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I have an opportunity coming up to photograph a large piece of architecture, and so have been stewing how best to do it.

What i received yesterday was a Sigma 15mm EX DG Fisheye F2.8. BHphoto only has the version for Sigma mount or Canon.

a. Weights about 332gms

b. 180 deg view

c. I'm using it on an MC-11 adapter with an A7rII

d. It manually focuses great with just the right amount of resistance to movement - no wireless here.

d. Sigma makes small med and large fisheyes from about 5mm, 8mm and finally this 15mm. I highly recommend the large 15 and it is the most popular i read somewhere - prob. on the BH site.

With the MC-11 converter, its well behaved. You hear a sort of pleasant low-pitched whirring sound and it focuses. It has the normal amount of LAEA3 functions including the continuous AF with tracking. However, i've noticed that while it focuses fine when the focus point is near the center of the frame, if you're more than a little bit off center, it starts to have difficulty focusing. I assume this has something to do with it being a fisheye. Its not a Sigma ART lens so it defaults to the LAEA3 type of functions. I've used the MC-11 with Canon 85 f1.8, Canon 17-40 and now this Sigma 15 fisheye and it always has worked consistently with no crashes.

Why should one consider a fisheye. Well for me, i think its the ultimate wide angle lens. With LIghtroom, i put in the Sigma make and enter the 15mm, and it automatically gives me the options. There's a distortion slider that lets one go from the normal fisheye look to the defished look, an example follow. In the balloon picture, the colors have been unaltered and one review cited how nice the colors were straight out of the camera - true! It'll be interesting to try this in a wooded environment.

Please join in for anyone having experience with fisheyes on our A7X cameras. Why didn't i go with Canon's 8-15 fisheye? Well its a bit heavier and its "only" F4. This Sigma is about the size of the FE 55, which is an advantage to me.



Sigma Fished
Sigma Fished



Sigma Defished
Sigma Defished



Colors are great right from lens
Colors are great right from lens

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Phil B
 

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It might just be me, but I find 15 too narrow for a fisheye look that I find pleasing. I like the Rokinon 8 fisheye on my APS-C sensor, but that's a 12mm fisheye on FF. I can't see myself ever going with the 15mm fisheye look, and if I am going to go with the corrected look every time then I might as well just get the Voigtlander 15, which produces images I really like. But that's just my eyes and if you're happy with the look then you appear to have found a winner.
 
It might just be me, but I find 15 too narrow for a fisheye look that I find pleasing. I like the Rokinon 8 fisheye on my APS-C sensor, but that's a 12mm fisheye on FF. I can't see myself ever going with the 15mm fisheye look, and if I am going to go with the corrected look every time then I might as well just get the Voigtlander 15, which produces images I really like. But that's just my eyes and if you're happy with the look then you appear to have found a winner.
Yep, its a subjective thing - i get that. But as you pointed out, your 8 mm fisheye has the view of a 12mm on FF, which is not that far from a 15mm fisheye, i'm thinking. I really like that LR allows one to vary the amount of fisheye with a slider.


Phil B
 
It might just be me, but I find 15 too narrow for a fisheye look that I find pleasing. I like the Rokinon 8 fisheye on my APS-C sensor, but that's a 12mm fisheye on FF. I can't see myself ever going with the 15mm fisheye look, and if I am going to go with the corrected look every time then I might as well just get the Voigtlander 15, which produces images I really like. But that's just my eyes and if you're happy with the look then you appear to have found a winner.
Hi, nowadays just for a change and fun, I want to buy a fisheye lens too. My question is, since the lens is manual focus, while using the Rokinon 12 Fisheye lens on a A7RII camera, will I have a focus support? Such as focused areas highlighted or close up view while trying to manual focus?
 
It might just be me, but I find 15 too narrow for a fisheye look that I find pleasing. I like the Rokinon 8 fisheye on my APS-C sensor, but that's a 12mm fisheye on FF. I can't see myself ever going with the 15mm fisheye look, and if I am going to go with the corrected look every time then I might as well just get the Voigtlander 15, which produces images I really like. But that's just my eyes and if you're happy with the look then you appear to have found a winner.
Hi, nowadays just for a change and fun, I want to buy a fisheye lens too. My question is, since the lens is manual focus, while using the Rokinon 12 Fisheye lens on a A7RII camera, will I have a focus support? Such as focused areas highlighted or close up view while trying to manual focus?
Yes, you will still have focus peaking. I don't believe you'll get close up view automatically, but you can manually activate it with a button.
 
