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nixda said:
John Gellings said:
Greg7579 said:
Double .... No. Put it on a tripod and ISO 200, wide open at F2. The speed will be much slower, not faster..... Come on now....
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Or go out and make real photographs, not tests.
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I personally think it should be best practice to test a piece of equipment using standard, reference conditions to make sure it is within specs, particularly within the warranty period, or the period where one can return it should there be a problem. Taking 'real photographs' works but will take much longer and one needs to have a very keen eye.
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Also books, at varying depths, are not a good test shot. Objects out of focus are often thought of as soft lens problems.
 
nixda said:
John Gellings said:
Greg7579 said:
Double .... No. Put it on a tripod and ISO 200, wide open at F2. The speed will be much slower, not faster..... Come on now....
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Or go out and make real photographs, not tests.
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I personally think it should be best practice to test a piece of equipment using standard, reference conditions to make sure it is within specs, particularly within the warranty period, or the period where one can return it should there be a problem. Taking 'real photographs' works but will take much longer and one needs to have a very keen eye.
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I'm just of the opinion that "bad" or faulty lenses are a lot more rare than the dpreview folks think.
 
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John Gellings said:
nixda said:
John Gellings said:
Greg7579 said:
Double .... No. Put it on a tripod and ISO 200, wide open at F2. The speed will be much slower, not faster..... Come on now....
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Or go out and make real photographs, not tests.
Click to expand...
I personally think it should be best practice to test a piece of equipment using standard, reference conditions to make sure it is within specs, particularly within the warranty period, or the period where one can return it should there be a problem. Taking 'real photographs' works but will take much longer and one needs to have a very keen eye.
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I'm just of the opinion that "bad" or faulty lenses are a lot more rare than the dpreview folks think.
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TOTALLY AGREE !!!!!!!!
 
John Gellings said:
  • John Gellings wrote:
nixda said:
John Gellings said:
Greg7579 said:
Double .... No. Put it on a tripod and ISO 200, wide open at F2. The speed will be much slower, not faster..... Come on now....
Click to expand...
Or go out and make real photographs, not tests.
Click to expand...
I personally think it should be best practice to test a piece of equipment using standard, reference conditions to make sure it is within specs, particularly within the warranty period, or the period where one can return it should there be a problem. Taking 'real photographs' works but will take much longer and one needs to have a very keen eye.
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I'm just of the opinion that "bad" or faulty lenses are a lot more rare than the dpreview folks think.
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Oh you are absolutely righ. But that does not void the necessity of testing the equipment.

There is definitely a trend to a) not performing tests correctly and/or b) over-interpreting the results, typically in a pessimistic direction. But seeing things as worse than they are is a typical (forgivable, IMO) consumer attitude when one has just spent significant amounts of often hard-earned money.
 
jbieber said:
So, you bought a $1300+ set up to take pictures of books. Why? To show others that you have hardback books? Hipster much? Do u think we are impressed? I'm not.
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Actually it was $1,699 - plus tax.
jbieber said:
You bought a F2 lens when the wonderful 35mm F1.4 was available. Why? Do u really need WR? Is the F1.4 really 10 lbs heavier? New is not always better. F2 was meant as a smaller WR lens. F1.4 photos are better and that's why this older lens still costs more.

If you want to make photos that inspire people for generations to come, focus on appropriate colors, interesting composition (rule of thirds, symmetry, rule of 3s, proper exposure, subject isolation). You can do this with old cameras and old lens. You cannot buy talent and skill ... you have to develop it by FOCUSING on the foundations of photography.
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Or try it with flash...
 
That isn't a reply that is calculated to help.
 
jbieber said:
So, you bought a $1300+ set up to take pictures of books. Why? To show others that you have hardback books? Hipster much? Do u think we are impressed? I'm not.

You bought a F2 lens when the wonderful 35mm F1.4 was available. Why? Do u really need WR? Is the F1.4 really 10 lbs heavier? New is not always better. F2 was meant as a smaller WR lens. F1.4 photos are better and that's why this older lens still costs more.

If you want to make photos that inspire people for generations to come, focus on appropriate colors, interesting composition (rule of thirds, symmetry, rule of 3s, proper exposure, subject isolation). You can do this with old cameras and old lens. You cannot buy talent and skill ... you have to develop it by FOCUSING on the foundations of photography.
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What a rude response. I think an apology is in order. And if not, take your rubbish elsewhere.
 
jbieber said:
So, you bought a $1300+ set up to take pictures of books. Why? To show others that you have hardback books? Hipster much? Do u think we are impressed? I'm not.
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This is completely uncalled for. Ad hominems have no place in a civil discussion. I suggest you apologize.
jbieber said:
You bought a F2 lens when the wonderful 35mm F1.4 was available. Why? Do u really need WR? Is the F1.4 really 10 lbs heavier? New is not always better. F2 was meant as a smaller WR lens. F1.4 photos are better and that's why this older lens still costs more.
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Both lenses make good choices depending on individual needs. The OP has made his choice.
jbieber said:
If you want to make photos that inspire people for generations to come, focus on appropriate colors, interesting composition (rule of thirds, symmetry, rule of 3s, proper exposure, subject isolation). You can do this with old cameras and old lens. You cannot buy talent and skill ... you have to develop it by FOCUSING on the foundations of photography.
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You make too many assumptions about perfect strangers, based on nothing more than single post. Why?
 
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