Do you ride your own back ...?

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There's the luck needed for the photographic elements to be presented to the street photographer and then the skill to be able to recognise them (some wouldn't look for them in same place or see them) and then make the best capture of them, being able to visualise (from experience) how it could turn out.

Some shots are plain lucky in my experience but anyone's portfolio would be very slim if it only had lucky shots in it.

That's my take :)
Street photography 90% luck, your not in control of it, it controls you, your not controlling those random momentary elements" that that roll in, gel together and create that magic.
But, Paul, the photographer has to be there, find, SEE, be ready, frame, capture, PP, present those "random, momentary elements". They are not there for everyone to see, only those who are able. And learning how to SEE may take a lifetime. Not really much luck or randomness involved.
Again, the other 10% (its up to you)
I'm afraid you have it backwards - chance is 10%, the photographer's ability to see it and make a photograph - 90%.
For you maybe, for me I see it as being the other way around with that last 10% being the toughest, its all or nothing, its what you do here that effects the other 90%, reminds me a little of this Jeff Mermelstein quote.

"In street photography, you gotta have luck, but there’s a lot of work involved in order to be lucky”
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Sam K., NYC
http://skanter.smugmug.com/NYC-Street-Photography
“A camera is a tool for learning how to see without a camera.”
-Dorothea Lange
 
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even if I cannot convince any of you ...Easy should buy this book. I wish I could buy it for him and for everyone else.
I had the same idea, use my favourite of my own photos and write stories / interconnected stories based on them. Might get round to it one day. Writing is hard for me, it takes so much of a person and I'm not set up for it space wise and time wise at the moment. It's a second self you have to build around the self that does the stuff to pay the bills.

I only look at photo books once or twice a year and then have to let the images compost. You sometimes mention that you see so many images (like you said about the recent one with the reflections you commented on) you sometimes need to clear your memory etc.

I'm the same but worse. I look at too many and I find it impossible to 'do my own thing' or find my own way when I go out with my camera and waste a lot of time trying to recreate rather than create.

Each time I go out with my camera the world needs to be a mystery afresh, with no preconceived notions on my part about what type of photo I might take so I have to not look at too many after some initial viewing and inspiration.

I love his photo of the man with the green bow tie in that video! That is simply a stunner, a real stunner!

I'll never have a thing ready or done in at least the next five years, I have too much else to sort out. I don't mind.
I do this a lot with my own roots being in doc, with both my own pictures and when I see others,

Doc smacks you in the face with facts, street on the other hand sometimes leaves you to dream or imagine and your looking for some kind of story be it fiction or fantasy to fit or fill in the gaps.

This book interest me a lot, I`d be seeing the photographers own interpretation, it a really important book for street photography as a whole (as Ant says)
 
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Love to see some of your shots mate??

Can you give a link mate.. or even post some hereabouts ???(grin)
 
There's the luck needed for the photographic elements to be presented to the street photographer and then the skill to be able to recognise them (some wouldn't look for them in same place or see them) and then make the best capture of them, being able to visualise (from experience) how it could turn out.

Some shots are plain lucky in my experience but anyone's portfolio would be very slim if it only had lucky shots in it.

That's my take :)
Street photography 90% luck, your not in control of it, it controls you, your not controlling those random momentary elements" that that roll in, gel together and create that magic.
But, Paul, the photographer has to be there, find, SEE, be ready, frame, capture, PP, present those "random, momentary elements". They are not there for everyone to see, only those who are able. And learning how to SEE may take a lifetime. Not really much luck or randomness involved.
Again, the other 10% (its up to you)
I'm afraid you have it backwards - chance is 10%, the photographer's ability to see it and make a photograph - 90%.
For you maybe, for me I see it as being the other way around with that last 10% being the toughest, its all or nothing, its what you do here that effects the other 90%,
Then we are not saying anything different. You are saying that the 90% luck is easy, the last 10% (seeing) essential or the 90% is useless.
reminds me a little of this Jeff Mermelstein quote.

"In street photography, you gotta have luck, but there’s a lot of work involved in order to be lucky”
Yes. It's like life - there are always opportunities, but we must be ready to take advantage of them. And, we must often "make our own luck". Interesting how some fine photographers are "always lucky", and most are never lucky. :-)
 
There's the luck needed for the photographic elements to be presented to the street photographer and then the skill to be able to recognise them (some wouldn't look for them in same place or see them) and then make the best capture of them, being able to visualise (from experience) how it could turn out.

