60d for low light

Darksoul43 said:

I currently own the Cano 1dmk2n and its really good but I'm starting to notice it's limits when it gets darker and the images get noisier, I have found cheap 60d around (or a 70d for the same price but not turning on) and was wondering if this would be a good add on to my collection to do some low light photos including astro-land spare photography and just anything else at night, please note I am trying to stick to Canon since I am on a budget and don't want to be buying two sets of lenses

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Darksoul43 said:

I currently own the Cano 1dmk2n and its really good but I'm starting to notice it's limits when it gets darker and the images get noisier, I have found cheap 60d around (or a 70d for the same price but not turning on) and was wondering if this would be a good add on to my collection to do some low light photos including astro-land spare photography and just anything else at night, please note I am trying to stick to Canon since I am on a budget and don't want to be buying two sets of lenses

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Based on DXOMark, 60d might be a step back, 70d about the same and 80d a bit better.

Why not look at 6D which will be a very significant upgrade for lowlight.

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Darksoul43 said:

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Darksoul43 said:

I currently own the Cano 1dmk2n and its really good but I'm starting to notice it's limits when it gets darker and the images get noisier, I have found cheap 60d around (or a 70d for the same price but not turning on) and was wondering if this would be a good add on to my collection to do some low light photos including astro-land spare photography and just anything else at night, please note I am trying to stick to Canon since I am on a budget and don't want to be buying two sets of lenses

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Based on DXOMark, 60d might be a step back, 70d about the same and 80d a bit better.

Why not look at 6D which will be a very significant upgrade for lowlight.

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Darksoul43 said:

I currently own the Cano 1dmk2n and its really good but I'm starting to notice it's limits when it gets darker and the images get noisier, I have found cheap 60d around (or a 70d for the same price but not turning on) and was wondering if this would be a good add on to my collection to do some low light photos including astro-land spare photography and just anything else at night, please note I am trying to stick to Canon since I am on a budget and don't want to be buying two sets of lenses

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davev8 said:

Darksoul43 said:

rxb dc said:

Darksoul43 said:

I currently own the Cano 1dmk2n and its really good but I'm starting to notice it's limits when it gets darker and the images get noisier, I have found cheap 60d around (or a 70d for the same price but not turning on) and was wondering if this would be a good add on to my collection to do some low light photos including astro-land spare photography and just anything else at night, please note I am trying to stick to Canon since I am on a budget and don't want to be buying two sets of lenses

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Based on DXOMark, 60d might be a step back, 70d about the same and 80d a bit better.

Why not look at 6D which will be a very significant upgrade for lowlight.

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MisterBG said:

Darksoul43 said:

I currently own the Cano 1dmk2n and its really good but I'm starting to notice it's limits when it gets darker and the images get noisier, I have found cheap 60d around (or a 70d for the same price but not turning on) and was wondering if this would be a good add on to my collection to do some low light photos including astro-land spare photography and just anything else at night, please note I am trying to stick to Canon since I am on a budget and don't want to be buying two sets of lenses

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The 60D is nothing to write home about in terms of noise performance. Similarly the 70D (which I had) although there is an advantage with the new sensor in the 80D, which I now have.
However, no APS-C body can match the noise performance of a full frame body like the 6D, which I also have.

If a new camera is beyond your budget why don't you investigate one of the excellent noise reduction software programs that are available?
I use Topaz "DeNoise" which can achieve quite remarkable results on noisy images.

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davev8 said:

Darksoul43 said:

rxb dc said:

Darksoul43 said:

I currently own the Cano 1dmk2n and its really good but I'm starting to notice it's limits when it gets darker and the images get noisier, I have found cheap 60d around (or a 70d for the same price but not turning on) and was wondering if this would be a good add on to my collection to do some low light photos including astro-land spare photography and just anything else at night, please note I am trying to stick to Canon since I am on a budget and don't want to be buying two sets of lenses

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Based on DXOMark, 60d might be a step back, 70d about the same and 80d a bit better.

Why not look at 6D which will be a very significant upgrade for lowlight.

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i would get the 6d if i had the money or even the 70d/80d but i dont have the money to afford those camera as im only 17 (before you ask the 1dmk2n was given to me buy my uncle when he upgraded to the 7d and 5dmk3

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60D is a small step back...what about a faster lens? what lens are you using now? lenses are an investment and keep their value

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davev8 said:

Darksoul43 said:

rxb dc said:

Darksoul43 said:

I currently own the Cano 1dmk2n and its really good but I'm starting to notice it's limits when it gets darker and the images get noisier, I have found cheap 60d around (or a 70d for the same price but not turning on) and was wondering if this would be a good add on to my collection to do some low light photos including astro-land spare photography and just anything else at night, please note I am trying to stick to Canon since I am on a budget and don't want to be buying two sets of lenses

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Based on DXOMark, 60d might be a step back, 70d about the same and 80d a bit better.