It might just be me, but I find 15 too narrow for a fisheye look that I find pleasing. I like the Rokinon 8 fisheye on my APS-C sensor, but that's a 12mm fisheye on FF. I can't see myself ever going with the 15mm fisheye look, and if I am going to go with the corrected look every time then I might as well just get the Voigtlander 15, which produces images I really like. But that's just my eyes and if you're happy with the look then you appear to have found a winner.
Yep, its a subjective thing - i get that. But as you pointed out, your 8 mm fisheye has the view of a 12mm on FF, which is not that far from a 15mm fisheye, i'm thinking. I really like that LR allows one to vary the amount of fisheye with a slider.

Phil B
For rectilinear, 12mm vs. 15mm is a big difference.

Fisheye is weird though. The Rokinon 8mm on APS-C is quoted as 167 degree coverage, and the Sigma 15mm on FF quotes 180 degree coverage... *shrug*
 
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It might just be me, but I find 15 too narrow for a fisheye look that I find pleasing. I like the Rokinon 8 fisheye on my APS-C sensor, but that's a 12mm fisheye on FF. I can't see myself ever going with the 15mm fisheye look, and if I am going to go with the corrected look every time then I might as well just get the Voigtlander 15, which produces images I really like. But that's just my eyes and if you're happy with the look then you appear to have found a winner.
Yep, its a subjective thing - i get that. But as you pointed out, your 8 mm fisheye has the view of a 12mm on FF, which is not that far from a 15mm fisheye, i'm thinking. I really like that LR allows one to vary the amount of fisheye with a slider.

Phil B
For rectilinear, 12mm vs. 15mm is a big difference.

Fisheye is weird though. The Rokinon 8mm on APS-C is quoted as 167 degree coverage, and the Sigma 15mm on FF quotes 180 degree coverage... *shrug*
My Rokinon 8/2.8 fisheye lens is quoted at 180 degree coverage: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1039940-REG/rokinon_rk8mbk28_e_8mm_f_2_8_umc_fish_eye.html

The Sigma 15 fisheye is also 180, so that is shrug-worthy.
 
It might just be me, but I find 15 too narrow for a fisheye look that I find pleasing. I like the Rokinon 8 fisheye on my APS-C sensor, but that's a 12mm fisheye on FF. I can't see myself ever going with the 15mm fisheye look, and if I am going to go with the corrected look every time then I might as well just get the Voigtlander 15, which produces images I really like. But that's just my eyes and if you're happy with the look then you appear to have found a winner.
Yep, its a subjective thing - i get that. But as you pointed out, your 8 mm fisheye has the view of a 12mm on FF, which is not that far from a 15mm fisheye, i'm thinking. I really like that LR allows one to vary the amount of fisheye with a slider.

Phil B
For rectilinear, 12mm vs. 15mm is a big difference.

Fisheye is weird though. The Rokinon 8mm on APS-C is quoted as 167 degree coverage, and the Sigma 15mm on FF quotes 180 degree coverage... *shrug*
My Rokinon 8/2.8 fisheye lens is quoted at 180 degree coverage: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1039940-REG/rokinon_rk8mbk28_e_8mm_f_2_8_umc_fish_eye.html

The Sigma 15 fisheye is also 180, so that is shrug-worthy.
Hah, I was probably wasn't paying attention and looking at the specs for the Canon mount with their different crop factor!
 
I'm a big fan of fisheye lenses. I wrote an article about fisheye lenses a while ago on Petapixel:

http://petapixel.com/2016/06/27/7-reasons-fisheye-lenses-awesome/

Feel free to let me know your thoughts.
Very good article. I like the tips for using fisheye. My brother's been using a fisheye for a few years now, and i especially like those of his where its difficult for me to be sure a fisheye was used. When he takes advantage of natural landscaping to increase what's already there, then it becomes more attractive to me. And i think you said something similar when you discussed taking advantage of curved surfaces.
 
It might just be me, but I find 15 too narrow for a fisheye look that I find pleasing. I like the Rokinon 8 fisheye on my APS-C sensor, but that's a 12mm fisheye on FF. I can't see myself ever going with the 15mm fisheye look, and if I am going to go with the corrected look every time then I might as well just get the Voigtlander 15, which produces images I really like. But that's just my eyes and if you're happy with the look then you appear to have found a winner.
Hi, nowadays just for a change and fun, I want to buy a fisheye lens too. My question is, since the lens is manual focus, while using the Rokinon 12 Fisheye lens on a A7RII camera, will I have a focus support? Such as focused areas highlighted or close up view while trying to manual focus?
Yes, you will still have focus peaking. I don't believe you'll get close up view automatically, but you can manually activate it with a button.
Just got the Samyang :-)) thanks for the feedback.

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