Some shots are plain lucky in my experience but anyone's portfolio would be very slim if it only had lucky shots in it.

That's my take :)
Street photography 90% luck, your not in control of it, it controls you, your not controlling those random momentary elements" that that roll in, gel together and create that magic.
But, Paul, the photographer has to be there, find, SEE, be ready, frame, capture, PP, present those "random, momentary elements". They are not there for everyone to see, only those who are able. And learning how to SEE may take a lifetime. Not really much luck or randomness involved.
Again, the other 10% (its up to you)
I'm afraid you have it backwards - chance is 10%, the photographer's ability to see it and make a photograph - 90%.
For you maybe, for me I see it as being the other way around with that last 10% being the toughest, its all or nothing, its what you do here that effects the other 90%,
Then we are not saying anything different. You are saying that the 90% luck is easy,
No it can be very difficult (the 90%) its not as if you can make it or even control it, if the elements are not there you have nothing, its a blank canvas, you may as well go home, go and cook a bird or something, the luck is what happens on the street, its not about you, your skills or your camera, the luck is what happens around you, the stuff you have no control over.
the last 10% (seeing) essential or the 90% is useless.
The last 10% is you, your eye, your skill, your timing etc etc, its this final 10% that matters, it makes or brakes that other 90% and its the final essential part in the puzzle that separates one photographer from another.

But this is me. your ideas differ from mine.

I don`t mean to sound dogmatic :)
reminds me a little of this Jeff Mermelstein quote.

"In street photography, you gotta have luck, but there’s a lot of work involved in order to be lucky”
Yes. It's like life - there are always opportunities, but we must be ready to take advantage of them. And, we must often "make our own luck". Interesting how some fine photographers are "always lucky", and most are never lucky. :-)

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Sam K., NYC
http://skanter.smugmug.com/NYC-Street-Photography
“A camera is a tool for learning how to see without a camera.”
-Dorothea Lange
 
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I write stories as well for all my photographs, I believe I even predate Stephen but its not a unique thing as he says in his video ...there is an old history and goes back as far as painting in caves, I think the first was a fellow Aussie 16,000 years ago


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My desk, my chair, my life was in that corner.
I never noticed the shadow and the spider is new.

Someone is tapping their finger on the table.
They are all here.
I watch the ink soak into the paper too quick to watch it dry.
Like them the paper is impatient and thirsty.

My desk, my chair, my life in that corner,
now belongs to the shadow and the spider.

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Melbourne. Australia
 
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Ant, it's always such a pleasure to see your work. Some of these photos I've known for years, like "The shadow and the spider", which are forever engraved in my mind. Some work that I haven't seen before too, I'll spend a few days looking.

Your work is like fine art street, it's so different from everything. You're like the street photographer of the streets from fairy tales.

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Andre
 
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I mostly use film now, there ones are my first photographs, taken over a period of 72 days. One day I didn't get anything so I dont count it. I have a lot more from that time, never counted them, ...maybe two hundred, I'm not sure.
I show these ones because I have shown them before, my newer work can only be seen if you visit me and buy me a beer.

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For those who haven't seen these, you are in for a treat - a sample of Ant's special eye...

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Sam K., NYC
“A camera is a tool for learning how to see without a camera.”
-Dorothea Lange
 
I mostly use film now, there ones are my first photographs, taken over a period of 72 days. One day I didn't get anything so I dont count it. I have a lot more from that time, never counted them, ...maybe two hundred, I'm not sure.
I show these ones because I have shown them before, my newer work can only be seen if you visit me and buy me a beer.

ant
Good is that, film I mean.

Its been about 4 years since a last bought anything digital, not even so much as a lens.

The older ways still pull me.
 
The Dandelion is fab, And the shadow and the spider.

And the legs, I love the legs (I would.) ;)
 
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For those who haven't seen these, you are in for a treat - a sample of Ant's special eye...
This appears as if it was shot on a movie set. Kind of ruins it for me, in terms of street cred...

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I show these ones because I have shown them before, my newer work can only be seen if you visit me and buy me a beer.
Well now. I wonder how much eucalyptus I'd need to bribe one of those koalas. You know, peek through a window, take shot of your the photos on your wall... could be using his cell, I wouldn't mind.
 

