Help please, with hummingbird ID

DavidAT

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This has stumped my more knowledgable friends. Broad-tailed or Calliope, or something else. Taken in Colorado this week





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Looks like a female Anna's that we get here in So. Calif.
 
I can't help you with a ID but I like your photo. I'm assuming you used flash from the shutter speed. You nailed the focus, something that is hard at 600mm on one of these birds at the distance you were shooting.

I keep trying to get something like what you shot with my 7d2 100-400 or with that and a 1.4xiii. Can't seem to get the focus nailed though my camera can work the magic on other birds. I keep trying, it is a challenge and I don't have to go anywhere other than the front yard.
 
Maybe a young Rufous (this one has some rust coloration on its belly)? I believe their range is a little broader than the Anna's.
 
I can't help you with a ID but I like your photo. I'm assuming you used flash from the shutter speed. You nailed the focus, something that is hard at 600mm on one of these birds at the distance you were shooting.
Yes, 2 flash units at 1/32 between 1' and 2' from the bird. Camera was at 2.8m which is MFD and like you say 600mm. My previous camera could rarely nail focus with this lens like my D500 can. I used 3D with face detection OFF and somehow it "knows" to get the eye in focus. I also have the lens focus adjusted with the sigma dock.
I keep trying to get something like what you shot with my 7d2 100-400 or with that and a 1.4xiii. Can't seem to get the focus nailed though my camera can work the magic on other birds. I keep trying, it is a challenge and I don't have to go anywhere other than the front yard.
 
Since the image was captured in CO, I would lean against it being Anna's or Allen's. I would lean towards a juvi or female Broad-tailed, Rufous, Calliope (in that order) - it is difficult to say without having the bird in hand (to check its outer tail feathers) or without an image of a spread-out tail.

Check these links for more info about each candidate species:




Although the range maps for the Broad-tailed and Calliope indicate they are not candidates, I have captured images of both near Monument, CO.

Nice capture and thanks for sharing.
 
Maybe a young Rufous (this one has some rust coloration on its belly)? I believe their range is a little broader than the Anna's.
I looked at images online of juvenile rufous and it looks very close. I've certainly seen an adult male rufous around this summer, and he was very possessive of the feeder!
 
Since the image was captured in CO, I would lean against it being Anna's or Allen's. I would lean towards a juvi or female Broad-tailed, Rufous, Calliope (in that order) - it is difficult to say without having the bird in hand (to check its outer tail feathers) or without an image of a spread-out tail.

Check these links for more info about each candidate species:

https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Broad-tailed_Hummingbird/id

https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Rufous_Hummingbird/id

https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Calliope_Hummingbird/id

Although the range maps for the Broad-tailed and Calliope indicate they are not candidates, I have captured images of both near Monument, CO.
I am also near Monument, CO!

Not sue if this helps with identification but this is the same bird with a few tail feathers showing.

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Nice capture and thanks for sharing.

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Unfortunately, the descriptions and pictures of the females are all kind of lacking in the bird books. I've got lots of pictures like that from Colorado. Odds are it's a broad-tailed, but I don't really know.
 
Looks like a juvenile male of whatever species. This time of year they have black dots as their kerchief.
 
Unfortunately, the descriptions and pictures of the females are all kind of lacking in the bird books. I've got lots of pictures like that from Colorado. Odds are it's a broad-tailed, but I don't really know.
I'm beginning to realize that a definitive ID is unlikely!
 
Since the image was captured in CO, I would lean against it being Anna's or Allen's. I would lean towards a juvi or female Broad-tailed, Rufous, Calliope (in that order) - it is difficult to say without having the bird in hand (to check its outer tail feathers) or without an image of a spread-out tail.

Check these links for more info about each candidate species:

https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Broad-tailed_Hummingbird/id

https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Rufous_Hummingbird/id

https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Calliope_Hummingbird/id

Although the range maps for the Broad-tailed and Calliope indicate they are not candidates, I have captured images of both near Monument, CO.
I am also near Monument, CO!

Not sue if this helps with identification but this is the same bird with a few tail feathers showing.

e096da81fc9049a48863541ae9a105f5.jpg
Nice capture and thanks for sharing.

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All About Birds says "Among other female hummingbirds, Broad-tailed Hummingbirds have paler buffy sides, lack rufous in the rump, and have little rufous in the tail. Calliope Hummingbirdshave only a little rufous in the tail, lack rufous on the rump, and are smaller than Rufous Hummingbirds."

I do not see any rufous coloration on this bird's rump thus I am inclined to say it is less likely to a Rufous HB. It comes down to either a Broad-tailed HB or a Calliope (in either case, a female or immature male). If the HB was noticeably smaller than the other HBs, then it is a Calliope; if not, then it is a Broad-tailed. In some species of HB, the immature males can be identified by a black center wick extending into the white portion of the outer tail feathers - I do not remember if this applies to the Calliope and Broad-tailed HBs (I am traveling and cannot view my notes at home). This bird does not have that black wick so if that guideline applies, then this is a female and not an immature male.

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