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Would some body recomend the nx1 battery grip for video shoting
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No, it serves no purpose, except in one situation - if you are using the 16-50mm S lens on a tripod the lens body is bigger than the camera, so you have to mount the camera forward on the plate, which is not ideal since it unbalances the head. Attaching the grip raises the body and resolves that particular problem. The 50-150mm lens also has a lens diameter larger than the body, but in that case you would mount it to the plate using the lens collar attachment.
parakalien
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I completely disagree that it serves no purpose. It serves two incredibly valuable purposes for video. It gives you longer battery life (obviously) and more importantly it gives you a better grip which allows you to hold the camera steadier.
So true!!
Lawrence Norman
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1. Diameter of both S lenses [16-50mm and 50-150):
__Larger with hood attached
__Smaller with hood off.
2. 50-150 S Lens Collar: Prefer always using:
__Improves Body/Lens weight balance which reduces stress on the body/lens mount.
__Fast to switch between landscape / portrait.
__Fastest way to set horizontal leveling when using in-body level display (in 50% of most situations).
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When shooting video, if you are hand-holding you would be using the camera's own grip, not the add on grip (which is only useful when the camera is operated vertically). Having the base attached just gets in the way. Unless you are shooting video vertically of course, but no one does that except on cell phones.
Battery life is not a problem, it takes a few seconds to change batteries, and in any case you will likely need to swap cards long before you need to change batteries (to head off that argument).
Just from an ergonomic point of view, when shooting video you want to cradle the lens with your off hand for stabilization, and with the add-on grip attached that is difficult and uncomfortable. It gets in the way, particularly if you are shooting video. The ergonomics of the NX1 goes from perfect to s**t as soon as you attach that thing.
The main reason people want the base grip is so they can look like they are serious professionals. Other than that is just gets in the way.
Historically the reason why that grip is there in pro cameras is because back in the analog film days pro's would use mechanical autowinders on their cameras. These were powered by motors located in the base. The motors in turn were powered by batteries usually located in sculpted holds on the side. As a result of all of these extras the pro cameras were much heavier than consumer cameras, which in turn necessitated the grips so you could hold on to them. Modern digital cameras are much lighter (especially MILCs) and don't require all of those historical vestiges (which nowdays are there primarily for prestige - so the user can be perceived as "serious" or "professional"). Pro cameras still have them, even though they are not necessary, because pros are used to having them there and don't like change.
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You can't attach the 16-50mm lens to a proper video head without the lens ring rubbing against the plate because of the fat diameter, unless you mount it forward on the plate, which unbalances the head by placing the center of gravity forward. On a stills tripod it is fine. On a video tripod it is not. You can try using a shortened stills plate on the video head, but then you risk the camera falling off if you are not careful because it is not designed for that. For the 16-50mm lens you really need a riser to get around the problem, and the add-on grip serves that purpose.
It is not an issue with the 50-150 because you would use the lens mount with it's custom riser to attach it to the plate.
Lawrence Norman
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My humble apologies to all thinking one could mount the 16-50 S with hood disconnected. I've never used a Video Tripod. I did connect my 16-50 S to my NX1, then used a level which displayed a 'slight' downward reading towards the end of lens. Guess my is a bit off. Thankyou Mokara for your post
Video heads look like this:
The mounting plate is quite long (it is made this way for stability), and it is that length that causes the issue with the 16-50 lens. As I said, you can use a stills plate (which is much shorter), but if it is not clamped in it will slide off the end of the rails. The proper video plate has a stop built into it which prevents that, so even if the camera is not locked in it will not fall off the tripod, it will just slide back and forth along the rails.
I did buy a stills plate for my tripod because attaching the grip makes the camera clunky to hold otherwise, but you have to be really careful and make sure the camera is securely locked down before moving the tripod around, otherwise it may fall off. It certainly does not inspire the same sort of confidence that the proper plate does.
This is the case with Manfrotto heads, but I expect that other manufacturers of bridge style video heads will have similar issues with the 16-50 since they all have similar designs.
The mounting plate is quite long (it is made this way for stability), and it is that length that causes the issue with the 16-50 lens. As I said, you can use a stills plate (which is much shorter), but if it is not clamped in it will slide off the end of the rails. The proper video plate has a stop built into it which prevents that, so even if the camera is not locked in it will not fall off the tripod, it will just slide back and forth along the rails.
I did buy a stills plate for my tripod because attaching the grip makes the camera clunky to hold otherwise, but you have to be really careful and make sure the camera is securely locked down before moving the tripod around, otherwise it may fall off. It certainly does not inspire the same sort of confidence that the proper plate does.
This is the case with Manfrotto heads, but I expect that other manufacturers of bridge style video heads will have similar issues with the 16-50 since they all have similar designs.
I use a cage for mirrorless/dSLR cameras, that would solve the problem for once, but I also use a riser, sometimes with rails, sometimes just the riser, it gives me a few advancements, like I can make pans holding the riser (better motion, because it is exactly in the middle of the weight), a few extra cm for higher camera placement, the benefit of using rails (for focus mechanisms, matte boxes, or extra equipment like led lights or mics etc), and also it is easier to take the camera off and on. It is not such a big issue in my opinion, photo cameras for video ain't ergonomically right, so one has to improve a few aspects.
Definitelly a C100mkII type of camera is a better video tool, but my NXs are great for most things anyway.
I've personally found that the battery grip helps when handholding with the 16-50mm S. Despite the combination weighing more, It acts as a counter balance and helps shift some of the weight balance back towards the sensor axis so it doesn't feel as front heavy. It also allows me to use parts of my lower hand to help hold and stabilise the camera too.
The battery life benefit is negligible to me. I only use it for stability purposes. =D
The battery life benefit is negligible to me. I only use it for stability purposes. =D
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