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For those who haven't seen these, you are in for a treat - a sample of Ant's special eye...
This appears as if it was shot on a movie set. Kind of ruins it for me, in terms of street cred...
This is my most treasured photograph, I took it on my son's birthday. The night before, I was in his room and having a conversation along the lines of ...you can do anything you dream.
It had to be about a dream because he cannot leave his room and has to stay there and in the dark. Any stray light, even the catchlight of a bright reflection off my glasses ...or the slightest breeze like a soft breath against my cheek, and he will be sent into the most miserable pain in the existence of anyone living. It isn't that he even needs to think about the pain as some might think about an ache in a neck, or a back or a leg, or a heart. instead it is in a place that begins even before you can give it a thought. He is my child that has grown without me being able to think about how much he has grown, into a man that has never left his room.

The pain can last for days, but I forget, my pain is much longer and is just a memory now because his pain is lasting more than the year. He is so brilliant, a brilliant mind and so innocent that he still thinks the world is beautiful, and so tall and a proof that I am not so small. He is blonde and blue like someone in my dreams. He is everything I ever wanted. I can hear him in his room, I heard him just now, his room is behind that wall just there, right there behind my monitor. He is in trouble and is in my mind like the ugly thing in his, and it destroys me and leaves nothing of me for my own, except my photograph.

He turned his light off, that is what I heard, its 11:23am which has a funny relevance to this photo, it just happened then, I took it at :23 ...have a look, (lol). That is the only way he can get away from his creature, to laugh at silly things that are not so silly at all, but he is finding that difficult too, I am afraid that the next thing we will do to him will be to sedate him, the anti-depressants do that, they make him dozey in a head that makes him forget how to use the door when he goes to the bathroom and maybe next we will arrange it so that he never leaves his room. At least he has that now, he can go to the bathroom and sometimes I see him from my chair as he walks like a ghost between his room and the next. Everyone complains at why I have put my desk here, Lyn wants to redecorate me ...move me to another part but I can see perfectly from here while I make my photographs.

He can't come out to look, he is two meters away from my arms and my fingers that pound the keys. The light is too bright and we are in a house that is already dark, the windows are closed and covered, and not a stray puff of wind or even a bright LED on an appliance anywhere.

That he turned his light off and I took this photo at the same minutes is why these little photographs can be so precious to us without anyone ever knowing what they really are about and that its meaning keeps growing like a plant that never flowers. These photographs are about ourselves and this is something totally unique to street photography, it does not exist in any other genre. Oh yes they think the photograph has their likeness but in Street Photography ...its you, it is absolutely you and not a likeness at all. I cannot believe that in the entire history of Street Photography no one has ever been able to tell you this, you have been told it a hundred times but you never understood what it means.

I was rushing home to Jake's birthday party, a private little affair of fairy bread and sweets because he has no friends. This thing that was said between us, is in this photograph, it is a message and something that we talked about, and we laughed.

I smile when I look at this photograph. I only have one photograph of Jake, I took it in the dark and afterward I had to slide the exposure slider and the brightness all the way to the right until I could just barely see. It is the worst photograph that I have ever taken, and I can never say it is my favourite because it is my only one of him. Instead I have to say it is this one instead.

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"As if struck by an idea" is fantastic. I selected the other ones because they reminded me of NIck Turpin's work, "Through a glass darkly". Have you seen it?

http://nickturpin.com/portfolio/winter-bus/

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Andre
I put a link up about NT a few days ago, not the same link, just a link to a story about this same project, nice pics.
we are not alike Andre, we are nothing the same, I dont even know if Nick has any hair. No, I dont look at Nick, I'm too busy looking at you. If I had his book I would look at him but I don't. Later I would buy his book, absolutely I would buy it, and all of the ones that don't buy books and the ones that steal the electronic ones as if they were just an inferior copy ...they all need to learn to buy books too. What a mess the world is ...half of it doesn't even know how to be half decent and what it is like to have real friends, and they are lonely and sad and made worthless but it is ok, because they have all these things worth nothing because they are stolen. lol

You only look at him because he markets at you ...that way the internet markets people on fb and everywhere. I dont even have a website lol ...and neither should you, well except for you to visit and play your music, and enyoy them online ...and for friends, like me, to visit too.

Later, but soon I will try to convince you to print them instead, not yet, a little longer and I will convince you then ...and you won't look like Nick Turpin either

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