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jeff hladun said:

tHe sHaDoW aND tHe sPiDeR
jeff hladun said:
For those who haven't seen these, you are in for a treat - a sample of Ant's special eye...
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This appears as if it was shot on a movie set. Kind of ruins it for me, in terms of street cred...

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You look at all the photos Ant posted and this is the only comment you can make?



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Touching Ant, touching.

We shoot for ourselves Ant, its just another bit of that 10% I`ve been billowing on about in this thread, we can even shoot ourselves, its nice been a messenger every once in a while.
 
andrenth said:
I'm going on a little trip tomorrow. Five years of marriage :)

I'll write you next week.

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Oh ...I'm taken back a little that you told me, something so special too. Lyn and I are 33years just last month and we are the same as when I met her ...well except that she can roll her eyes much better at me ...and after so much practice.

Congratuations both of you, and have a wonderful time and I hope it is every day you are congratulated for. There are some that congratulate you like it was another day in prison, but I mean the congratulations for being people that are worth knowing each other.

...no street photos either, you leave that thing in its bag unless it is pointed at her.

Congrats mate, see you when you get back.

ant
 
Paulmorgan said:
Touching Ant, touching.

We shoot for ourselves Ant, its just another bit of that 10% I`ve been billowing on about in this thread, we can even shoot ourselves, its nice been a messenger every once in a while.
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lol ...did I get through that super thick skin of yours?
Wait till the trolls find it, they love this stuff.

...lol
 
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namatet said:
Paulmorgan said:
Touching Ant, touching.

We shoot for ourselves Ant, its just another bit of that 10% I`ve been billowing on about in this thread, we can even shoot ourselves, its nice been a messenger every once in a while.
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lol ...did I get through that super thick skin of yours?
Wait till the trolls find it, they love this stuff.

...lol
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:)
 
skanter said:
jeff hladun said:

tHe sHaDoW aND tHe sPiDeR
skanter said:
For those who haven't seen these, you are in for a treat - a sample of Ant's special eye...
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This appears as if it was shot on a movie set. Kind of ruins it for me, in terms of street cred...

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You look at all the photos Ant posted and this is the only comment you can make?
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Yes, because I cannot say with certainty that it was shot on a movie set, a video set, or in some otherwise artificial environment.

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WOW! All these words !! Mate.

Well worth the few I spent starting off line with a question or two ..

Mystery solved for me .. I am satisfied ! You are Australian ! (grin)

Byee! mate........
 
clifford37 said:
WOW! All these words !! Mate.

Well worth the few I spent starting off line with a question or two ..

Mystery solved for me .. I am satisfied ! You are Australian ! (grin)

Byee! mate........
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no worries Clifford, had a feeling you had some questions. All the words, yea, like the Aussie flies mate.

cheers.
 
....."had a feeling you had some questions" .....

I had questions if you had feelings ! (grin) Mate
 
jeff hladun said:
skanter said:
jeff hladun said:

tHe sHaDoW aND tHe sPiDeR
jeff hladun said:
For those who haven't seen these, you are in for a treat - a sample of Ant's special eye...
Click to expand...
This appears as if it was shot on a movie set. Kind of ruins it for me, in terms of street cred...

--
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You look at all the photos Ant posted and this is the only comment you can make?
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Yes, because I cannot say with certainty that it was shot on a movie set, a video set, or in some otherwise artificial environment.

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Jeff, perhaps you misunderstood my question, so I'll reiterate:

Of the 18 photos Ant posted, the only response you had was a post questioning the legitimacy of one of them as a street photo?

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Sam K., NYC
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CURRENT AND ARCHIVED STREET PHOTOGRAPHY - Sam Kanter

iN DATE ORDER, NEWEST ON TOP - Prints available for purchase with BUY button or contact: [email protected]
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“A camera is a tool for learning how to see without a camera.”
-Dorothea Lange
 
skanter said:
jeff hladun said:
skanter said:
jeff hladun said:

tHe sHaDoW aND tHe sPiDeR
skanter said:
For those who haven't seen these, you are in for a treat - a sample of Ant's special eye...
Click to expand...
This appears as if it was shot on a movie set. Kind of ruins it for me, in terms of street cred...

--
Click to expand...
You look at all the photos Ant posted and this is the only comment you can make?
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Yes, because I cannot say with certainty that it was shot on a movie set, a video set, or in some otherwise artificial environment.

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Jeff, perhaps you misunderstood my question, so I'll reiterate:

Of the 18 photos Ant posted, the only response you had was a post questioning the legitimacy of one of them as a street photo?
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well this is weird Sam ...he is not anyone's critic, I don't even care and can read the same books he does and likely already have. This is not the off-Topic mate, you seem to be trying to start something with my photo mate. I didn't post these so you could squabble, that over there mate ...with the other squabblers ... lol
 
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namatet said:
skanter said:
jeff hladun said:
skanter said:
jeff hladun said:

tHe sHaDoW aND tHe sPiDeR
Member said:
For those who haven't seen these, you are in for a treat - a sample of Ant's special eye...
Click to expand...
This appears as if it was shot on a movie set. Kind of ruins it for me, in terms of street cred...

--
Click to expand...
You look at all the photos Ant posted and this is the only comment you can make?
Click to expand...
Yes, because I cannot say with certainty that it was shot on a movie set, a video set, or in some otherwise artificial environment.

--
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Jeff, perhaps you misunderstood my question, so I'll reiterate:

Of the 18 photos Ant posted, the only response you had was a post questioning the legitimacy of one of them as a street photo?
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well this is weird Sam ...he is not anyone's critic, I don't even care and can read the same books he does and likely already have. This is not the off-Topic mate, you seem to be trying to start something with my photo mate. I didn't post these so you could squabble, that over there mate ...with the other squabblers ... lol
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No Ant - I must be missing something. You posted 18 photos and it seems jeff's reaction was only to question the legitimacy of this one? Is that not correct? I found that somewhat incredible.