Why not look at 6D which will be a very significant upgrade for lowlight.

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Darksoul43 said:

1. Darksoul43 wrote:

davev8 said:

Darksoul43 said:

rxb dc said:

Darksoul43 said:

I currently own the Cano 1dmk2n and its really good but I'm starting to notice it's limits when it gets darker and the images get noisier, I have found cheap 60d around (or a 70d for the same price but not turning on) and was wondering if this would be a good add on to my collection to do some low light photos including astro-land spare photography and just anything else at night, please note I am trying to stick to Canon since I am on a budget and don't want to be buying two sets of lenses

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Based on DXOMark, 60d might be a step back, 70d about the same and 80d a bit better.

Why not look at 6D which will be a very significant upgrade for lowlight.

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rxb dc said:

rxb dc said:

1. Darksoul43 wrote:

davev8 said:

Darksoul43 said:

rxb dc said:

Darksoul43 said:

I currently own the Cano 1dmk2n and its really good but I'm starting to notice it's limits when it gets darker and the images get noisier, I have found cheap 60d around (or a 70d for the same price but not turning on) and was wondering if this would be a good add on to my collection to do some low light photos including astro-land spare photography and just anything else at night, please note I am trying to stick to Canon since I am on a budget and don't want to be buying two sets of lenses

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Based on DXOMark, 60d might be a step back, 70d about the same and 80d a bit better.

Why not look at 6D which will be a very significant upgrade for lowlight.

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Darksoul43 said:

Yeah that's just why I'm trying to stick to the Canon but nikon seems to have cheaper cameras that are better at low light unless I find something like a 5dmk2 that is cheap

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rxb dc said:

Yeah that's just why I'm trying to stick to the Canon but nikon seems to have cheaper cameras that are better at low light unless I find something like a 5dmk2 that is cheap

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The D700 seems to be around $600-700 but is only 12MP and noise is similar to 6D.

The 610 seems somewhat better but is about the same price or more than the 6D.

For Nikon, once you add even $200 for a lens, you are very close to 6D territory.

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rxb dc said:

Yeah that's just why I'm trying to stick to the Canon but nikon seems to have cheaper cameras that are better at low light unless I find something like a 5dmk2 that is cheap

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The D700 seems to be around $600-700 but is only 12MP and noise is similar to 6D.

The 610 seems somewhat better but is about the same price or more than the 6D.

For Nikon, once you add even $200 for a lens, you are very close to 6D territory.

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Darksoul43 said:

I currently own the Cano 1dmk2n and its really good but I'm starting to notice it's limits when it gets darker and the images get noisier, I have found cheap 60d around (or a 70d for the same price but not turning on) and was wondering if this would be a good add on to my collection to do some low light photos including astro-land spare photography and just anything else at night, please note I am trying to stick to Canon since I am on a budget and don't want to be buying two sets of lenses

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Darksoul43 said:

MisterBG said:

Darksoul43 said:

I currently own the Cano 1dmk2n and its really good but I'm starting to notice it's limits when it gets darker and the images get noisier, I have found cheap 60d around (or a 70d for the same price but not turning on) and was wondering if this would be a good add on to my collection to do some low light photos including astro-land spare photography and just anything else at night, please note I am trying to stick to Canon since I am on a budget and don't want to be buying two sets of lenses

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The 60D is nothing to write home about in terms of noise performance. Similarly the 70D (which I had) although there is an advantage with the new sensor in the 80D, which I now have.
However, no APS-C body can match the noise performance of a full frame body like the 6D, which I also have.

If a new camera is beyond your budget why don't you investigate one of the excellent noise reduction software programs that are available?
I use Topaz "DeNoise" which can achieve quite remarkable results on noisy images.

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i am aware that full frames are better and also i have not heard of that program and will try that before buying a camera

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Michael Thomas Mitchell said:

Darksoul43 said:

I currently own the Cano 1dmk2n and its really good but I'm starting to notice it's limits when it gets darker and the images get noisier, I have found cheap 60d around (or a 70d for the same price but not turning on) and was wondering if this would be a good add on to my collection to do some low light photos including astro-land spare photography and just anything else at night, please note I am trying to stick to Canon since I am on a budget and don't want to be buying two sets of lenses

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I love the 1DII/n. Owned several of them, and will likely never get rid of the one last copy remaining. I love the fast performance, dead-on focus accuracy, and image quality. But it is not, as you well know, a "low light" camera.

Unfortunately, I believe that virtually any APS-C camera is going to disappoint for low noise. I shot the 60D up to 3200, but no further. The 70D could be pushed to 6400, but I didn't like it.

I would recommend a 6D. It contrasts very nicely with the 1DIIn as a camera built less for speed and more for just fabulous image quality. It is aging very gracefully, having found a solid niche in the photography world among both enthusiasts and professionals. And, of course, it's great in low light. I'd routinely push it to 6400 and 12,800 with no problem.

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