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which is something you never heard in film era because cameras were made correctly to begin with
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Fuji X100F issues
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which is something you never heard in film era because cameras were made correctly to begin with
WAIT bigger?! ..........passI saw a demo unit today at the local store . I haven't noticed any issues with it. I already knew what to check for thoThe corners of the screen were firmly fixed and I didn't notice any dust . However , the battery was low and I couldn't test it . I didn't buy it tho . Its kinda bigger and heavier than the "T". I'll think about it for a bit more .
Head-to-head compared the F will be a couple of mill larger in every dimension, plus 40 grams heavier.
The weight increase is not welcome but I think the dimensions will not be noticeable after a few days of use.
sarbos
Leading Member
Bigger?
Source DP Review:
F: 127 x 75 x 52 mm (5 x 2.95 x 2.05″)
T: 127 x 74 x 52 mm (5 x 2.91 x 2.05″)
One milimeter...
I use the same "official" fuji case I've been used with my original X100... so...
Source DP Review:
F: 127 x 75 x 52 mm (5 x 2.95 x 2.05″)
T: 127 x 74 x 52 mm (5 x 2.91 x 2.05″)
One milimeter...
I use the same "official" fuji case I've been used with my original X100... so...
X100DL
Active member
UPDATE:
It's been just over a week that I awaited the response from Fuji Service... essentially I dealt with the dealer through this time... the context has been that I feel I should be provided a brand new X100F given the various issues with the copy I purchased.
The initial position of the dealer was to suggest and agree that I should be provided a new copy (not refurbished) or that I purchase something else, or have my money returned. This position changed to "Fuji will determine what to do... and that they would be looking to repair the camera..." at which point the dealer attempted to extricate themselves from any commitment by stating that Fuji would deal with me directly.
Here's what I would suggest to any having difficulty with a new X100f requiring service or repair - INSIST that the dealer is party to the transaction, and INSIST that they provide the options available... and essentially demand a new copy.
As of yesterday I was advised Fuji would be shipping me a brand new copy of an X100f... the only variable now is to confirm that I expect a NEW copy, and not refurbished.
In conclusion this leads to one thing - establish terms and conditions with a dealer before buying... the context should be that if folks are returning copies ordered online for dust behind the lens then one should absolutely expect a return/exchange if purchasing at a dealer.
It's been just over a week that I awaited the response from Fuji Service... essentially I dealt with the dealer through this time... the context has been that I feel I should be provided a brand new X100F given the various issues with the copy I purchased.
The initial position of the dealer was to suggest and agree that I should be provided a new copy (not refurbished) or that I purchase something else, or have my money returned. This position changed to "Fuji will determine what to do... and that they would be looking to repair the camera..." at which point the dealer attempted to extricate themselves from any commitment by stating that Fuji would deal with me directly.
Here's what I would suggest to any having difficulty with a new X100f requiring service or repair - INSIST that the dealer is party to the transaction, and INSIST that they provide the options available... and essentially demand a new copy.
As of yesterday I was advised Fuji would be shipping me a brand new copy of an X100f... the only variable now is to confirm that I expect a NEW copy, and not refurbished.
In conclusion this leads to one thing - establish terms and conditions with a dealer before buying... the context should be that if folks are returning copies ordered online for dust behind the lens then one should absolutely expect a return/exchange if purchasing at a dealer.
Woodman100
Well-known member
It feels more substantial and certainly heavier. If that was backed up with Build quality then OK, but in my case it just wasn't.
I know some people will love this camera, but not sure it is that much more 'portable' than say an Olympus Pen -F or small dslr both of which leave it for dead in terms of focussing and stabilisation.
The only real advantage is that the depth is a bit shallower with the lens. That said the lens has always been prone to flare so in any bright conditions a hood is essential which takes away the advantage. Same with the advantage of 'Fuji Colours', I shoot raw mostly so less important.
I suppose when a design has been around for so long, you naturally tire of it when it has issues. If you really want something compact the X100 isn't really and the extra weight doesn't help. Following my recent experience I won't be picking up my replacement when it arrives and comparing photos taken with the F and my wife's RX100v which I used on the same weekend I didn't see anything compelling to choose the F over the RX100. The Fuji may creep ahead at high iso but the little sony is no slouch in that department and 'appears to have a greater dynamic range despite its smaller sensor and its focussing is better. Its Raw files are very clean and you can get a very nice colour balance. The Jpegs for landscape shots were actually preferred over those from the Fuji.
