Switching Camera for Food Photography

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I would like to step into semi-pro food photography and I am wondering if i should upgrade my camera Canon 100D to something else. Currently I am using it with the Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 STM lens which i find it not as great as i would like it. Can someone advice me if i should upgrade my current kit or just pick a better lens to go with it.
 
"Can someone advice me if i should upgrade my current kit or just pick a better lens to go with it."

Probably not. The camera and lens are capable of very good results. With two provisos, one realistic, one probably too esoteric:

Realistically if you need to get closer a different lens would help you to do that.

Esoterically for product photography of whatever type a lens with tilt would enable better control of depth of field, about $/£1300, but there is more to it than simply buying one.

What do you want from your setup you cannot currently get?

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"Can someone advice me if i should upgrade my current kit or just pick a better lens to go with it."

Probably not. The camera and lens are capable of very good results. With two provisos, one realistic, one probably too esoteric:

Realistically if you need to get closer a different lens would help you to do that.

Esoterically for product photography of whatever type a lens with tilt would enable better control of depth of field, about $/£1300, but there is more to it than simply buying one.

What do you want from your setup you cannot currently get?
 
Without knowing what's not so great, the sl1 is a very capable camera for stills. I would invest in an L lens and then decide if the camera needs upgrading.
hi, thanks for your advice. L lens is actually way more exp than a new body with my old 50mm 1.8 lens to be honest that/s why i was thinking of getting something like 80D or so. I looked into the 50mm 1.2 L lens but I am not very sure if it will make my 100D do way better job than investing to a new body and using the old 50mm 1.8..
 
I would like to step into semi-pro food photography and I am wondering if i should upgrade my camera Canon 100D to something else.
if you are shooting in a studio, you'll have control over the light, which helps a lot, you can get by with less camera... but at 18mp, that is a pretty weak camera.
Currently I am using it with the Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 STM lens which i find it not as great as i would like it.
that's a really old lens design, but on the plus side, you are probably using it stopped way down, where the differences matter less.

if you wanted to step up, maybe consider a tamron 45/1.8 lens, or a macro lens... you don't want an f/1.2 lens for this, because you are shooting stopped down.
 
I would like to step into semi-pro food photography and I am wondering if i should upgrade my camera Canon 100D to something else. Currently I am using it with the Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 STM lens which i find it not as great as i would like it. Can someone advice me if i should upgrade my current kit or just pick a better lens to go with it.
Though I'm not familiar with the IQ of your current camera, I believe you'd be better served by a lens or two. The 50mm simply isn't enough. It doesn't focus close enough, and the focal length is limiting. I suggest you look into a longer macro lens, maybe 100mm or so. You'll also need to budget for lighting. A "better" camera body might give you somewhat cleaner images and higher resolution, but without the flexibility of a good selection of lenses, it won't take you very far.

If you can afford a macro lens, consider attaching macro tubes between the camera body and your 50mm for closer focusing distances and greater magnification. Macro tubes can compromise edge sharpness somewhat, but if your edges are out of focus, that may not matter. You'll need macro tubes with electronic contacts to enable the AF and aperture control of your Canon lens(es).

I assume you're shooting on a tripod. If not, budget for one.

Finally, color accuracy is largely a matter of properly processing your RAW files. Consider getting an X-rite ColorChecker Passport ($99) and Lightroom, and use the CCP to generate custom color profiles for your camera and lighting.

Finally, educate yourself on focus stacking techniques. In macro photography, it's often difficult to get DoF deep enough without stopping the lens all the way down and suffering image softening due to diffraction. Focus stacking involves taking multiple frames with focus set at different points, then merging the frames to create a final image with deeper DoF. Some cameras (including recent Panasonic Micro Four Thirds models) have focus stacking built-in, but you can do it manually in Photoshop with a camera that lacks this feature.

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I would like to step into semi-pro food photography and I am wondering if i should upgrade my camera Canon 100D to something else.
if you are shooting in a studio, you'll have control over the light, which helps a lot, you can get by with less camera... but at 18mp, that is a pretty weak camera.
Currently I am using it with the Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 STM lens which i find it not as great as i would like it.
that's a really old lens design, but on the plus side, you are probably using it stopped way down, where the differences matter less.

if you wanted to step up, maybe consider a tamron 45/1.8 lens, or a macro lens... you don't want an f/1.2 lens for this, because you are shooting stopped down.
 
I would like to step into semi-pro food photography and I am wondering if i should upgrade my camera Canon 100D to something else. Currently I am using it with the Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 STM lens which i find it not as great as i would like it. Can someone advice me if i should upgrade my current kit or just pick a better lens to go with it.
Though I'm not familiar with the IQ of your current camera, I believe you'd be better served by a lens or two. The 50mm simply isn't enough. It doesn't focus close enough, and the focal length is limiting. I suggest you look into a longer macro lens, maybe 100mm or so. You'll also need to budget for lighting. A "better" camera body might give you somewhat cleaner images and higher resolution, but without the flexibility of a good selection of lenses, it won't take you very far.

If you can afford a macro lens, consider attaching macro tubes between the camera body and your 50mm for closer focusing distances and greater magnification. Macro tubes can compromise edge sharpness somewhat, but if your edges are out of focus, that may not matter. You'll need macro tubes with electronic contacts to enable the AF and aperture control of your Canon lens(es).

