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How much is your time worth?
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yardcoyote
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I'm still at the point where I discard so many of my images as utter failures than an extra 1% just gets lost in the noise.
My four-thirds experience is limited to the E-300 and E-450 models. The E-300 took a bit of work, but the E-450 incorporated some outstanding features into its in-camera JPEG engine (such as their shadow adjustment technology that could be accessed by setting gradation to auto) that gave me out-of-camera images that looked great with no post-processing at all.
Chris Wolfgram
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About $1000 per hour... the problem is finding somebody who will pay me that much for it
Seriously though, the funny thing is, I already shoot full frame and yet I still spend all kinds of time bracketing shots, and some time mitigating noise.....
Chris Wolfgram
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Speaking for myself, I usually can't wait to get home to play with my days (or nights) work. ☺ As far as my time in the field goes, sure, I love being out in nature, on a warm sunny day, but then again, it's not always warm and sunny..... it might well be cold and miserable.... or, I can be standing on a bridge overpass with vehicles ripping past me in the dark, or in an area that I could be robbed, gear stolen, shot, etc.... and so there have been plenty times when getting home and playing with my shots from the outing, are the time I can finally actually relax and have fun ☺
Two things... Firstly FF is all things being equal going to have more exposure latitude than smaller formats.... period. Still, I see it as mater of degree becuase the tech is so good that even smaller formats are capable of great perfomance and there's the benfit that for a lot of us who like to shoot spontaiously and bring a camera wherever we go, we can go much lighter and have the camera with us more of the time than if we were lugging bigger gear... which means that we're geting some shots that we woudn't have even gotten had we had the bigger stuff (that likely would be left at home more of the time).
Secondly, there are folks like me who consider the pp part to be an enjoyable part of the process, rather than a chore to be avoided. I like the "process" aspect to photorgahy and am not really intested in instant gratification. Compared to other visual mediums, ie painting, drawing, etc photograhy is very "instant" and I really like to spend more time with the images rather than less... I like to feel that I've "made" a photo rather than simpy taken it.
Thirdly, I happen to like the challege of getting great images with smaller gear. You need to be more precise with it, but I like that. Same as folks who fish with lighter gear... more fun in the long run to pull in the big fish with the light takcle, if you can learn to do it that way.
contadorfan
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At least he was on his feet, scurrying about a darkroom. The last thing I need is another pastime that entails sitting on my butt for hours (cycling excepted).
I don't mind post processing small batches of photos, up to, say, 50. But coming home from a week's vacation with 700 photos to post process is no fun.
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yardcoyote
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My days of standing on bridge overpasses in the dark and venturing into sketchy neighborhoods are long over. The most daring thing I do at this point in my life is walkaround at twilight wearing a high visibility vest that I'm sure makes me look like a big old fool. Most if the night shooting I do is in my own yard.
You do have a good point. I'm sure if I was answering this question in late February, I would be spending a lot more time in the studio front of FastStone and less time behind the camera.
You do have a good point. I'm sure if I was answering this question in late February, I would be spending a lot more time in the studio front of FastStone and less time behind the camera.
n3eg
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I use m4/3, and I don't spend much time at all with PP - unless I'm posting a photo for all you huge sensor pixelpoopers to see.
Martin.au
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How long does it take? If it takes ages, then that's understandable, but may also mean that it is worth looking at ways to speed it up.
tko
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I've never thought the purpose of photography was to save time. FF takes more effort doing post because the results are worth it. I've never post processed a cell phone photo (and yes, I do take them) because the results are worth it.
Post is a living, breathing part of photography. Enjoy it.
Post is a living, breathing part of photography. Enjoy it.
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tko
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Finally someone who agrees.
I get to experience everything twice. Once is the joy and concentration of shooting. The second is reliving the experience on the computer. No, I don't do post on thousands of images at a time. I'm lucky to come back w/a dozen good ones, but I really like working on those.
Better than watching TV or doing stuff other people consider relaxing.
Mike Ronesia
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Those are billable hours so they are worth a lot!
I didn't read all the posts but...
I have no idea what all this processing time is everyone talks about. I take the RAW files from my 7 year old DSLR into Nikon ViewNX and maybe bring up the shadows a bit, crop to my liking, save it as a jpg and everyone can see my cat pictures on Facebook pretty quick.
I have no idea what all this processing time is everyone talks about. I take the RAW files from my 7 year old DSLR into Nikon ViewNX and maybe bring up the shadows a bit, crop to my liking, save it as a jpg and everyone can see my cat pictures on Facebook pretty quick.
chipmaster
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Sometime it isn't how much your time is worth, it is how much will someone else wait ;-)
The entire concept of 'time worth' is absurd when applied to a hobby. Now if you are a pro who wants to deliver images to a client in the least amount of time possible so you can go fishing, then yeah - you want to invest in most dependable, most effective gear that lets you get the needed result that much faster - and will likely develop the most efficient post-processing workflow.
Only to spend hour upon hour of your highly valuable time on the lake shore with a $3000 fishing rod, when same exact fish can be bought at a store in five minutes for $6/lb.
Sure, many hobbies might have aspects that one doesn't enjoy as much, in which case one might choose to 'farm them out'. I.e. many fishing areas have businesses that will, for a fee, clean and bone your catch.
Only to spend hour upon hour of your highly valuable time on the lake shore with a $3000 fishing rod, when same exact fish can be bought at a store in five minutes for $6/lb.
Sure, many hobbies might have aspects that one doesn't enjoy as much, in which case one might choose to 'farm them out'. I.e. many fishing areas have businesses that will, for a fee, clean and bone your catch.
MinAZ
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I can't say for anyone else, but for me it is irrelevant as I have never bought a 1" sensor camera thinking that I could adjust it to compare with FF output in post. I wouldn't even attempt it - the reason for 1" is compactness and I knowingly trade IQ for that. Yes, it is possible to stitch together images for higher quality, but as you say, it is probably easier just to carry a FF in that case.
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