And of course it was worked perfectly out of the box. I think it was said somewhere else in this thread, but my experience with Canon is that I have never once had to return one - they have excellent QC. Fuji do some things very well, but they really need to improve this area.
I know some people will love this camera, but not sure it is that much more 'portable' than say an Olympus Pen -F or small dslr both of which leave it for dead in terms of focussing and stabilisation.
The only real advantage is that the depth is a bit shallower with the lens. That said the lens has always been prone to flare so in any bright conditions a hood is essential which takes away the advantage. Same with the advantage of 'Fuji Colours', I shoot raw mostly so less important.
I suppose when a design has been around for so long, you naturally tire of it when it has issues. If you really want something compact the X100 isn't really and the extra weight doesn't help. Following my recent experience I won't be picking up my replacement when it arrives and comparing photos taken with the F and my wife's RX100v which I used on the same weekend I didn't see anything compelling to choose the F over the RX100. The Fuji may creep ahead at high iso but the little sony is no slouch in that department and 'appears to have a greater dynamic range despite its smaller sensor and its focussing is better. Its Raw files are very clean and you can get a very nice colour balance. The Jpegs for landscape shots were actually preferred over those from the Fuji.
And of course it was worked perfectly out of the box. I think it was said somewhere else in this thread, but my experience with Canon is that I have never once had to return one - they have excellent QC. Fuji do some things very well, but they really need to improve this area.
sarbos
Leading Member
X100F: 469 g (1.03 lb / 16.54 oz)
X100T: 440 g (0.97 lb / 15.52 oz)
29g ...
To put some perspective:
1 shot = 0.29573529562 deciliter = 29.5 grams
"certainly heavier" is a bit... overshoot...
FoxShutter
Leading Member
When Canon reduced some 60 grams from their 5DIV, compared to 5DIII, it was one of their marketing tools even . Yes 60 gram from a kilo
40 grams its a lot for this specific camera and I could feel it . This is just compared to the "T" . And to the classic ?
Its like if Sony RX100V would wait 20g more compared to Sony Rx100iv.
S
slclick
Guest
My X100F quest has ended. I am now looking into a Pen F with better than Oly glass preferably pancakes. I do wish Panasonic made a Leica pancake.
Woodman100
Well-known member
29g and 1mm may sound nothing, but it is noticeable.
X100F: 469 g (1.03 lb / 16.54 oz)
X100T: 440 g (0.97 lb / 15.52 oz)
29g ...
To put some perspective:
1 shot = 0.29573529562 deciliter = 29.5 grams
"certainly heavier" is a bit... overshoot...
merliin
Member
Hi All,
Just to let you know: the issues in the first batch of X100Fs are not far fetched. After a one month long waiting today I finally received a message that my pre-ordered camera had arrived in store. No free leather case though, yet. I decided to pick up the camera anyway and keep waiting for the case.
However, having read almost everything about the X100F in the internet, including this thread, I came to the shop with the list of checks to be made before paying for the camera.
The camera was brand new and factory sealed. The first thing I noticed was almost empty battery. So if you want to examine carefuly camera in store before making a purchase (which I absolutely recommend) bring your own charged battery and SD card.
The second thing were three big dust particles in the centre of the lens together with a fourth, smaller one. Those would probably not be visible in pics - but I cannot accept something like this in a brand new camera that is over USD 1500 worth (PLN 6100 in my case). I therefore decided to skip this piece and wait for the second batch, hopefully this time - with the promised case.
I also noticed that the cover of the LCD screen is a bit soft/mushy, especially in the lower right corner - which was also mentioned in one of the posts here. Nothing major, however in comparison, the screen of my (beloved) X100 classic feels rock-solid.
Hope this helps those of you who are about to pick up their cameras.
PS. By the way, I am very much used to the user experience of my X100 classic. It is with me all the time. I am considering an upgrade (X100 stays with me anyway) because of: the AF (esp. in low light), better high ISO, Classic Chrome and Acros, better EVF and WiFi - to name just the major improvements... HOWEVER, after playing for approx. 10 mins with the X100F in store I am not that sure anymore that I really need this upgrade. The X100 still feels great and remains a wonderful camera! Here's one of the many proofs:
So do I really need this CChrome, Acros etc. - or is it just a severe GAS attack
Cheers from Warsaw, Poland!
Michal.
Just to let you know: the issues in the first batch of X100Fs are not far fetched. After a one month long waiting today I finally received a message that my pre-ordered camera had arrived in store. No free leather case though, yet. I decided to pick up the camera anyway and keep waiting for the case.
However, having read almost everything about the X100F in the internet, including this thread, I came to the shop with the list of checks to be made before paying for the camera.