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skanter said:
No Ant - I must be missing something. You posted 18 photos and it seems jeff's reaction was only to question the legitimacy of this one? Is that not correct? I found that somewhat incredible.
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...ummmm OK?

Listen, the critics, no one should care, and moreso the knowledgeable ones, thats the whole point of what I wrote, well a part of it. If they are not improving the photographer then they are never improving the photograph, its already taken mate, how do they fix that. Not a question, dont want an answer, there is no answer.

Straighten this, go a bit left, the pp critiques are good, too dark, too light, but this other stuff means nothing. Thats why I don't do them, but if someone wants to know if it is something you or I might like, well show us that so we can enjoy it and tell them so instead of dissecting it like some dead rat ...on a table.

I am not fond of critics, lol, I actually have some favourites of my own but I don't like the on-line critiques that criticize a photo in a way that affects the direction of the photographer. Not good, really not good. It is hard not to do it because you want the photographer to do his or her best too but here ....its just a bun-fight.
 
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skanter said:
jeff hladun said:
skanter said:
jeff hladun said:

tHe sHaDoW aND tHe sPiDeR
skanter said:
For those who haven't seen these, you are in for a treat - a sample of Ant's special eye...
Click to expand...
This appears as if it was shot on a movie set. Kind of ruins it for me, in terms of street cred...

--
Click to expand...
You look at all the photos Ant posted and this is the only comment you can make?
Click to expand...
Yes, because I cannot say with certainty that it was shot on a movie set, a video set, or in some otherwise artificial environment.

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Jeff, perhaps you misunderstood my question, so I'll reiterate:

Of the 18 photos Ant posted, the only response you had was a post questioning the legitimacy of one of them as a street photo?
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Yes. Exactly right.

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Is it possible for those of us who missed the images, to see them please? I guess you removed them from your gallery because I can not see them.

Thanks
 
Daedalus2000 said:
Is it possible for those of us who missed the images, to see them please? I guess you removed them from your gallery because I can not see them.

Thanks
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I can't, they and one in particular was being abused as if in a fight. I stopped showing them a long time ago and have only shown them now because they have been seen before and one of them was made less than what it was worth. I am truly sorry, I wish I could, I shouldn't have shown them this time and as it turned out it was only to confirm some kind of perception of authority someone wanted and not any appreciation of them at all. Maybe later you might find them somewhere else. Its not that I dont want to show them and make new friends or that they are too good to be seen, it is that I cannot control their use once they are on-line.

I had one stolen once, after a written agreement and it was used to sell their brand of lenses. Their art design person wanted it so badly that they made tremendous promises in writing that could dissolve and then once they had my confidence in them, they took it and edited out my title of ownership, my name and everything, and even renamed the file. All so they could cut it up and turn it into a banner for their site and to make them look good in their job and to improve their product in sales ...it was how they got their photographs and they gave mine to everyone freely as if they were not even a photographic company, ....as if a photograph from their own customer was worth nothing. The financial loss was staggering, a sale for $8k and for its new owner a new career for himself as well. It even stopped my advancing career because I could no longer control my own property and had to become more protective of it.

When I told them why it was important, their Customer Care person, a senior person in the company laughed, but his voice was nervous ...he already knew, but because he had no reason to be afraid and especially not when you have a Legal department that had it all worked out. I told him about my son before he laughed. I told him he could record my call as he scrambled across his desk to put what I suspected was his cell phone against my voice.

I even expect that when they discover how much it is really worth they will will want to take it again, but only because it belongs to my son and only because they can take whatever they like and then set their legal department on anything that moves or is trying to live.

a long answer I'm sorry, is only because I want others to be more cautious about their photographs, that there are traps made waiting for them. It is not a discussion and I will not say any more and will not be questioned on anything.

ant.
 
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Hi namatet, I can imagine feeling alone in crowd of people, if nobody of them is known or friend and so. I feel I am uptake, I can not walk like normally, I am hunting and concentrating what could be motive for a picture.

Sad feelings can come when I compare my pictures to other photographers pictures and can feel, mine are worthless. I had once high ambitions, what I have reached today, not much.

Other day I can feel, I have something and some good pictures that I stand for, can sign with my name, they are better than I ever could expect of me, they are not world class, if nobody like them, I like some of them anyway. My feelings vary this way between plus and minus.

You mention, street is hardest style, where have you heart that, and how do you feel about it ? How about war photoraphers, or newspaper photograph who goes to place where has been accident, crime or flooding, earthqueke. Nature photograph in djungle among dangerous deceases, animals, insects, snakes and mines etc , , jouni
 
jouni123 said:
Hi namatet, I can imagine feeling alone in crowd of people, if nobody of them is known or friend and so. I feel I am uptake, I can not walk like normally, I am hunting and concentrating what could be motive for a picture.

Sad feelings can come when I compare my pictures to other photographers pictures and can feel, mine are worthless. I had once high ambitions, what I have reached today, not much.

Other day I can feel, I have something and some good pictures that I stand for, can sign with my name, they are better than I ever could expect of me, they are not world class, if nobody like them, I like some of them anyway. My feelings vary this way between plus and minus.

You mention, street is hardest style, where have you heart that, and how do you feel about it ? How about war photoraphers, or newspaper photograph who goes to place where has been accident, crime or flooding, earthqueke. Nature photograph in djungle among dangerous deceases, animals, insects, snakes and mines etc , , jouni
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It kills you inside, changes you, street photography ends up being one of your escape`s.
 
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