I assume you're shooting on a tripod. If not, budget for one.

Finally, color accuracy is largely a matter of properly processing your RAW files. Consider getting an X-rite ColorChecker Passport ($99) and Lightroom, and use the CCP to generate custom color profiles for your camera and lighting.

Finally, educate yourself on focus stacking techniques. In macro photography, it's often difficult to get DoF deep enough without stopping the lens all the way down and suffering image softening due to diffraction. Focus stacking involves taking multiple frames with focus set at different points, then merging the frames to create a final image with deeper DoF. Some cameras (including recent Panasonic Micro Four Thirds models) have focus stacking built-in, but you can do it manually in Photoshop with a camera that lacks this feature.
 
I would like to step into semi-pro food photography and I am wondering if i should upgrade my camera Canon 100D to something else. Currently I am using it with the Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 STM lens which i find it not as great as i would like it. Can someone advice me if i should upgrade my current kit or just pick a better lens to go with it.
Though I'm not familiar with the IQ of your current camera, I believe you'd be better served by a lens or two. The 50mm simply isn't enough. It doesn't focus close enough, and the focal length is limiting. I suggest you look into a longer macro lens, maybe 100mm or so. You'll also need to budget for lighting. A "better" camera body might give you somewhat cleaner images and higher resolution, but without the flexibility of a good selection of lenses, it won't take you very far.

If you can afford a macro lens, consider attaching macro tubes between the camera body and your 50mm for closer focusing distances and greater magnification. Macro tubes can compromise edge sharpness somewhat, but if your edges are out of focus, that may not matter. You'll need macro tubes with electronic contacts to enable the AF and aperture control of your Canon lens(es).

I assume you're shooting on a tripod. If not, budget for one.

Finally, color accuracy is largely a matter of properly processing your RAW files. Consider getting an X-rite ColorChecker Passport ($99) and Lightroom, and use the CCP to generate custom color profiles for your camera and lighting.

Finally, educate yourself on focus stacking techniques. In macro photography, it's often difficult to get DoF deep enough without stopping the lens all the way down and suffering image softening due to diffraction. Focus stacking involves taking multiple frames with focus set at different points, then merging the frames to create a final image with deeper DoF. Some cameras (including recent Panasonic Micro Four Thirds models) have focus stacking built-in, but you can do it manually in Photoshop with a camera that lacks this feature.
 
I would like to step into semi-pro food photography and I am wondering if i should upgrade my camera Canon 100D to something else. Currently I am using it with the Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 STM lens which i find it not as great as i would like it. Can someone advice me if i should upgrade my current kit or just pick a better lens to go with it.
Macro lens and off-camera lighting, and if you can't afford both, then off-camera lighting, is more likely to give you what you want vs. swapping camera bodies.

Food/product photography is more about the lighting than anything else. And if you're doing all your food shooting wide open at f/1.8 to get as much blur as possible, then you're... um... not doing it quite right, imnsho.

Highly recommend you look into the Strobist.

One thing is to know your 50/1.8 at apertures other than f/1.8. At f/1.8, that lens is at its softest. Its "sweet spot" is actually in the f/4-f/5.6 range. Using a lens wide open increases the chances of chromatic aberration, vignetting, and softness. If you ever use that lens at f/1.8, be sure you know why you're willing to trade in on sharpness for the wide open aperture, and consider whether stopping down to f/2 or f/2.8 might not be worthwhile.

Lighting gives you the option to stop the lens down, get things sharper, and to set up lighting ratios that can help increase contrast. If you light properly, nobody will even know that's what you did. Go google "food photography lighting" and see what other food photographers have to say on the subject.

White balancing tools, like a white balance card or XRite ColorChecker might also come in handy.

While the SL1 might not be the best tool for doing professional food photography, it's not the main thing holding you back.
 
Colour reproduction (which is critical to food photography of course) is pretty much entirely down to the photographer, the lighting and processing of the files after taking. I'm not sure what you mean by "smooth". If you mean too much grain or noise then again that is likely to be a question of how you are shooting. Unless you need to get closer than you can with your current set up a new lens won't help and an new camera will also make scant difference. I think you need to examine your technique in detail. I'd look to lighting, colour of lighting and so the ISO you are needing. The longer macro lens might help with lighting by getting you further from the food you are shooting but if it is in a restaurant it might leave you too far away.

My initial suggestion is better light and shooting RAW files to process after taking.
 
Have you looked at the pixel shifting option on recent Pentaxes ?

(K3(ii), K70, K1, KP)



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FooDieTong wrote:
even with 100 iso i can somehow still notice the noise quite a lot. is my setting not on the best it should be or what can i do to improve it.
That 18mp sensor has been used on a LOT of Canon models. You can go look at the DPReview test images to see what it's noise looks like, but if you are getting unacceptable noise at ISO 100, I would look at lighting first. From your description, you have just one, LED-lit softbox, and that might not be enough. And LED lighting isn't the best; it's colors aren't very even.

I think that for food photography, the lighting and the camera stand matter the most, and then the lens, and last the body.

You're doing the exact right things: You're identifying what's missing in your photos. One solution I've used in these cases is to look for photos that have the look you want, then look at the lens and settings which they use. You can also borrow or rent lenses.
 

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