The camera was brand new and factory sealed. The first thing I noticed was almost empty battery. So if you want to examine carefuly camera in store before making a purchase (which I absolutely recommend) bring your own charged battery and SD card.
The second thing were three big dust particles in the centre of the lens together with a fourth, smaller one. Those would probably not be visible in pics - but I cannot accept something like this in a brand new camera that is over USD 1500 worth (PLN 6100 in my case). I therefore decided to skip this piece and wait for the second batch, hopefully this time - with the promised case.
I also noticed that the cover of the LCD screen is a bit soft/mushy, especially in the lower right corner - which was also mentioned in one of the posts here. Nothing major, however in comparison, the screen of my (beloved) X100 classic feels rock-solid.
Hope this helps those of you who are about to pick up their cameras.
PS. By the way, I am very much used to the user experience of my X100 classic. It is with me all the time. I am considering an upgrade (X100 stays with me anyway) because of: the AF (esp. in low light), better high ISO, Classic Chrome and Acros, better EVF and WiFi - to name just the major improvements... HOWEVER, after playing for approx. 10 mins with the X100F in store I am not that sure anymore that I really need this upgrade. The X100 still feels great and remains a wonderful camera! Here's one of the many proofs:
So do I really need this CChrome, Acros etc. - or is it just a severe GAS attack
Cheers from Warsaw, Poland!
Michal.
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3DPhotography
Senior Member
My initial one (received Feb 24 from B&H) was serial number 71A01369. I returned it due to dust / detritus inside the lens.
My second one (received March 8 from Wolfe's in Topeka) is serial number 71A01735. It seems to be just fine.
Hope this helps,
Don
sarbos
Leading Member
Congratulations on deciding not to buy a camera you don't like.
I'm very happy with mine.
I'm very happy with mine.
merliin
Member
Thanks! PS. Not saying I totally don't like the X100F It will just take more time for me to switch... (probably) as soon as the 2+nd batch hits the shelves, together with the pre-sale half-case.
It will just take more time for me to switch... (probably) as soon as the 2+nd batch hits the shelves, together with the pre-sale half-case.
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some are easier to please than othersCongratulations on deciding not to buy a camera you don't like.
I'm very happy with mine.
merliin
Member
True, the same the other way around. Especially pixel peepers are the toughest ones to be pleased.some are easier to please than othersCongratulations on deciding not to buy a camera you don't like.
I'm very happy with mine.
true as well but, at 1300 usd there shouln't be issues at box opening, at 350. maybe oneTrue, the same the other way around. Especially pixel peepers are the toughest ones to be pleased.some are easier to please than othersCongratulations on deciding not to buy a camera you don't like.
I'm very happy with mine.
S
slclick
Guest
And one of many reasons why I went with a Pen F instead. Funny how 3 months of reading, researching, waiting and listening about one thing can lead you in the direction of another.true as well but, at 1300 usd there shouln't be issues at box opening, at 350. maybe oneTrue, the same the other way around. Especially pixel peepers are the toughest ones to be pleased.some are easier to please than othersCongratulations on deciding not to buy a camera you don't like.
I'm very happy with mine.
I got an X100F a month ago at a local dealer. The ELF and LCD displays rendered B&W with a brownish tint. I took it back. I looked at a black version they had in stock. The auto-focus that is supposed to be much faster than my T was hunting in good light. I handed it back to the sales person with, "No thanks." I decided to upgrade to an X-T2. Got it home and noticed that in the ELF I had a green and magenta line on opposite sides of straight line images and the playback flickered. I haven't wend it in yet but since I have an X-Pro2 that works great I probably will. Seems Fuji got swamped with orders on the new cameras and quality control is not there. They are getting their screens from Sony who is a compeditor. Fuji's orders to Sony had to jump as well so it's hard to say who is dropping the ball, but I would NOT buy a new Fuji camera until the dust settles!!!
When I was having all the problems mentioned in a previous post I called the Fuji rep. They acted as if I was the only to call in with these issues. I know this is not the case since I'd seem similar complaints already on the net. This is just not like Fuji Support. I think the issue may be systemic and large so they're playing it down until they can decide how to handle it. I told them all the Fuji bodies and lenses I have or have had and let them know in no uncertain terms that they'd better get their act together, own it, let us now and FIX IT or the brand is going to suffer in a large way. I was a loyal enthusiastic Fuji photographer but am holding off until I see what they do. It can't be me since I had problems with all three cameras I tested (two X100F's and an X-T2) that have been manufactured since January in a row. What are the chances of that?
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