Making a blank statement such as the "cellphone is NOT the limiting factor" is simply ignoring the facts and biased. You could say it is not the limiting factor for my use, expectations, or skill level and objectives.
 
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George1958 said:
I think cell phones are ok if you can accept their limitations. What I dislike the most about them is handing over so much control to a device, and the software creating a look that is meant to be pleasing. To me it’s not, it’s very predictable and formulaic.

i shoot DSLR and mirrorless. I don’t mind carrying either and would substitute the carrying of more gear over my cell phone any day. not only will I get more satisfaction , I will get better Images. Cell phones demotivate me, the quick and easy convenience is quickly lost in the less engaging process of taking an image. Most would agree that it’s a lot about the person behind the camera, will cell phones it’s the cell phone that makes most of the decisions. This for me lessons the value of imagery.
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Other than aperture, which is fixed on a smartphone, you can control everything else: focus point, metering, exposure compensation, shutter speed, ISO, raw/jpg, image processing, etc. So you’re choosing to use it as a point & shoot. But that’s not a limitation of the tool.

Why do people revive 8 month old threads to post stuff like this?
 
I suspect few do use all of the controls but you can’t control the heavily processed output unless of course there are raw images you can access.

people post stuff like because just like yourself, they have an opinion they wish to share.
 
George1958 said:
I suspect few do use all of the controls but you can’t control the heavily processed output unless of course there are raw images you can access.
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There are raw files, if you want them. Oddly I find it’s usually other photographers who know the least about smartphone cameras and how to use them. It’s very odd, especially when they go online to flame smartphones and people who use them, and don’t even seem to know basic facts about the devices.
 
Nice stab in the dark I find people who comment on people and make personal remarks with no knowledge of that individual a little more disconcerting than those who may not know the ins and outs of a banal cell phone
 
Between a heavy dslr and a phone, i choose a quality compact camera. It's the best compromise overall. A quality phone works too, but only during daytime.
 
Not sure it’s too much of a compromise, some of the 1 inch sensor premium cameras are very very good.
 
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